Super Boost: Excuse for bad manners?

I gotta say that I play my toons as if I'm not gonna ever get a heal or a buff. It doesn't matter what AT I'm playing. And... if I am the one with the buffs, I try to buff as best as I can to avoid anyone asking me to be buff'd. So if i'm on a team (even with my stone tank) and a kin isn't SB'n me.... oh well.

To the same point. If I was on a team with anyone that was requestion a please and thank you for anything, they'd get the boot OR I'd take my ball and go home. If you think your Speed Boost is a gift that you should be thanked for... well you can find another team. One that spends it's time typing thank you instead of kicking ***. IMO.

I assume you ask for heals as you need them and then thank the healer each time they heal you. You also ask for the tank to taunt each mob and thank them afterwards.

As a member of a team you are expected to support that team fully, that means you speed boost. If for some reason you don't SB for character purposes then thats a different story.

I haven't played my Kin troller for a while now, but she was my first 50, and most of that was solo.

However, I did team enough to know I hated Speed Boosting bellyachers every 5 seconds. If I can solo 40 levels, I can contribute plenty to any team.

So I respec'd out of it, and put "I don't have Speed Boost" in my search field. Sorted.

You could add the stun proc to it. That would pretty much have people stop asking

I say if your on Freedom server, by all means DO NOT give them SB. This way I can get more teams fighting over me.

Speed Boost last 2 minutes. A mission can last 30 minutes, maybe 40. Forget about a Task Force. You do the math on saying thank you every 2 minutes.

There is a point of being polite, but another having it be an obsession.

I feel Speed Boosting is like getting a rep. You have players that only SB tanks. You have players that sort of SB some players sometimes. You have players that SB at the beginning of a mission and nothing else.

Then you have the player that SB everyone and ID as well. That's me.
Nutshell I get all AT's asking me to group when I log in. I get my Merits for the day when I log in my kin or my AE tickets. No other AT beyond a Tank / Brute might have that ability. Every AT should be as wanted or needed as a Kin is. Sadly it is not. But with every great AT comes greater responsibility.

I mean really if someone drops in front of you and then resses back up its your job to hit them with ID to remove the stun. How many times have you died because you got re-killed while stunned.

It is all part of the game and part of the class. If it is that annoying then I would suggest simply removing SB from your powers and post it in your notes for LFT. I DO NOT HAVE SPEED BOOST.

If you missed a SB on someone, they shouldn't complain. If they do then I think everyone would agree that you forget them yet again on the next round of SBing. If I get too involved in fighting sometimes you might have to give me a reminder to use SB. It happens. But I will not take someone asking me for SB because they are at the bottom of the team list and I just didnt get to them fast enough.

End result you have to find a reasonable compromise. I think yours is too extreme. Usually at the end of a mish you will get people say Hey thanks for the buffs that was great.. And others will echo the same sentiments.

I have several thoughts on this topic. And I've played several Kins/ and /Kins of all sorts.

1) Yes, it can be annoying to be hounded for a buff, especially if the buff in question is still active. And it does happen.
2) No, nothing wrong with politeness.
3) But, to expect a please and thank you for each and every application is very out of line and seems, passive-aggressive to the point of creepy to me.. I'd not want to team with you.

But, all that being said, I find it interesting that everyone, people who have never played a kin, people who've played a few, and people who've played a lot all seem to agree that there is only one correct way to play a kin, regardless of situation, team make-up, or the other power set in question. And yet they don't agree on what that one and only one way is. And people get grumpy is you fail to meet the expectation of their opinion of the right way.

Most other powersets, the player gets some leeway to evaluate situations as the arise in light of the team, their power choices and slotting, and to make the best choices, but kins don't usually get that leeway.

I mean, I can't recall ever hearing someone tell a blaster, "I can't believe you were too busy to use the single target attack on the mob attacking me because you were dropping an AOE elsewhere?!?"

They way I look at it is, I'll evaluate and choose the best course of action for the team, as best I can, in any situation, with any AT or powerset I play. I expect my team to be doing the same. And frankly, if I'm busy doing my job, I can't have been paying to close attention to what any single teammate was doing every moment of the way, so I'll trust you were doing your job.

However, I may notice if a tank avoids melee. Or if someone with SB never uses it (or refuses to use it without a please/thank you). Or is the blaster never attacks, etc. I may also notice in the Kin only SBs and nothing else. If the tank only uses taunt and the aura and never an attack. If the emp only uses heals and never a fort or an attack.

If everyone is busy doing their best to use all the tools at their disposal, and in response to the situation, to help the team, I'm good. A kin expecting to be begged for SB at every application tho, is like an emp spamming Heal Aura and doing nothing else while we're rolling and nobodys getting injured. IE, not really helping near as well as they could if they just tried.

Rant over.

One of a kin's jobs is to sb people who want it. One of a tanks jobs is to manage aggro. One of a scrapper's jobs is to do dmg to enemy mobs. One of a blaster's jobs is to die in a blaze of AoE-spam glory.


In all such cases, I neither see the need to offer nor the need to demand thanks for people doing their jobs.

When playing EI (Kin/Rad Defender) I usually try to keep the team buffed but I usually just say, "if you need SB/ID please say so."

And when there is a kin/* or */kin on the team, if I'm on a toon that is an end. hog...yeah I'll definitely say, "sb please". In one sense I hate doing that every time SB runs out (because I know how it feels/looks like if I keep begging for SB) but on the other hand...if my toon is running out of endurance because either end. drains or just plain ol' attacking too much....well I don't like standing around doing nothing.


And in general terms, if I'm on a team and there is a FF or Sonic or Thermal or any other buffer toon and they aren't buffing anyone...yeah...I usually have an issue with that. Like the one person said in the OP's team...if you have a group/ally buff and you're not using it....why did you get it?

My 2 influence.

When I play with my Kin defender I usually try to keep everyone with SB, except those I know that dont want it (and even then sometimes, I am human after all).

I am also monitoring endurance output of everyone, to check those most in need.

And I am always dishing the others buffs as soon as possible/needed by the situation.

I dont want a reward or a thank you message for doing what I proposed myself to do when I decided creating a Defender.

what really needs to be done is to make sb a aoe buff instead of individual. its the cause of a lot of problems in the game having to manually buff each team member with speed boost every couple of minutes especially since its one of the most sought after buffs.