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Arcanaville,
Posted on: 2010-06-08 09:26 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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My mind must be in the gutter because every time I see 'MF' in this thread it reminds me of something totally different. Think like Samuel L. Jackson and you'll see...|
Originally Posted by SwellGuy
I don't think you can delete the MF buffs.
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It made re-reading the thread much more entertaining.
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And don't forget that if you do nothing, then a THIRD group of people simply complain that you guys don't listen to us.
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Originally Posted by Castle
This is a situation I cannot win with. I removed the prompt; people complained until I was told to put it back. Now it's back, a completely different set of people get to complain.
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I see what you did there...
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
This is a test, right? I mean, if he stops listening to the players and does whatever he thinks he's right, there's someone already waiting to complain that he listened to you, right?
I'm on to this game. This why I keep telling Castle that what he should do is take his priorities from the lead designer, allocate resources and schedule time with the producers, listen to feedback from the players, discuss the plan with the powers team, and then just do whatever I say. Its simple, and its consistent. |
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You're the second person today to tell me that. |
Originally Posted by Clouded
My mind must be in the gutter because every time I see 'MF' in this thread it reminds me of something totally different. Think like Samuel L. Jackson and you'll see...
It made re-reading the thread much more entertaining. |
(Other is in an email not this thread.)
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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I don't think Castle was supposed to mention the UI team. You're not really cleared for that information. In fact, I know people in production, in QA, in programming, in design - heck, I probably know people you've never heard of whose primary job only involves communicating with other people you've never heard of. But not only have I never talked to someone who would admit they were on the UI team, I've only heard the UI team referred to as "them" as in "its up to them" or "we'll need to pass this on to them" or "I wouldn't stick your hand in the cage too close to them." I haven't even ever had a dev say "you'll have to take it up with them" probably because NCSoft's workplace liability insurance only covers full time employees. |
Originally Posted by Quinch
There's an "UI team"?
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I once asked a red name if it was possible to change the design of a UI panel. All I was told was "it was them." We then spent the next several PMs trying to figure out if we could change the entire game to match the panel instead. Drugging Positron and making him give orders while unconscious sort of like Weekend at Bernies came up as a legitimate possibility. I think it has something to do with being at the crossroads between art and programming. Its an extremely turbulent interface that attracts dark and powerful forces.
I tend to think of them as a cross between Wolverine and Jabba the Hut. They are the best at what they do but what they do isn't always pretty. And if I told you half the things I've heard about them, you'd probably short circuit.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
I tend to think of them as a cross between Wolverine and Jabba the Hut.
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Sam, it was a joke, referring to the Mystic Fortune prompt debate that (re)started this thread.|
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
There was never a prompt. The system used to tell me "this post already exists" and it didn't do that now. I highly doubt it's been removed, too, so I wonder why it didn't trigger.
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I hate this MF buff! |
Originally Posted by Clouded
My mind must be in the gutter because every time I see 'MF' in this thread it reminds me of something totally different. Think like Samuel L. Jackson and you'll see...
It made re-reading the thread much more entertaining. |
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So, let me get this straight. The compromise is: "DO IT MY WAY!"? In what way is this compromise? Would you accept it if I said "Until there is an option to auto accept/decline, removing the prompt is the compromise."? Yeah, sounds different now, doesn't it?|
Originally Posted by Electric-Knight
Until there is an option to auto accept/decline, the prompt is the compromise.
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The prompt (along with the new "recast" rooting animation bug) IS the problem. How can it be the compromise?
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The prompt is the compromise because some people want the buff and some people don't. With out a prompt, one group wouldn't be getting what they want. |
Originally Posted by NekoNeko
So, let me get this straight. The compromise is: "DO IT MY WAY!"? In what way is this compromise? Would you accept it if I said "Until there is an option to auto accept/decline, removing the prompt is the compromise."? Yeah, sounds different now, doesn't it?
The prompt (along with the new "recast" rooting animation bug) IS the problem. How can it be the compromise? |
I don't like the buff OR the prompt. It's not just people who want the buff that are bothered by the prompt, you know.
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... I thought you WERE the Powers that Be...|
Originally Posted by Castle
Weren't you a Wizard in EQ? I remember you from Graffe's Wizards forums, in any case.
People saying, "This choice should be something in the options menu" I neither agree nor disagree on this. That's for the UI team to decide, not me. In any case, that particular task is not one that I can undertake, so telling me doesn't really help beyond my passing it along to the powers that be. |
actually, in all seriousness, given that I don't want the entire dev team to plan revenge on me, is there any way that we can talk to somebody on the UI team directly?
Or, maybe I should phrase it this way:
Is there a better way for us to tell the UI team what changes would be appreciated within the structure of the game.
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The prompt is a compromise between the people who want (or don't mind the buff) and those who don't want it. It's a matter of giving choices.|
Originally Posted by NekoNeko
So, let me get this straight. The compromise is: "DO IT MY WAY!"? In what way is this compromise? Would you accept it if I said "Until there is an option to auto accept/decline, removing the prompt is the compromise."? Yeah, sounds different now, doesn't it?
The prompt (along with the new "recast" rooting animation bug) IS the problem. How can it be the compromise? |
The prompt is also status quo.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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In other Other words, where's the UI Redname so that we can pelt them with gifts and/or sharp spiky things to get some items fixed round these here parts?
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Be well, people of CoH.
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The prompt was taken out as a quick fix to stop multiple mystic fortunes on one person or similar exploit.|
Originally Posted by je_saist
enough players whined about the auto-buff that the devs put the prompt back in.
Rumor has it that Pohsyb is working on a mechanism to add "ask / auto-accept / decline" to the options system. |
At the time, Castle said he couldnt fix it without removing the prompt.
When they got a fix that worked with leaving the prompt in, they restored the prompt thats meant to be there. Becasue that how it was designed.
No conspiracy about whining people getting thier way is needed. Though it now looks liek castle is admiting it did remove it for the complaining people *shocked face*
Hopfeully the option for always/prompt/never does come into being. I prefered MF without the prompt.
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Castle is The Powers That Be for powers that be. Castle is not The Powers That Be for powers that not be, or The Powers That Be for that which be not powers, or The Powers That Be for The Powers That Be for that which be or not be powers.
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Originally Posted by je_saist
... I thought you WERE the Powers that Be...
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Originally Posted by Clebstein
The prompt is the compromise because some people want the buff and some people don't. With out a prompt, one group wouldn't be getting what they want.
I don't like the buff OR the prompt. It's not just people who want the buff that are bothered by the prompt, you know. |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
The prompt is a compromise between the people who want (or don't mind the buff) and those who don't want it. It's a matter of giving choices.
The prompt is also status quo. |
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Originally Posted by arcanaville
castle is the powers that be for powers that be. Castle is not the powers that be for powers that not be, or the powers that be for that which be not powers, or the powers that be for the powers that be for that which be or not be powers.
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Be well, people of CoH.
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I just shed a tear.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Castle is The Powers That Be for powers that be. Castle is not The Powers That Be for powers that not be, or The Powers That Be for that which be not powers, or The Powers That Be for The Powers That Be for that which be or not be powers.
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I don't know if this has been asked before, but I'm going to ask anyways.
How come people didn't want the MF buff?
Clearly they've HAD it with the MF buffs in their MF instances.
Seriously though, it's the MF speed boost in one (or more, I forget) of the buffs, some people seem to have issues with controlling the character afterward. It's another form of Ye Olde Speed Boost debate.
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Aw. The players were ready with their torches & pitchforks to "storm the Castle". Please let the UI team know that the prompt is a right pain in the butt to players, okay, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Castle
That's for the UI team to decide, not me. In any case, that particular task is not one that I can undertake, so telling me doesn't really help beyond my passing it along to the powers that be.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
My mind must be in the gutter because every time I see 'MF' in this thread it reminds me of something totally different. Think like Samuel L. Jackson and you'll see...
It made re-reading the thread much more entertaining. |
Same here.
"I'm sick and tired of these MF buffs on this MF mission!!"
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Castle is The Powers That Be for powers that be. Castle is not The Powers That Be for powers that not be, or The Powers That Be for that which be not powers, or The Powers That Be for The Powers That Be for that which be or not be powers.
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You're on a roll tonight!
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I'm on to this game.
This why I keep telling Castle that what he should do is take his priorities from the lead designer, allocate resources and schedule time with the producers, listen to feedback from the players, discuss the plan with the powers team, and then just do whatever I say. Its simple, and its consistent.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.