Super Boost: Excuse for bad manners?

I would love anything that makes SB less desirable to the braying masses. Is there any other power in this game that people hate having based solely on how so much of the player base behaves around it?

I'd be happy if they just increased the duration of SB.

The answer is obvious. You're acting like a self important ***. You play a Kin and take a buff power, you use it where it helps and is needed or you don't take the power or the set. Do you thank the tank when he taunts? Do you thank the scrapper or the blaster when they do damage to an enemy? I suspect not. You are no more obligated or expected to do that then other people are when you use the power and set you have selected for the good of the team.

You would certainly be immediately kicked from any team I was leading for your poor attitude and refusal to help the team.

I hate to bring up what other people have already said.

But if you're demanding a please and a thank you for a Speed Boost from every single person that you cast it upon, you're better off teaming by yourself. You took on being a controller/defender/corruptor with it, you took that power, you'd better use it. Otherwise, quit b*tching and get on your "jay oh bee" as a defender/controller/corruptor. If you're gonna be demanding that while being on the team, no one is gonna want to team with you.

I have a Kin/Ice defender and I always cast SB before everyone goes off to do the mish and not one moment do I expect a please or a thank you from every single person that I team with because it's MY JOB. On that same token, I'm not gonna be thanking a bubbler for bubbling me, a Sonic Res for shielding me, a scrapper or a blaster for their dps, or a tank for managing aggro/taunting. Why? It's their JOB. That doesn't mean I don't appreciate them for doing their job (because I do!) but this whole thing of thanking and saying please for SB is completely and utterly asinine.

Demanding a please and thanks just makes you, as someone said, a prima donna on nicer terms. But if that were me, I would have said something worse.

In conclusion, please do your job without expecting a please and a thank you.

waitressing ≠ playing MMOs -- two different dynamics, two different scenarios

But I do understand the analogy given. Though in that case, am I to give 25 inf every time they cast SB on me?

What I mean is I'm not going to thank for each SB. But at the end of the night I'm more than likely to say something like:

"Nice job, SuperFireKinManDude. You were really on the ball with SB tonight."

i'll say this straight up. I have a plant/kin who just destroys with or without a team.

i generally solo her at +8/+2 (she can solo at +8/+4 but kills things too slowly to bother with that setting, and the lack of mez resist can become a problem sometimes at that setting)... frankly there is nothing, in any arc or tf she generally can't do without the team.

now this little engine of destruction has a choice whenever i log her on. I could
a) sb the team at their whim and desire, keeping them perma SB'ed while they struggle without the myriad of other abilities she can bring to the table
b) use sb on the stone tanker, and anyone who's an end hog, while using my holds and sick damage, fs and general power to steamroll the mish with the team
c) be a ***** and never sb anyone and debate respecting the power out of the set.

normally i'm a good teamate and i side with B... but when there are people going berzerk and bashing on me for not sbing them all the time, in short complaining i'm not doing A, i usually throw a fit and go to C.

I often tell teams which treat me like that, it's thier choice, SB or FS and if they have issues with that, then i'll find a team which isn't filled with complaining punks.

of course i feel terrible about doing this... i'd love to be able to do A... but i'm not a hyperactive 14 yo boy who can SB a team and do the whole troller thing wihtout pause. So the choice i'm faced with as a player is either help the team in a way i'm comfortable, and which i think helps us out more in the end... or simply don't play my kin.

sadly, i usually just chose not to play her because of the headaches.

Just did a Synapse TF and we lost 3 people over Speed Boost. 3 kins on the team, two Fire/Kins and one Ice/Kin. The Ice/Kin was the only one who SB'd regularly, the others were the type that demanded requests. They dropped when the rest of the team mentioned that we'd all like to not have to ask every time and that it wasn't their job to only use SB. They dropped when we asked them to try to buff us whenever possible and caused another one of our tanks to drop because of other general rudeness. Okay, enough anecdotes and venting.

When I play my Kins, I try to do whatever that Archetype is expected to do. So on a Defender or Corrupter, I try to blast and buff. I won't deny that Kin is a busy set, but I try to play to the best of my ability. I might not keep SB on everyone ALL the time, but if I see that it's not on someone, I make sure that I'll buff them when not blasting or controlling. I never look at it as being able to do only one thing. It's not a matter of "I need to lock down this spawn and Fulcrum Shift, no time to SB ever". It's more of a "Lock down this spawn, Fulcrum Shift, okay SB is wearing off, I'll start a buff cycle after this." I'll buff at the start of the mission, but after that I sort of "stagger" my buffing. That means that I'll blast, buff, blast buff, Transfusion, buff, Fulcrum Shift, buff. Maybe the buffs will drop once in a while, but I always play so that I know I will re apply the buffs when given the opportunity.

I'll always announce if anyone doesn't want SB for whatever reason. If they don't, I won't give it to them. Everyone else I let know that I'll try to keep them buffed, they'll get buffed ASAP if they don't constantly spam "SB plz". I find if I do well enough, I don't get asked terribly often. Well I've said my piece, it seems this is always going to be a matter of opinion.

This **** is why I don't play /kin. Nothing but high-maintenance idiots who are too dumb to build competently and who apparently have 'sb plz' bound to a macro. Single target buffs are terrible (especially given the interface), and they should've all been turned into aoe clicks or auto powers or auras a long time ago.

(Then I wrote this idea up in the suggestions forum a while back and discovered that there are lots of people who there who actually enjoy ST buffing, but that's another story.)

I might make a /kin ruptor someday and just not take SB. I do like the rest of the set.

*Actually, my dream is that siphon speed just work like siphon power does. Dunno how /kin managed to be designed with all these cool positional mechanics that are a great fit with how the game works, but the only buff anyone cares about was left to be a single target buff with the shortest duration in the game.

ed: I also don't see how making SB an aoe buff would require it to be nerfed, since you can just spam it out anyway.

I miss the days of the "Stun Proc" IO working on players after slotting it into SB.

"Sure, you want SB in the middle of a battle, ABSOLUTELY!"

"Opps, I guess you won the proc lottery on that one. It will wear off in a few seconds."

I SB those who need SB on teams, I don't answer to people who beg or constantly send me messages or have it on a macro everytime it wears off, I am not going to SB your butt when we are standing at the entrance or when there is 1 minion left and we will be heading to the next mission.

I have, at one point, respec'd it out of my build, people in this game rely on it TOOO MUCH as a crutch, if you can't get the job done without SB, maybe you are in over your head or should rethink YOUR slotting, but as for me, Im too busy tossing out FS, holding down groups, tossing out heals to be worried that for 10 seconds YOU didnt have SB on you.

At this point in time however, I do have the power, it is slotted for end rec, and I still refuse to SB people who constantly ask, you get 1 warning and then you're cut off... unless your a stone tank. Other than that, SB is used randomly on people in fights who are running low on END and I am capable of seeing who those people are without prodding, that being said, doesnt mean they are always in range and I refuse to be some sort of SB delivery boy.

I'll admit it, my mind is shot lately, and I can't remember what exactly it was I was going to do after the next thing on my mind, I just make it up as I go.

I wait for people to ask for speed or i ask who would like it and who would not want it. Stone tanks usually always want it.

Sprite Fire - spot on. Only kin I like to play is the one without SB. I have joined a TF with a kin (by request) and said "I'm tired so the stone will get SB the rest of you will get FS/transfusion. Everyone was cool with that.

SB can help stone tanks but I've ran across a couple who basically told me I don't need to play a kin if I don't want to because they didn't need SB. I've alted and they were right.

Goshnova - one of the best TFs I was on had three kins all without SB. A dwarf that seemed to think he could only tank with SB confused me but he didn't rage quit and it was a very nice run.

For Synapse I find a mind or illusion troller more useful than SB. Held enemies aren't zappying you and decoys take the alpha nicely.

Silencer7 - if SB was an AoE buff it basically would mean I would never team with a /kin because 95% of the time I can't handle SB. Sometimes I even have a hard time with AM.

I do come across quite a few people who refuse SB. The inherent run component is just horrible. Personally, I think if THAT element was removed we'd see a lot less of the "SB plz" stuff.

Can you imaging the griefing in WW from people who leave the thing on auto? IR is bad enough.

Wassabi - actually I would rather know up front that I'm NOT getting SB'd than have it 'sometimes'. The fluctuating run speed would get me killed and if I'm tanking likely a few other people too.