Super Boost: Excuse for bad manners?


Adeon Hawkwood

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by bromley View Post
Please don't tell that guy he is angry when his post doesn't read as angry. I'm assuming you are just creating a Straw Man.
What the heck are you talking about? If he's not angry at all these people then I don't know what he has to do to show it. Don't comment on my conversation with someone else if you have nothing to add to it. That's troll behavior...

Also, he took something I said and made it seem like I was trying to contradict him when I wasn't even talking to him. He keeps getting angry because people don't agree with him. Did you even read the posts or did you just want to add to your post counts?


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
OK who pissed in your Cheerios? Stop getting so angry when people disagree with you. I wasn't even talking about anything that you were talking about.
How about you point out the language that implies that I was angry. I was incredulous that you had the gall to say you survived a team wipe with a Troller, and that you were the sole contributing factor to that survival, besides the SB.

Btw this is angry language.
Quote:
OK who pissed in your Cheerios?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
I wasn't even talking about anything that you were talking about.
My stand from the beginning is that SB is not the power that people make it out to be. You then contributed with anecdotal evidence, to someone else with my same viewpoint, that it was a great power and why. As soon as you did so, you opened yourself up to my rebuttal of your statement. That’s how open conversations, such as forums work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
Did you ever stop to think that a troller could be anything other than a Kin?
Actually yes, that's why I said this
Quote:
, what I believe was a Kin Troller,
because you were not clear with this statement,
Quote:
Me and a troller were the only ones alive oddly enough
but this discussion is about the Kin, so decided to point out what a Kin could add to your survival.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
All I said was if I wouldn't have been able to attack as fast and kept my endurance as well we would have team wiped.
This is what you said.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
I beg to differ on this one. I was playing a blaster the other night and was about to team wipe. If I hadn't had SB and been able to attack as fast as I could we would have had a team wipe. Me and a troller were the only ones alive oddly enough, but I cleaned up the mess real fast thanks to SB. If I didn't have it on I would have wiped really fast!
Where is endurance mentioned in this statement? This on the other hand
Quote:
If I hadn't had SB and been able to attack as fast as I could
implies that the reason you survived was because of your cycle time. Especially being most of this discussion has been about the speed reduction aspect, not the endurance aspect of SB.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
The troller still alive was NOT the Kin troller. The Kin troller got wiped pretty fast because some idiot ran into at least 3 or 4 mobs at once, and so yes the only contributing factor on my Blaster from the Kin was the SB. I don't know how you assumed that the one still alive was a Kin from what I said...

The PLANT troller and I were even separated and firing off as many powers as we could. The holds kept the troller alive long enough for me to finish my group of enemies and help them finish theirs off. Maybe you should get your facts right before you try to argue a point that's not being made next time.
This actually backs up my claim that the Troller was a contributing factor to your survival. Now I could list what a 20+ Plant Troller could bring to the table, but I wont. Anyone who has ran with or has run one, knows what this primary can bring.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
Again I say: If I had not had SB on I would have died because I couldn't have attacked as quickly or as efficiently thanks to the extra endurance I had. My comment was about WarronPeace comment that said SB didn't have much to do with survival. Obviously it does or my team would have team wiped in this instance. Why don't you go back and read my other comment... Maybe it will click in your head then!!
And this again is anecdotal evidence. You "believe" that SB was what kept you from dying. You can go on believing that, it's your right. On the other hand you have contributed nothing in your statements besides belief, so my opinion has not changed. I will go on in my "belief" that you survived because of that plant Troller, and whatever secondary they brought to the table. This belief is based upon my experience with the game, and is also my right to hold.


 

Posted

Good kins use speed boost so their team mates can keep up.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeuraud View Post
This belief is based upon my experience with the game, and is also my right to hold.
I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion and no one else did that I remember. It is your "belief". I can think what I want and so can you. Welcome to the forums. It's for people's opinions and I have mine and you have yours. I'm done talking to you since you have also not added anything to the conversation than your own "belief. Have a good day Sir!

P.S. I never said that the endurance had anything to do with it, but it did fyi.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZanderCross View Post
What the heck are you talking about? If he's not angry at all these people then I don't know what he has to do to show it. Don't comment on my conversation with someone else if you have nothing to add to it. That's troll behavior...

Also, he took something I said and made it seem like I was trying to contradict him when I wasn't even talking to him. He keeps getting angry because people don't agree with him. Did you even read the posts or did you just want to add to your post counts?
This is a thread, not a conversation. And you are the only one who sounds angry.

Relax, it is friendly in here.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clebstein View Post
Good kins use speed boost so their team mates can keep up.
Good Kins use other use powers besides SB to help the team.

Edit: Just wanted to add to that bit.


 

Posted

If I was leading a team and you said SB only by request and you have to say thank you, I'd kick you from the team. If you were leading, I'd call you some uncivilized words and probably end up getting kicked. If a third party was leading, I'd call you the same uncivilized words and add you my ignore list before I get kicked... and still get kicked anyway.

I'm of the school of thought that SB is highly overrated, and I have no problem teaming with kins that skip it entirely or rarely use it. However, one way to piss me off quickly is compliments for average play. I'd gladly give a standing ovation when somebody pulls off something awesome such as taking control of near wipe situation caused by somebody else's (usually me) mistake. But saying thank you for clicking my name and pressing SB every 90 seconds? Go yourself. If you want your epeen stroked you have to earn it.

And because we're on the topic, here are some other etiquette issues that piss me off.
*Requesting a teleport and having to say thank you. It's one thing if somebody comes out of the mission or waits for you while others go in, but when you choose using recall friend over twiddling your thumbs you're not getting a thank you from me!

*Saying "gratz" (or even worse "gz") every time somebody levels. Honestly, none of us give a crap and we all know this. It's exceptionally meaningless when people have a bind to say some congratulatory phrase every time they hear that dinging sound. Screw that, if I'm going to congratulate you for leveling it will be meaningful (i.e. /e clap, or announcing the newest 50 to the world.

*Not kicking khelds from the team every time a cyst spawns. I'm sorry, but if I had you in my room and came across some giant cyst that was spewing black puffy stuff you'd be kicked out so fast you'd think I slotted SB for speed. Why am I not allowed to treat khelds the same way!


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by m3lon View Post
*Requesting a teleport and having to say thank you. It's one thing if somebody comes out of the mission or waits for you while others go in, but when you choose using recall friend over twiddling your thumbs you're not getting a thank you from me!
It's called polite. You ask for something you say please and thank you. It's social norms. I just saved you a 2 mile trek through a city zone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by m3lon View Post

*Not kicking khelds from the team every time a cyst spawns. I'm sorry, but if I had you in my room and came across some giant cyst that was spewing black puffy stuff you'd be kicked out so fast you'd think I slotted SB for speed. Why am I not allowed to treat khelds the same way!
Kicking the Khelds won't help as the cysts will still spawn. And it's a game, the damage you take isn't real.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by m3lon View Post
If I was leading a team and you said SB only by request and you have to say thank you, I'd kick you from the team. If you were leading, I'd call you some uncivilized words and probably end up getting kicked. If a third party was leading, I'd call you the same uncivilized words and add you my ignore list before I get kicked... and still get kicked anyway.

I'm of the school of thought that SB is highly overrated, and I have no problem teaming with kins that skip it entirely or rarely use it. However, one way to piss me off quickly is compliments for average play. I'd gladly give a standing ovation when somebody pulls off something awesome such as taking control of near wipe situation caused by somebody else's (usually me) mistake. But saying thank you for clicking my name and pressing SB every 90 seconds? Go yourself. If you want your epeen stroked you have to earn it.

And because we're on the topic, here are some other etiquette issues that piss me off.
*Requesting a teleport and having to say thank you. It's one thing if somebody comes out of the mission or waits for you while others go in, but when you choose using recall friend over twiddling your thumbs you're not getting a thank you from me!

*Saying "gratz" (or even worse "gz") every time somebody levels. Honestly, none of us give a crap and we all know this. It's exceptionally meaningless when people have a bind to say some congratulatory phrase every time they hear that dinging sound. Screw that, if I'm going to congratulate you for leveling it will be meaningful (i.e. /e clap, or announcing the newest 50 to the world.

*Not kicking khelds from the team every time a cyst spawns. I'm sorry, but if I had you in my room and came across some giant cyst that was spewing black puffy stuff you'd be kicked out so fast you'd think I slotted SB for speed. Why am I not allowed to treat khelds the same way!
You see, bad manners dont need super boost for an excuse.


I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.

Thank you Devs & Community people for a great game.

So sad to be ending ):

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by tanstaafl View Post
You see, bad manners dont need super boost for an excuse.
and it is highly unacceptable to demand to be pleased and thank you'd evey damn time you need or recieve a buff. i am not saying that m3lon was right in what he said, but the OP is being a little self centered in expecting this.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggis View Post
yeah, manners are nice, but do you thank the tank every time he taunts? I'm happy to have the occasional 'TY for the buffs' or 'good tanking' than a constant stream of 'thank you' and 'can I have [buff of your choice] this please?'

This^.

What you're suggesting is that ***TEAM*** members politely ask other TEAM members to use their powers? Ask the Blaster to blast please? Ask the Defender to heal/buff? Ask the Controller to hold?

It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard... I hope this is a tr0ll post, otherwise it's just plain sad.

For me, the bottom line is this: teaming/running missions is simply MORE FUN when things are moving along at a good clip. Having to wait 20 seconds between mobs while the Stone Tanker catches up with the rest of the team is just BORING.

Fast teams are more fun, more exciting, and better xp. If SB ups the "fast", which ups the "fun" AND the xp, that's end of discussion, as far as I'm concerned.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cryop View Post
Hello there forums,
So lately I have been playing a Fire/Kin and teaming around. In the latest team (still in it as we speak) we sparked a mini argument about me SBing people.

My argument is that I refused to SB them unless they ask for it and say thank you afterwards. Both me and Shang stated how my using Speed Boost was a gift, not a necesity.

Their argument is that if I don't intend on using the power, why have it. Also that the stone tank (the one who was demanding the SB) would be able to play much better, as well as everyone else, because of it.

Of course I understand that Speed Boost is a big advantage for the team and stone tankers, what I don't understand is that just because it is a help hat it means manners must go out of the window. I didn't roll a /kin just to observe everyone's buffs to see when to give them one.

So what's your overall view on the matter?
Seriously, it's expected for you to SB people unless they ask you NOT to. Why would you pick a /kin AND pick up Speed Boost if you're not going to use it?

Your argument is that you "refuse to SB them unless they ask for it and say thank you afterwards." Does a Tanker NOT use Taunt until his entire team is wiping and they'd have to ask him to Taunt and say thank you once he does his job? Does an EMP Defender not heal others unless he is asked to heal them and expects a thank you afterward?

People will say thank you if they feel like it. Sure, manners are nice, but it's not like they have bad manners if they don't say thank you =|. It's a lot of work to keep asking for and saying thank you whenever you want an SB, it's just that simple.

Again, it seems like you're nitpicking and you should just get over it and start SB-ing teammates since this is expected of you.