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That's a good part of it. I quit my previous MMO over a similar change. Another is RL has changed over the years. The game was fun because it had some challenge, now it is just easy mode. Within in no time, the new content will be picked apart and completed as fast as possible so you can cram your merit runs in for the night.

Again, I will watch and see the changes first so to be informed and not make some rash judgement. Besides, I think Voo will hunt me down if I leave before he gets his MLRSF badge.

TBH, it's okay Adeon. I don't think we are going to convince each other to the other side unless the devs gives us more clues as to whether buffs would be changed via nerf, end, rech, etc. or not at all. Changing them to AOE's would ruin game play for some and improve for others. And really, not much more to say on that.

Which is different how from say my scrapper on teams:
1. Select target
2. punch, punch
3. punch, punch, target dies
4. GOTO 1

Or my blaster:
1. Select target
2. pew,pew,pew
3. pew,pew,pew, target dies
4. GOTO 1

Or my MM:
1. BG mode
2. AF tank
3. Take nap
4. GOTO 1 j/k

Anyhow, IME, there is no real difference from toons in actions - we just click powers on targets, be it buffs or be it damage or be it whatever, with the exception of some AOEs.

And the crux of our difference. Buffs to me are strategic game play. Should I use that CM now or wait, in which case I could be mezzed or killed and then missed my chance to use my buff. I have never seen a case where all buffs are needed all the time. I find it hard to believe that you don't think there is anything wrong with a team with a cold, therm, FF, and emp for example and buffs were AOE based - all those buffs on all team mates, practically non-stop unless things like end and rech are not affected. Imagine a league now with multiple buffing toons all hitting AOE buffs. That would be insanely overpowered IMO.

Okay, taking this in one large chunk. In short, how can you not see rech/end or nerf if the powers affect 7 others instead of 1? And I mentioned aboved, imagine leagues now with all those AOEs going off. I am in the camp that the devs would balance the AOEs as AOEs rather than single target powers. I guess we will just differ on that unless there are changes that show differently.

And a minor note on the current iTrials in that I agree that buffing toons seem to be in danger there. But so far, toons like my emp def or cold corr have no issues joining. Maybe on some servers, this is not the case. But the balance is that these are iTrials and the incarnate powers are not working at low levels, which buffing powers do. I still believe that players will play what they want and that buffing toons are not for everyone.

And you're neglecting another group like me that can buff but are not pigeon holed into buff bots either.

Or your style too.

If a happy middle position could be found that doesn't lead to nerfing buffs or increase rech/end/etc., then it should be explored. Based on the dev's history for game balance, I don't see them just making AOE buffs out the single target ones as an option.

Well said Aett. I would be one of those more stressed out by changes to the buffs mentioned. I love my support toons - they are my favorite to play.

And I agree that not every player needs to be buffed all the time. It is not hard to figure out who needs a buff and who doesn't. I would hate to see my buffs nerfed or end usage greatly increased because players are being lazy in learning strategic buffing.

And to that third point mentioned above:
Buffing toons are not for everyone. Players will roll what they want, including melee and buffing toons. And would you like to back up with real numbers here on "City of Brutes"? Or are you just exaggerating since that is not my experience with this game.

Need a "Mission Accomplished" pic here.

More and more of this lately in that if you don't like what the OP says, you are mean and insulting. The forums have been more positive than negative.

Thanks DMystic for pointing out that new powers have been put in the game and there is a stickied thread for power suggestions.

As for future plans, I will challenge you to show where in the world of any industry where future plans are laid out for all to see. Do car makers show what is up for 2013? Do computer companies reveal their devices for the next few years so that all their competitors can see and plan around that? This game is no different.

The devs have shown a history of introducing new powers to the game, and I have zero doubt they have more up their collective sleeves. Let me ask you this, if they said they were going to have polearms out as a set, but then ran into problems, and months become years. Will the players be oh-so-nicely quiet while the devs try to get them to work or screaming "hey, you said you were going to give us polearms!!!!!!! Where are they???!!!??!" One step further in the devs say "well, since we said we will give you polearms, we will hold off on new content until we get them done." Any guess the reply from the player base? The devs have their reasons for witholding information.

And the devs do communicate. I know I have PM'd them before (like my Rikti O suggestion and gotten a reply). They are at conventions and even did that video the other day. Try those.

MP!!!!! You have to me let join this! I want to hear the screams.

Anyhow, looking for a CoP... doh!

What about as grenades since that animation exists already? I know redraw, but something different.