Issue 19's Inherant Fitness: The concerns
I never knew about /cleartray, it would sure skip a lot of time having to right-click+[R] every single power after I respec, good to know.
As for whining, sorry again? I didn't meant to sound whiney, when I stated the question "What do you guys think?" I really meant "What do you guys think?" not "Here's my opinion, suck it!", starting a discussion is important because the devs should know what's on their players' minds and not have to get the flack of implementing a change which could annoy a percentage of the user-base, however minor, when they could tweak the design to suit everybody's tastes.
I misinterpreted the full scale of having Swift and Hurdle on by default and apologised, but what I don't apologise for is starting the discussion on what the player-base is worried about even though we don't have all the information. We happen to have a development studio who takes note of our feedback and feedback is what will make this game as good as it can be.
Plus, it's not like I totally hated the idea of Inherent Fitness, saying I hate Health and Stamina too would make me sound whiny and ridiculous.
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I saw zero whine in your thread. You detailed pretty extensively that you were not whining nor reacting wildly.
People who lash out at others as some did, generally are being quite sensitive themselves... but this is the way of some.
And I have an official certificate that says I am a very reasonable and observant intellectual.
I would scan it in, but the crayon doesn't show up well enough.
Your O.P. is a totally legitimate topic to ponder and discuss among those capable.
I applaud you and offer you an imaginary plate of equally imaginary cookies.
I've said my piece on people that rudely dismissed (and worse) such posts as yours and I don't suppose there's any point in saying anything more about it.
We all have bad days, so I'll not hold it against anyone else.
(Well, unless they want me to... nudge nudge, say no more...)
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I'm pleased to hear about this actually. I do not have a character to date who does NOT have Fitness. I work it into every single build becuase that boost on the character which is a constant running power which takes no endurance...who would pass that up? Swift and Hurdle...the only problems I have with them is debating which to take first.
Also, something to note here i think is getting over looked. Natural Origin is being misinterpreted. It does not mean you have no superpowers. Sure if that's the theme your going for then great, awesome. But it also represents aliens or other worldly critters whose powers are innate (Meaning born with it or natural to you) to them as a species. To quote the origin itself.
"You aren't 'super' at all; your amazing talents come from intense training and innate abilities. You might have been driven to physical excellence by some all-encompassing desire for perfection or revenge, or perhaps you are not human at all, and possess powers natural to your race. With your natural origin you have to rely on your cunning and skill. This origin will give you access to Throwing Knives. This attack has a very short range and deals minor Lethal damage, as well as inflicting additional Damage over Time."
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I'm pleased to hear about this actually. I do not have a character to date who does NOT have Fitness. I work it into every single build becuase that boost on the character which is a constant running power which takes no endurance...who would pass that up? Swift and Hurdle...the only problems I have with them is debating which to take first.
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I've got something that will help with this. I normally take a screen shot so I know where I had my powers originally, then after the respec, do /cleartray. This will put everything back into your Powers window where you can pull them down instead of trying to shuffle them around.
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I never knew about /cleartray, it would sure skip a lot of time having to right-click+[R] every single power after I respec, good to know.
As for whining, sorry again? I didn't meant to sound whiney, when I stated the question "What do you guys think?" I really meant "What do you guys think?" not "Here's my opinion, suck it!", starting a discussion is important because the devs should know what's on their players' minds and not have to get the flack of implementing a change which could annoy a percentage of the user-base, however minor, when they could tweak the design to suit everybody's tastes. I misinterpreted the full scale of having Swift and Hurdle on by default and apologised, but what I don't apologise for is starting the discussion on what the player-base is worried about even though we don't have all the information. We happen to have a development studio who takes note of our feedback and feedback is what will make this game as good as it can be. Plus, it's not like I totally hated the idea of Inherent Fitness, saying I hate Health and Stamina too would make me sound whiny and ridiculous. |
No worries, you're not the problem here.
This is the only concern that I have. It would be AWESOME if they'd re-work the respec process so that your power trays don't end up full of every single temp power or vet inherent you have and your actual powers are all jumbled up or pushed off the trays. I can really deal with the rest of the respec process just fine, but what it does to the power trays is awful >.<
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I think that would be rather awesome.
I do like the freedom this gives me to pick more powers, either from power pools, or even the EPP/PPP's.
I'm satisfied by these pending changes, but dismayed by the blunt insensitivity in the majority of replies here. If you read between the lines (empathize), the OP seems concerned that his ability to CHOOSE is being traded away for this improvement. I won't argue that this is an improvement-- it is. But I will ALWAYS and unapologetically consider the plight of one who feels his freedom to choose is being negatively impacted.
I empathize. Nearly all of my characters have benefited, not just mechanically but THEMATICALLY, from the Fitness Power Pool. However, I DO have a couple of Natural Origin "everyday men turned heroes", for whom the first two powers in the Fitness Power Pool would have marred their theme conceptually. Some of you, who aren't conceptual/thematic thinkers and creators, may not understand this sentiment. All I can say is that I'm glad I was able to create those characters before a change like this made such characters impossible to create.
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I'm satisfied by these pending changes, but dismayed by the blunt insensitivity in the majority of replies here. If you read between the lines (empathize), the OP seems concerned that his ability to CHOOSE is being traded away for this improvement. I won't argue that this is an improvement-- it is. But I will ALWAYS and unapologetically side with the underdog who feels his freedom to choose is being negatively impacted.
I empathize. Nearly all of my characters have benefited, not just mechanically but THEMATICALLY, from the Fitness Power Pool. However, I DO have a couple of Natural Origin "everyday men turned heroes", for whom the first two powers in the Fitness Power Pool would have marred their theme conceptually. Some of you, who aren't conceptual/thematic thinkers and creators, may not understand this sentiment. All I can say is that I'm glad I was able to create those characters before a change like this made such characters impossible to create. |
For pointing out the completely obvious.
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*Sigh*
I know there is just no point in bothering but...
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I've found the jump height issue should be resolvable by just giving space a half tap instead of a full tap, and you gain the advantage of being able to fall a bit longer without taking damage.
Soo . . . in summary:
OP has a concern.
Certain group of players think he's stupid and whiny for having that concern.
Another group doesn't share that concern but have another concern.
A third group thinks that the first group were terribly rude.
*Math*
Repeat.
That about sums it up.
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Soo . . . in summary:
OP has a concern. Certain group of players think he's stupid and whiny for having that concern. Another group doesn't share that concern but have another concern. A third group thinks that the first group were terribly rude. *Math* Repeat. That about sums it up. |
*snickers*
I've found the jump height issue should be resolvable by just giving space a half tap instead of a full tap, and you gain the advantage of being able to fall a bit longer without taking damage.
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Not a huge deal for those of us that care. It is fun for the game to represent what you want, however there are indeed ways to force it to instead!
(Good suggestion/post. I hadn't thought to offer it for people who may not have thought of it)
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Soo . . . in summary:
OP has a concern. Certain group of players think he's stupid and whiny for having that concern. Another group doesn't share that concern but have another concern. A third group thinks that the first group were terribly rude. *Math* Repeat. That about sums it up. |
You also forgot people attempting to make witty commentary on said thread.
That people are going out of their way as much as possible to find something to whine about.
You cannot be wholly serious that swift makes your character run too fast?