Going Rogue in Europe

Some of you will have picked up on the announcement we've just made about the Gamestop/Razer City of Heroes Going Rogue™ Complete Collection Pre-order promotion. This is bound to infuriate some of you and we understand that this will be felt even more strongly after we announced a few months back that Going rogue wasn't going to be available on the shelves in Europe.

As some of you may know, if you've read this post here, we couldn't let this Pre-order opportunity pass us by. Our intention is to market our game and make it known to non-City of Heroes players. While we've had this opportunity in North America, it's unfortunately not been the case in Europe so far.

We have not given up on finding ways to create opportunities for City of Heroes and hope we'll be able to give you an update on the situation in the short term, but bear in mind that we cannot guarantee anything at this point.

This is not the most informative post we've had for you, but we did want to acknowledge your concerns and assure you that we do consider them important. We always appreciate your constructive feedback, regardless of its nature and very much want to improve the experience of our European players.

Fairest thing to do: If you find no Pre Order alternative for us, just give it to all of us for free. It's a start towards making up for it.

may you just answer us this question then as we get nothing?? why arnt the server lists just merged??? why not just do that and save everyone this side the dissapointment gives us extra toon slots etc and make a bigger player base surely its a no brainer? so in return for not getting ANYTHING i hope this can be answered

Okay, I was wrong...it was Avatea instead of WW that came with the message that they do really care about us...

In short we have been [censored] yet again

Just merge the server lists or tell us in the EU to [censored] off

This will be interesting to track...

Click this post here on avetas post to take you to the post from black pebble its just for them its to help new players and wont be available outside of the complete collection plus if it was a booster type pack would u buy it the way things are declining?

Now I've taken more things into consideration, I can see that taking the opportunity while you could was the wisest move. I posted a little rashly in the other thread before I thought about it properly, and it would appear that someone's picked up on it. Ah well, move on and all that.

I doubt I'll ever like exclusivity, but that's just me and I can accept that and move on. The only thing I still have an issue with is the change of situation. I don't mind that Gamestop have this deal, but I don't like how it was posted some time ago that there would not be any bonuses for pre-ordering. I understand that there weren't any plans at the time, but after what we've seen today, I'd recommend avoiding making such a statement unless it was something that the team felt strongly about.

I know I sound like I'm being really nitpicky, but I think we need to keep a tight hold (which you guys are usually very good at) on the fine line between possibility and fact.

I'm all lined up for my digital download (non-Complete Collectors) prepurchase. I can't change that now, and that's okay. I'm at peace with my purchasing decision. It would have been extremely foolhardy for NCSoft / Paragon Studios to overlook this opportunity and I applaud them on getting quite the coup in that regard. There are some extra goodies, as stated, of most benefit for new players. It isn't unheard of for these sort of things to eventually become available via download / booster pack (ie. Prestige Sprints etc). That may happen in time.

I have moved on, now I just await the day my new Rogue or Vigilante can storm the streets of Praetoria!

I'm going to agree with Carni on this one.
I'm on hiatus from CityOf at the moment, mostly due to Uni work, etc. I still love the game (I've seen that line too many times, but I mean it. Its the only MMO I own) but, when it comes down to it, I can't really play if the EU servers are, frankly, left to die off.

Theres no incentive to play EU side. At all.
'Server list merger isnt possible' ?
Then make it possible. No, it won't be easy. But, to me, it looks like either that happens or, sometime down the line, the EU servers will die, through dint of no marketing, less players than the US servers, and no incentive to play them. And shutting servers down looks real bad, we all know that. Ergo, don't let it happen...

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I assume due to this great tie-in between Gamestop & CoH that when I go to my local http://www.gamestop.ie/ store in town I will be able to pre-order and get these goodies to use on my EU account?

Another day, another disappointment.

Thank you for posting Avatea, I am glad that at least someone is keeping an eye on this board but I think the patience of a lot of us EU players is wearing thin. With no information and no incentive to play in the EU other than our excellent albeit rapidly dwindling community over here, I think EU morale is at an all time low.

Don't take it personally, I know it's likely the domain of someone higher up in NCSoft but we don't want promises, we want answers. Just something to let us know we're not being left to die in the dark out here.

I call 'not viable'.

We had the US > EU Transfer, why not add four servers to the US side, and EU > US? I mean, the tech was there for the US > EU transfer, but it's not possible to use that to do the opposite?

Look at it this way, we've had our EU offices closed, our EU con presence made nil, no shop presence, no marketing presence, we've had cases in the past of American players getting preferential treatment from GM's (US players having deleted characters restored, EU players being denied that), and now this. And I'm sure I've left some things out too. And what with the forum merger, the mods and so forth are now about mostly out of EU player hours, there's no community mod presence for us like there once was... I'm just glad I'm not a French or German server player. I'd hate to see what it's like there.

5 Damage/Recharge DO's with special minor procs isn't ground breaking, but it's the little things that add up.

I've bought pretty much everything CoH related when it hit the stores. Super Boosters, Wedding Pack, Mac Pack, GVE, character slots. I spent hundreds of pounds going to conventions, at conventions. At Bristol Comic Expo 2008, I asked Stephen 'Rockjaw' Reed for a box of GVE Trial CD's and I walked around that convention, handing them out to people. And I just worry that the time will come to pull the plug on the 'not viable EU servers' and my only recourse will be "here's a free US account, start over, rebuy things, oh, no vet badges, sorry, basic character slot amount. Rebuy those too. And all your old characters? Remake them! Start over!"

Tabula Rasa players got something along those lines when that Triple A title was shut down. After NC Soft said it wouldn't.

So the general EU worries about such things are kind of understandable. One day it could be 'No plans to shut down the EU servers' and then a few weeks later, blam.

While I can understand not running a marketing campaign like this where it's unlikely to meet the costs involved in setup, I strongly suggest that Zortel's concerns are addressed as swiftly as possible by whoever is responsible.