Calling All 60 Month Vets

I have 57 vet months right now. I might care (!).

Anyways, it's not a huge bonus really anyways. I doubt it is even worth 10 dollars, since there are so many uses to the pre-req powers anyways.

Furthermore, there are plenty of things at which NCsoft could wink their big blue eyebrow and squeeze $10 out of a lot of players with only a minimal number getting at all upset. Heck, they could allow players to unlock Cimerora and vanguard goodies on all characters and a lot of people would pony up. We would also buy a in-game pony.

Anything which is perceived to be an in-game advantage, even as minimal as the 60 month reward, is probably best to avoid.

Well, honestly i guess this thread doesn't really concern me since i passed 60 months some time ago. Also, even before Ninja Run became an option it was not uncommon for me to not take travel powers before level 20 or higher. Or even not at all on some alts. So changing the 60 month reward wouldn't really affect me, but i do agree with those that feel that the current status quo is perfectly acceptable. Then again, as someone who feels no urgency about taking travel powers as soon as they unlock, i guess my opinion doesn't matter.

i've stated before that i'd prefer to have the veteran rewards powers just be free, permanent versions of temp powers available all players. Adding a recipe that unlocks travel powers at 6 for characters who craft it would be fine, even if it would be of dubious utility in my own opinion. Or even a pack you buy for your account. i just fail to see a real need for it at this point when anyone can get Raptor Pack flight at level 1 and Zero G Pack super leaping at level 11. (The Zero G mission is sometimes offered at 10, but is always offered at 11 to 15.) Of course you can also get Ninja Fun by buying the Marital Arts pack.

i guess the main use i've gotten out of the 60 month reward is mixing up prerequisites. Like selecting Teleport and Hover as my travel power selections. That part can be quite useful.

I think something has been left out of this "discussion" so far. It's great that you can see the intricacies of different build possibilities with this Vet reward. You may not be able to see what incredible harm this could mean to brand spanking new players. As any player who's been around for awhile can attest to, we have all seen some really bad builds. Now think of the horrible build a new player could make taking Fly, SS, SJ and /or TP by lvl 12. I mean taking all 4 at the expense of primary/ secomdary powers and while being able to travel thinking you're all cool but not able to survive let alone defeat anything. This is a problem with your suggestion. New players need time to learn the ropes in any game. Experience makes a world of difference.

Now, you may have been playing since IOs came out. You may think that you know as much as those players that have been playing significantly longer than you. And you might. I don't know you personally so I cannot make an opinion about you as a player. But even those people that never played all 60 months but still payed (stuck it on a CC and forgot about the sub maybe?) and don't know anything about the game have payed their dues.

Pay your dues Grasshopper-- simple as that is why this is a bad idea. This is why making Vet powers as purchaseable options is a bad idea. New players haven't paid their dues- don't have the knowledge or experience to use them/ appreciate them. Now who can determine when new players have paid their dues-- the Devs, and they have given us Vet rewards NOT purchaseable rewards at given time frames.

If you were suggesting to adding more vet rewards for certain months, then I would agree with you. Having only a respec for a vet reward seems kind of like a cop out on trying to think of a new vet reward, but changing any current vet reward is a bad idea.

For everyone:
Removal of prereqs (you can get Fly without Hover)

For 60+ vets:
Can take any of the powers at any level (can get Fly at level 6)

Y/N?

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Lets see Vets waited to get access to 2 styles of wings .. between booster packs and IO recipes it wasn't long before that became a joke. I currently have so many free costume changes and free respecs I have no clue what I am supposed to do with all of them. SG rewards only benefit a Vet that happens to run and/or do the design/engineering wortk for an SG base and now, 9 months before I reach 60 months, you want offer up travel powers to anyone willing to plop down 9.99? How about NO.

The Vet reward program was supposed to REWARD players that stayed around and PAID to play the game for X number of months. I have no problem with booster packs and have the majority of them myself but to take away a VET reward already handed out to people that were around when this game was still in BETA and are still here playing it today to give it to anyone with a credit card is insulting. I waited my 5 years for the ability to get a travel power at level 6 and without having to take anything else from that pool... You can wait for yours too.

Most Bonus packs offer new emotes, some added costume options (including capes and auras) and one fairly decent power.. the best of these being the Mission teleporter and ninja run. Not one of them has ever granted a player access to normal powers earler than usual and I see NO reason to change that and if you find a 60 month Vet that thinks its a good idea they need to contact their doctor cause their meds are off again.


Added later.. Let me add that I don't see myself running happily to take fly at level 6 on any character I make in the future once Decmber 15th passes or taking weeks respecing older characters JUST to save one power selection.. Heck I always take Fly as my travel power anyway and Air Superiority is a pretty good added attack to any melee character's attack chain so why CHANGE out? But on new Trollers, Blasters, and Defenders this means I could add an addional buff/debuff/attack/Def to my build early on that might have waited previously when I HAD to take an additional power from the pool. Like I said I BUY Booster packs and Ninja run plus (the Vet reward) Prestige Sprints = I can get around faster running than using the temp powers I earn doing Safeguards. I have DP characters that took their FLY at 14 and tucked away a Raptor pack with 2 hours still available. It's still ONLY one power and how you equate that to DRAMATICALLY improving your entire build is beyond me.

Well, it's not like I'd freak out or anything if they did it, but it's mostly that I'm just fine with the way things are. Not like this game is hard or anything. Not really much of a comparison between things we can choose as powers and cosmetic stuff like animated tails, though. Different things entirely.

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I'm sure I'll still be around in 30 months when I get my 60 month vet reward.

And in 30 months, I'll still be really annoyed by the fact that there are 39 months of rewards out there I don't have, and will never have.

I'm perfectly happy to wait an extra 30 months to reach the same point as all the other vets. The part that chafes the most is knowing that, because the vet rewards are ongoing, I will never see the same rewards, no matter how long I wait.

The claim that veterans rewards should be unpurchasable, ongoing, and unvarying is basically assigning your current subscription fee an infinite value; you are saying that there is no cost, no method, no bonus that could possibly match the benefit of your subscription fee in 2006.

A never-ending Veteran Reward program tells new players that they will never have the same value to the company as those that have been around since launch. Is that really a message that should be delivered?

(( DO NOT post anecdotes comparing this to job-related benefits. You eventually retire from a job. You do not retire from a game. Job-related benefits have a finite end point. CoHV Veteran Rewards do not. ))

A reasonable compromise might be to allow, say, a thirty-month veteran to pay for thirty more months and immediately get the rewards for 33-60 months, but not the loyalty badges.

So you'd get the 60 month travel power reward, but not the 60 month loyalty badge until you actually accrue enough time.

That would probably require some kind of programming changes to separate the awarding of the rewards from the loyalty badges. The question then is, would enough people be willing to pay ahead to make the cost of the programming and administration of these changes worthwhile?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't work this way already because I pay for three months at a time, and I never get the rewards until the actual calendar time elapses.