AE Exp has to go!!


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I can solve everyone's problem simply by saying this..... Its a game, a game that each person pays 15 bucks a month for.
You'd think people would come to this realization any day now...

I have yet to see that day.


 

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Ok guys not to long ago I ran into an AE lvl 50 in PI. He knows nothing about the game. Has NO CLUE how to get anywhere. Gets the entire team killed repeatedly. THIS is what AE is producing and yes in greater numbers than you might think. Please for the love of Pete take EXP away from AE all together. Then you will find out who\ss really using AE for story telling and who isnt. Maybe increase ticket count or something. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
The point here is, people pay $15.00 per month to play this game, and believe it or not there are some people that do not care to go through the regular root, and learn the game the way it was setup to do. They will find someone or pay someone to pl them to 50 because they want to be a level 50 just like some of their friends that showed them the game or for whatever reason they have...

AE is one way to pl a toon, there are other ways as well, noobs getting pl'd is not an AE exclusive thing. If you invite someone you do not know then sorry to say, you get what you get. As a practice, when inviting a random to my team I check the toons info and see what I am getting, first thing I look for is vet status, if the toon is 50 and no vet badges then I keep and eye on them... if the tank I a mgetting has the healing pool I will ask them "what is up with that?" and so fourth. I have had 39 month vets who, like your AE Babies have no clue as well. It's something you have to deal with when inviting randoms to your team.

Like people have said, you can kick, ignore, and even give them a 1 star global rating to remind yourself this person is not someone you want to team up with using any toon.

When you invite a random it's a crap shoot, you hope the person has a clue and they can help the team be successful in what they are trying to, and better yet, be someone you might want to invite to your global friends list... then there is the other side, when you get the people that have no clue and try their hardest to prove to this to you... and end up doing just that...


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Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post
That said, I'd like to see tickets get nerfed a bit more for recipe rolls (not salvage its nerfed enough there already). Its kind of silly that the easiest way to make money is to kill a bunch of virtual^2 stuff and then take bronze rolls (Gold rolls should be removed outright.....TF need to have some value still).
I don’t know anyone that uses tickets for silver or gold, just rare salvage and bronze rolls.

I haven’t done a comparison between standard mission recipe drops vs. AE bronze ticket rolls. Farming tickets for bronze rolls seems to yield about the same amount of standard recipes as running Unai’s council map. However, that is just my personal impression.

The AE is a wonderful alternative leveling option. I do wish the search engine was better. However, the creativity of many of these missions combined with easy access to inspirations, lack of travel, hospital on site, and the gambling high of rolling tickets have renewed my interest in many of my under 30 characters and even inspired me to roll quite a few new ones.


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...plus I know people who got 50 in less than 12 hours. Thats just insane.
Fix'd that for you! I am in no way implying I was or was not one of them! <_< >_>


 

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I use Player Notes with a ranking system to avoid these problems.

1-star: Noobtard
2-star: Just met them, unsure of competency
3-star: Neutral friend
4-star: Good friend with reputation
5-star: Veteran player with dependable contributions

That being said, I always show player notes. PI is full of one-star wonders on my computer.


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This entire post should receive some kind of award for being both hysterical and fantastic.
Well done.
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Ok it seems I have the attention of a few note worthy individuals. Yes we have all ran into that special someone who gets the team killed. We take a quick look and see "oh? this is an AE baby"? All im trying to get at is that I have SEEN with my own eyes what AE can do to newer players.
these kinds of players existed long before MA was even a glimmmer in Positron's eye.

Your "solution" would do nothing but render MA persona non grata for the vast majority of the playerbase.


Good day, sir.


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...plus I know people who got 50 in less than two hours. Thats just insane.
I extra fix'd that for j00. Carry on.


 

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Fix'd that for you! I am in no way implying I was or was not one of them! <_< >_>

Less than one hour.


 

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Half an hour?


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I did suggest somewhere previously the AE Exp should be a bit like The Tutorial Exp, limited to so many levels (like 5) without playing any standard content, so for say doing a contact mission outside the AE you get 1 level of AE exp available again.

Earn 3 levels in ae and you have 2 'training' levels left (of 5), run a contact/standard mission and you would then have 3 'training' levels left to use.

This way it doesn't (fully) nerf exp, it does slow ae levelers down and so on...


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I did suggest somewhere previously the AE Exp should be a bit like The Tutorial Exp, limited to so many levels (like 5) without playing any standard content, so for say doing a contact mission outside the AE you get 1 level of AE exp available again.

Earn 3 levels in ae and you have 2 'training' levels left (of 5), run a contact/standard mission and you would then have 3 'training' levels left to use.

This way it doesn't (fully) nerf exp, it does slow ae levelers down and so on...
the problem with that is... the devs marketed that you can go from 1-50 in the AE. not have to do regular content to continue leveling in AE. people just need to stop the whining about AE.


 

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Ok guys not to long ago I ran into an AE lvl 50 in PI. He knows nothing about the game. Has NO CLUE how to get anywhere. Gets the entire team killed repeatedly. THIS is what AE is producing and yes in greater numbers than you might think. Please for the love of Pete take EXP away from AE all together. Then you will find out who\ss really using AE for story telling and who isnt. Maybe increase ticket count or something. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Most players aren't on the forums. Maybe run through the streets of Atlas caps-locking in broadcast for better results?


 

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Ok guys not to long ago I ran into an AE lvl 50 in PI. He knows nothing about the game. Has NO CLUE how to get anywhere. Gets the entire team killed repeatedly. THIS is what AE is producing and yes in greater numbers than you might think. Please for the love of Pete take EXP away from AE all together. Then you will find out who\ss really using AE for story telling and who isnt. Maybe increase ticket count or something. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

NO.

People will PL regardless of where.

People who PL to the exclusion of all else will suck at the game.

Screwing over legitimate users simply because some ********* can't be bothered to explore the world is a stupid, childish response.

Douchebags who can't be bothered to explore the world ARE NOT THE DEVS' PROBLEM!

Get over it. Next time pick a better team!



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All im trying to get at is that I have SEEN with my own eyes what AE can do to newer players.
No. AE did NOTHING.

What you SAW was what a lazy, stupid player can do to a team.

Nothing more.

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I have heard hundreds of complaints thus far from my fellow players who are just plain sick and tired of running into these new AE 50s and getting smashed for it.
Next time pick a better team.

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By the way, it may seem whiney or moany or whatever, but its just not me who watches their team mates get trashed repeatedly do to a new AE pwrlvd 50 or there abouts. So just realize I am not alone in this guys and gals I'm "not" alone.
So you're not alone. BFD. People who think they can get away with not paying taxes aren't alone. Doesn't mean they're any less wrong.

People who believe that the moon landing was filmed on a soundstage aren't alone. But they're wrong.

There are people out there who think the Holocaust never happened. STILL WRONG!

There are people out there who think all non-muslims need to be killed and/or converted "by sword" (and not necessarily in that order). You gonna tell me they're right?

What you're attempting to foist off on us is simply an argumentum ad populum.



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Originally Posted by Coolio View Post
I did suggest somewhere previously the AE Exp should be a bit like The Tutorial Exp, limited to so many levels (like 5) without playing any standard content, so for say doing a contact mission outside the AE you get 1 level of AE exp available again.

Earn 3 levels in ae and you have 2 'training' levels left (of 5), run a contact/standard mission and you would then have 3 'training' levels left to use.

This way it doesn't (fully) nerf exp, it does slow ae levelers down and so on...
AE was advertised as a fully viable, alternative system in which players can level up their characters.

I am willing to bet any "solution" that will be suggested in this thread has been discussed so many times in so many different threads by so many different people that eventually, the "counter-solution" to all of them will be the following:

AE was advertised as a fully viable, alternative system in which players can level up their characters from 1 to 50. Placing reward hard-limits, or drastically reducing the XP compared to normal content, or replacing experience points with some other reward, or simply removing experience points from AE would put developers of the game at a vulnerable position against people who paid for the City of Heroes: Architect Edition, and almost everyone else because they were promised something that is not being offered. Not only that, but as of now, only a small number of people use AE (compared to the targeted audience of the system). Reducing XP gain or placing hard-caps on it would be one of the last 3 nails in AE's coffin. The other 2 would be diminishing the ticket rewards, and adding level restrictions.


Every time you try to come up with a solution to AE, please read the above paragraph, twice, VERY LOUDLY. If you sound dumb and start making no sense, it's because your solution will not work. End of story.

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No. AE did NOTHING.

What you SAW was what a lazy, stupid player can do to a team.
Thank you!


 

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Ok it seems I have the attention of a few note worthy individuals. Yes we have all ran into that special someone who gets the team killed. We take a quick look and see "oh? this is an AE baby"? All im trying to get at is that I have SEEN with my own eyes what AE can do to newer players.

I have heard hundreds of complaints thus far from my fellow players who are just plain sick and tired of running into these new AE 50s and getting smashed for it. By the way, it may seem whiney or moany or whatever, but its just not me who watches their team mates get trashed repeatedly do to a new AE pwrlvd 50 or there abouts. So just realize I am not alone in this guys and gals I'm "not" alone.

I wont bother posting any more I have said what I have had to say. Good day.
I think you're in denial. You're team should have been good enough to not let one idiot ruin it. That or use the kick button.


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dUmb, etc.
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Fix'd that for you! I am in no way implying I was or was not one of them! <_< >_>

12 hours is very achievable outside of AE or "exploits"


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dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit

 

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Ok guys not to long ago I ran into an AE lvl 50 in PI....
Good thing I brought my [Spandex-safe Fire Retardant Spray].

OP: How did you know this person was powerleveled in AE and not in the many other places popular for powerleveling -- PI itself being one? Did you check his badges?


 

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I love having the option of experiencing new content that will level me rather than going over the same arcs/paper missions ad nauseam. If some want to farm, good for them. Not really my thing all the time (I do like to finish a level before I log and I abhor paper missions with a passion, same with timed missions) but now and then I indulge.


 

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I love having the option of experiencing new content that will level me rather than going over the same arcs/paper missions ad nauseam. If some want to farm, good for them. Not really my thing all the time (I do like to finish a level before I log and I abhor paper missions with a passion, same with timed missions) but now and then I indulge.
Why are you posting here Psychoti? Don't you have some new rude tells to be digging out of some random idiot in-game?

GET BACK TO WORK! The Rude Tells thread needs some sprucing up!



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Why are you posting here Psychoti? Don't you have some new rude tells to be digging out of some random idiot in-game?

GET BACK TO WORK! The Rude Tells thread needs some sprucing up!

I too would like to read some more rude tells... /em waiting


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aaaaaahahahaha yes!


 

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Originally Posted by Enyalios View Post

That said, I'd like to see tickets get nerfed a bit more for recipe rolls (not salvage its nerfed enough there already). Its kind of silly that the easiest way to make money is to kill a bunch of virtual^2 stuff and then take bronze rolls (Gold rolls should be removed outright.....TF need to have some value still).
No.


 

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Ok guys not to long ago I ran into an AE lvl 50 in PI. He knows nothing about the game. Has NO CLUE how to get anywhere. Gets the entire team killed repeatedly. THIS is what AE is producing and yes in greater numbers than you might think. Please for the love of Pete take EXP away from AE all together. Then you will find out who\ss really using AE for story telling and who isnt. Maybe increase ticket count or something. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
I have an idea, why dont you quit the game. Its alot easier then changing the reward meters for the AE, and then as a community were going to be saved from what ever other idiocy you have planned to spam about in the future.