New Superman for the "Twilight Age"
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Posted on: 2010-10-25 10:31 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
So like Smallville then.
But brooding.
Or is that Smallville?
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welcome to Failville, population YOU.| "We wanted to tell a story that's hip, sexy and moody," said DC Comics' co-publisher Dan DiDio. |
Superman is inherently un-hip, inherently un-sexy and as for moody, that's what the Fortress of Solitude is for.
If you want to tell a 'hip, sexy, moody' story find an appropriate character, or create one. Don't shoehorn in the least appropriate guy in your entire catalog.
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Brooding is NOT Superman... my god...
Brooding is Batman... Brooding is, a big chunk of Marvel anymore and alot, if not, most new "hero" types i've seen in a long time... but Brooding is NOT Superman...
This is the reason I hate smallville... the missed the point of Clark Kent and Superman... so badly it's as if they were shoting blindfoled.. on a horse... in a different county... while high on crack...
Superman is a boyscout. An optimist. He's nearly always got a positive outlook and tries his very best to see the good in everyone. And he is that way because of his upbringing. The Kents did an exellent job in rasing a very level headed, good hearted man who, happend to be the most powerful man in the world, and who in turned uses that power to help people, out of the shear kindness of his heart.
No tradigety in his past... no destiny he had to fullfill... just a good person with Superpowers trying to do the right thing. THAT'S Superman. An imbodyment of what most consider the best quailites of mankind, ironically enough housed in an alien man.
Smallville... with there angisty, brooding, destiny filled crap have... bah, no since in ranting. I've done that enough already... And now this... LOL. *shrug*
God only knows if this trend keeps up what the next movie will look like...
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I don't even like Superman but I gotta feel sorry for him. Jeez, I wouldn't wish being Twilightified on my worst enemy, let alone this alien orphan who could put me through a brick wall.
Epic fail.
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Epic fail.
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Y'know, your brooding cred pretty much flatlines as soon as you bust out the bright blue bodysuit.
I feel bad that "brooding" has almost become a dirty word these days. Mostly from cases like this, were it is shoe-horned in where it doesn't belong.
A brooding character only works if he has an overwhelming amount of tragedy to brood ABOUT. Too often characters seem to have jumped out of bad fanfiction; with writers wanting to have the brooding but without the emotional desolation it should stem from.
Now, unless they change something drastically in this new series, Clark has had a good upbringing, parents who love him, and abilities any human would kill for. He has nothing to brood about.
No, he may not "fit in" (though that should be what the Clark Kent persona is for), but that's cause for being socially awkward, not a brooding emo-twerp. Given his good position in life, Clark'll just come off as whiney and petty. Not brooding.
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| "We wanted to tell a story that's hip, sexy and moody," said DC Comics' co-publisher Dan DiDio |
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OK who ever green lit this needs to go and sit in the shame closet and think about what they did.
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in theory, Supes has some excellent 'brood fodder' to work with, i/e the destruction of his home planet.|
Originally Posted by Cowman
A brooding character only works if he has an overwhelming amount of tragedy to brood ABOUT. Too often characters seem to have jumped out of bad fanfiction; with writers wanting to have the brooding but without the emotional desolation it should stem from.
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alas for his potential angstyness he was subsequently raised in idyllic Midwestern splendor by a doting salt of the earth couple that instilled old-timey values.
If they want to do a total retcon and have his rocket land in Hell's Kitchen and have him raised by crack dealers, then okay.
But you can't graft 'sexy moodiness' onto the basic Superman myth without eliciting howls of laughter.
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But you know it's not going to be a bright blue don't you? It'll be some pseudo-leather 'midnight' blue and blood red. That'll make it ok for the emokids. |
Originally Posted by Cowman
Y'know, your brooding cred pretty much flatlines as soon as you bust out the bright blue bodysuit.
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A brooding character only works if he has an overwhelming amount of tragedy to brood ABOUT. Too often characters seem to have jumped out of bad fanfiction; with writers wanting to have the brooding but without the emotional desolation it should stem from. Now, unless they change something drastically in this new series, Clark has had a good upbringing, parents who love him, and abilities any human would kill for. He has nothing to brood about. |
"My planet is DEAD!!!!"
(Not defending btw... just saying.
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Isn't it the writer of the article who is making all the Twilight comparisons rather than someone from DC coming out and saying they're doing this because of Twilight? o.O
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You see, here's the thing, IMO of course. He does have "brood fodder". Destruction of his planet, being an orphen, and the only one of your kind left, thus the whole not fitting in angle, a constent struggle to keep a secret idenity from close friends, and of course the constent threat of supervillians and such. Even the golden age Superman lost his father at a reletively eairly age. |
Originally Posted by Nethergoat
in theory, Supes has some excellent 'brood fodder' to work with, i/e the destruction of his home planet.
alas for his potential angstyness he was subsequently raised in idyllic Midwestern splendor by a doting salt of the earth couple that instilled old-timey values. If they want to do a total retcon and have his rocket land in Hell's Kitchen and have him raised by crack dealers, then okay. But you can't graft 'sexy moodiness' onto the basic Superman myth without eliciting howls of laughter. |
He's got baggage sure, but "brood fodder" doesn't automaticly = emo punk. People can deal with there baggage and stay optimistic, idealistic, and no become dissilliusoned brooding people. Seems to me that mordern story tellers have forgotten this. Personal tradigity and hardship doesn't automaticaly = brooding emo. And Superman, has NEVER been like that. And he's dealth with alot of tragity on and off in the 70 or 80 plus years he's been around, and it hasn't broken or changed him.
It's a sign of the times. Look at ventiage heros. The eairly heros, with almost the solo exception being Batman, where basically normal, decent people who got superpowers and started being do gooders as a result. This whole, tradigity must spur on heroics is a more morden thing in comics as far as i can tell. (well, it's been becoming more and more prevelent in the last 20 years anyways.)
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emo supes FTW!
although my favorites will always be electric boogaloo red and blue supes.....
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okay i can justify this...it isnt superman, its ultraman's origin.|
Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
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he is all emo till he snaps kills luthor and creates the justice lords.
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There is no facepalm image with enough facepalmocity to define my reaction to this picture.
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BackAlleyBrawler: I can't facepalm this post hard enough.
ShoNuff: If sophisticated = bro-mantically emo-tastic, then I'm going to keep to my Shonen loving simplicity dammit.
I grew up with Superman. I learned to read at 2 with Superman kid books. I saw Chris Reeves bring the larger than life, hopeful force to life on the big screen and the heart of the character had made a lasting impression on me.
Over the years I've seen and enjoyed many incarnations of Supes, and though different, most of the time , they've stood as beacons you could count on. And now we and kids get stuck with the overly smallville-ised, 'sparkly' version to add to the mythos?
Gimme a freakin' break. DC trend spotters need to get slapped.
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Originally Posted by Scythus
Not slapped. Shot. Run over. Then shot again.
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BackAlleyBrawler: I can't facepalm this post hard enough.
ShoNuff: If sophisticated = bro-mantically emo-tastic, then I'm going to keep to my Shonen loving simplicity dammit.
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Is that... a red, LEATHER hoodie?|
Originally Posted by Mr. DJ
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Where would you even FIND something like that?
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Originally Posted by Rabid_Metroid
Is that... a red, LEATHER hoodie?
Where would you even FIND something like that? |
Yeah...no
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20 year old Supes
brooding trying to find his place in the world