Best aoe dmg

What build would give me the best aoe damage as a brute?

Elec/Shield/Mu ---> Lightning rod/Shield charge/Elec Fences/Elec Ball i believe. Personally i like dark better with Gloom/Dark Obliteration

SS/Fire with stacked rage is a strong competitor, but you need a ton of recharge to get Foot Stomp / Burn to recycle fast enough.

imo SS/fire/mu is the best FS->burn->fences->ball

Any builds out there for the SS/FA/Mu?

quick build, just for fire mob farming or S/L.

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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Super Strength
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Jab -- Amaze-Stun(A), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(48), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(48), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(48), Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(50)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(37), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(39), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(39)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(3), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(7), Dct'dW-Rchg(13)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 8: Knockout Blow -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(11), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Hectmb-Dam%(13)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResKB(A)
Level 12: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(17), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(17), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(37)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(19), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(19), RgnTis-Regen+(27), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34), Mrcl-Heal(36)
Level 20: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(21), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(40), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(50), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(50)
Level 22: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(23), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(23), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(27), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(43), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(46)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Rage -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 28: Burn -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), Oblit-%Dam(31)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Foot Stomp -- FrcFbk-Rechg%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Armgdn-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Fiery Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 38: Tough -- TtmC'tng-ResDam(A), TtmC'tng-ResDam/EndRdx(39), TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(40), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(40)
Level 41: Electrifying Fences -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dmg/Rng(42), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), Posi-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(45), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Ragnrk-Knock%(46)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run

The bad thing is Elec Fences stops KD, so as Foot Stomp doesn't knock em down, you become more squishy.

Most things don't live long enough for that to be an issue.

SS/Fire/Elec is definately up there though I think either Fire/SD/Elec or Elec/SD/Elec might surpass it in overall damage due to rage crashes.

If you herd enough groups together or use elec fence+ball on a close by group while stomping and burning the mobs surrounding you, the -kb won't effect foot stomp all that much.

That would apply that people actually take Hand Clap.

I have always wondered, when people say Foot Stomp is a very good AoE damage power, do they really just mean Rage + Foot Stomp, or is Foot Stomp alone a really good AoE power, outside of being able to hit more targets??

Elec/fire is the best for aoe.. SS/Fire = rage crash which is lame.

Just because the rage crash is lame does not mean that SS does less damage. I farm a hell of a lot faster on my ss/fire compared to others I have seen with elec/fire.

All I said was rage crash is lame.. and it is. If you wanna talk farming, well then with elec/fire you have no rage crash and a much easier time killing and is probably better overall for farming. I can't speak for other builds of elec/fire you have seen but I farm 54/53's and cap tickets in 5 min. I have honestly never seen one single SS/Fire build running a farm in AE on freedom. I did run with one friend tho and it was so horrible to watch him wait that 6 seconds before he could FS again.. and then wait.. and wait again.. one boring power that sends the mob flying away oh ya and then oh no.. rage crash.

For best AOE dmg I would say electric is better than SS in that is has more AOE powers to offer and is not just based around 1 power that is dependent on another (rage) to be effective and again rage is nothing but a pain to deal with.

So (elec/fire) easier build to deal with, same or better dmg results and much more interesting to play all around.

Oh and I should also mention that with elec/fire you can get the fury bar to 85 and it will stay there. I keep the mob tightly packed around me to maximize Burn,LR,TS,CS. I don't need to hold the mob down with electric fence to keep them close by. SS/Fire has to many things that you have to work around to make it useful to farm with while elec/fire is much easier and much more effcient right out of the box for farming.

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Originally Posted by HelinCarnate Just because the rage crash is lame does not mean that SS does less damage. I farm a hell of a lot faster on my ss/fire compared to others I have seen with elec/fire.

A SS/Fire shouldn't only be using Foot Stomp, sounds like you ran into a terrible one if that's what they were doing. I cycle through FS, Burn, and Fireball with very little time in between attacks.

I don't use Elec Fences to keep mobs around me, that's what Blazing Aura is for. Also, what's there to work around to play a SS/Fire? Just get perma Rage which is very easy to do.

I farm all the time on my SS/fire/mu brute in AE, he caps tickets in 3-2.5min or so. I've gotten down to almost capping before i get my 1st rage crash, if i stop after my 1st rage crash mostly ill end up with 1200 tickets from the mish.
And you really dont need any more AoE than just that one attack, with FS, burn, fences, and ball. I literally ALWAYS have AoE up.

Edit: also, everything fiery-enforcer just said

Yes some of the other builds here use that(elecFences) for some odd reason.

Are you saying that you don't have rage crash?

I think we can agree on the fact that we both like fire as the secondary however, I am not convinced that SS is the best primary to use with it for AOE becasue out of the box you are already relying on burn and then have to add an epic pool to enhance your lack of AOE. You don't need that with elec which makes it a better AOE dmg set as it has 3 usable AOE powers by default. And unless you are immune to rage crash then ya you have more to work around and you need to add more to your SS/fire to make it a viable AOE farmer and that is not the case with elec.

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Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer A SS/Fire shouldn't only be using Foot Stomp, sounds like you ran into a terrible one if that's what they were doing. I cycle through FS, Burn, and Fireball with very little time in between attacks. I don't use Elec Fences to keep mobs around me, that's what Blazing Aura is for. Also, what's there to work around to play a SS/Fire? Just get perma Rage which is very easy to do.

Ok ya you cap in 3 - 2.5min. Wow! that is so much faster than my ballpark 5min for elec/fire. I am building a SS/Fire brute now!

What AE arc is that please?


AHah I mentioned that 5min stat just so I could see who would be the first to lower that with their ss/fire is faster so ya it's better post.

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Originally Posted by ultrawatt I farm all the time on my SS/fire/mu brute in AE, he caps tickets in 3-2.5min or so. I've gotten down to almost capping before i get my 1st rage crash, if i stop after my 1st rage crash mostly ill end up with 1200 tickets from the mish. And you really dont need any more AoE than just that one attack, with FS, burn, fences, and ball. I literally ALWAYS have AoE up. Edit: also, everything fiery-enforcer just said

I see it more as working with, not around, the rage crash. There is just soo much stuff you can still do, specially on a /fire. 1st off in fire you have consume and your click heal, then you got insp to use. Not to mention vet powers are affected by the crash so you can still use those, if you have them. Infact sands of mu is still an AoE.
But i personally find build up powers to be a *****, like i wanna spend 1.17s for only 10s of dmg buff.

Personally, I don't even use Rage while soloing certain AE farms, inspirations are your friend. Having more AoE's doesn't mean they're better AoE's. I'd rather have FS than anything Elec offers. As of now SS/Fire is the best AoE Brute, numbers don't lie.

Elec Melee, Fire Aura, Pyre Mastery brute does fan-damn-tastic.

yay Hexadecimate!

I'm raising a SS/FA/Pyre brute for fun. I don't see the point in taking mu mastery when you have that firey embrace going, it just makes sense to pick up the pyre for that.

Burn is your friend.

I originally took mu on my elec because at the time burn had that fear effect. It doesn't anymore <THANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH> so there's no point in keeping an immob.