Informal Art Poll

Option 1 gets my vote.

The only caveat I'd add is if a costume piece gets changed substantially beyond just texture-sharpening (which sounds like it wouldn't generally be happening with this particular revamp), keep the legacy version as well.

Without examples to see what the updated pieces could look like, I'll go with option 2. Large menus don't bother me.

Even keeping in mind that menu work will not likely be done, I have to vote for Option Two. I just can't argue to take away the flexibility of the costume creator, one of the game's greatest strengths. And I don't really understand why anyone else would, either. The argument of "I have to look at it" sounds to me like just a bully trying to dictate how other people should play. By all means, update . . . . but let us who use the old options continue to use them, please.

while i sympathize with option 2, ers, i have to throw my lot in with option 1 as a realist. less database space and retaining parts that are just flat out dated...the argument against that persuades me.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

If we can't get new menus then option 1 as long as we are talking about only modified textures.

Option 1. Never get in the way of progress. If the newer versions of the old stuff looks the same but just has crisper, better texturing, then it's still not going away. It'll just look way better.

Kinda had an idea in my bed.


The menu work takes a fair bit o time, sure. But, once the menu work is done, how much more difficult would be to add more stuff to the menus? Like say you made a new bra texture, and keep the legacy one. Then addin more bras, like leather bra, chainmail bra, metal bra etc, how much more work would that be?

I say option 2 and redoing the menu to be better organized and user friendly. You guys will eventually have to do that anyways.

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Originally Posted by reiella Until I see something that states to the contrary, going to assume VK is right .

Option 2.

On a somewhat related note, regarding menu clutter... I hate having the Greek Alphabets in my chest details. I absolutely hate them. I wish that were an optional vet reward, I will never use them myself and I don't like to have to scroll backwards through the list just to avoid them.

I'd go with option 1.

Sure, change is scary, but when the new is cooler, sharper, shinier, and all out way more awesome than the old, I'd prefer the new.

"It's hard for you to be yourself, if you don't know who you really are."

Option 1 for me. I don't necessarily think new textures need to be dramatically bigger, but I think across the board the smallest ones need to be replaced first, then make your way up. The highest res textures should be replaced last. I think this methodology should be used, regardless if the art is related to faces, walls, or objects.

One thing I'd like to bring up, but my concern is based on an understanding which I am not sure is relevant, or accurate, but I'll throw it out there for others to consider and correct if possible. Basically, I think a lot of 32-bit games can only function in up to, but no more than, 2GB of usable space. If you vamp up too many textures, I believe that increases the amount of system RAM (not just graphical RAM) used. Given the game has had problems in the past of memory leaks, this problem could occur and bring systems to a halt sooner, when such an event occurs. Just throwing that out there. Hopefully someone with a better understanding might be able to work out the details. Thank you!

I vote Option 1.

Why?

Most of the graphics in game are close to 10 years old. Going back to the teaser trailers released in 2002 and 2003, many of the same costume pieces were being used. That means most of the graphics were made using standards of 2001-2002.

We're heading into 2011. While most of the game is being given an overhaul, there is little to no need to be using the same standards from 10 years ago. Why? Because computers/video cards from 10 years ago have become obsolete (or close to it.)

There is NOTHING (with the exception of programs made for fanatics that can not move on) on the current market being made specifically for hardware that is 10 years old. City of Heroes should be no exception.

David has said that no files will be removed. That all pre-existing items will be given a textural overhaul. That's what the game has needed for at least 5 years.

I know players that sit by and cry "More is better! More options is always better!" Well, it's not. If you are someone that uses any of the newer costume pieces, you can plainly see that 80% of the older files look horrible when used in conjunction. Why take a step backwards and make the newer pieces compatible with the older pieces? You're only making your characters look less than "super" when compared to the scenery (and upcoming scenery changes.)

Now ask yourself this: How many of you, in your wardrobe, only have and wear clothes that are 10+ years old? I'm sure the majority of people have moved onto new clothes rather than wear faded clothes from 10,000+ washings. Why should your in-game avatars be any different?

I'm guessing the majority of people wanting Option 2 are mainly doing so to hold onto a bit of nostalgia. While nostalgia is good, it should NEVER be a determining factor to stop progress, be it in real life or in a game.

No. It's been FAR too long to have to wait around to make our characters live up to the "super" moniker. There is no sense in heading into the future while wearing old, dingy and faded clothes from a decade ago.

Commander, your post fails to either speak to my reasons for voting Option 2 nor to influence me.

I and others have laid out specific examples of pieces that can lose adaptability with textural changes. It's not nostalgia.

You said one thing that sort of made me laugh (Not offensively, mind you, zero hard feelings between us at all ). Check out some of my costumes sometime. I use plenty of old and new and I don't believe they are incompatible. Not at all.

Still, this isn't anything that we need debate. Whatever happens, happens.
I do very much believe in never removing and only adding (Don't get me wrong though, some improvements absolutely can replace older items without it meaning anything was "removed"... It depends on how much it changes them).

The game is as old as it is, yes, but I don't believe that is a terrible thing at all. I also (This isn't just towards you) don't really feel this strong need to try and re-work all the graphics and textures in this game.

I love graphics pretty much as much as the next guy, but I also don't look back and see older graphics as completely outdated/bad.
Our sensibilities and vision haven't changed. They designed things to work with what we had and they still do work. I know, my graphics card is capable of more and other games have better graphics, but I definitely do not look at this game and think... yuck.
Just personal taste and opinions, of course. So, what can ya do? Hehe

Seems to me many of the supporters of Option 1 are crying, "Don't impede progress!" That's just bunk.

Fact: Option 2 will NOT prevent new stuff from being made. It still says that all the same stuff will be redone. It only states that the existing stuff will still remain on the lists so that anyone who wants to use them may. That's all.