Is CoH working on any new power sets?
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Posted on: 2011-05-14 19:54 in Suggestions and Ideas
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Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
So is CoH working on any new powers sets? Or should I keep just farming my toons because there only fun at 50 IOed out, cause nothing is new..
Be great to see something totally new without seeing the same animations of other powers. |
Seriously?
Because people complained for years there was nothing do at level 50.
Unless you've played through every single arc in the game, red and blue side, and every single MA arc - there's plenty to do.
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So what animations from Dual Pistols, Demon Summoning, or Kinetic Melee are shared by other sets?
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Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
Be great to see something totally new without seeing the same animations of other powers.
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I love clueless suggestions. 
The question was is there something new coming out. I'm sorry if that's clueless suggestion to you. Theres been about 15 new things to come out to Coh AT/powers including CoV coming out. and about 6 of those in the last 4 years. But I guess DP, KM and demons should be enough for the next year or 2. Since no one minds that much because all those were very recent things in the game. I'm not complaining about i20 content. I have 4 50s with all T3 or T4's, since i've played it so much and bored of it, I want to PvE up a new toon, problem is i've played everything. So to keep thing simple.. Is there anything talk of new power sets in the game?
COH is not working on anything new. Primarily because COH is a program (or rather a set of programs, client and server working together,) not an intelligent entity trained in powerset creation.
Actually, if you wanted to get *really* nitpicky, COH isn't even a program, it's an abbreviated form of City of Heroes, which itself IS the program, etc, etc, etc.
And... really... you've played "Everything?" Every power combination through every mission? Scrapper alone, that's 10 primaries and 8 secondaries to combine, working 1-50 through each (non farming,) going back via Ouro to catch the stuff you missed, then swapping sides and ouro-ing 1-50 villainside, THEN playing through the non-farm AE content.
Then you get to do it with the *other* ATs. Even the Epics, Khelds? Humanform takes different strategies than a bi or triform, VEAT-side, a Huntsman (for instance) is going to play rather differently than a Bane.
And no, playing through them once or twice (you mention 4 50s, I'll say "two times through each side) - grab a different AT and try it. Stuff that's an absolute bear on one - AT or powerset - can be cake with another.
Set up a theme team, run through that way. Give yourself some other challenges. Write something *decent* in MA.
Just a few suggestions... from someone with (given the most recent count) 300+ characters, 26 (ish) 50s, who still doesn't think he can honestly say he's "done everything."
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The short answer is: We can not answer that question|
Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
So to keep thing simple.. Is there anything talk of new power sets in the game?
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The developers have multiple ways of communicating with the players, ranging from posting on the forums, chatting in the game, giving out interviews on 3rd party websites, talking at conventions, to more recently talking on camera during Ustream events. There are also dedicated threads for suggestions and ideas relating to desired costume parts, desired booster-packs, and even desired animations.
Sometimes the developers use these methods of communication to give players hints about what development plans. Sometimes the developers use these methods of communication to deliberately mislead players about development plans. Sometimes the developers give out development information to players under Non-disclosure agreements when testing new content. Sometimes developers have posted about future content or plans on closed beta forums.
Then there are modification factors, such as the policy of the developers to not explicitly comment on suggestions and ideas. Then there is the modification factor of player interpretation of what developers say. Case in point being the excessive amount of work needed to implement two-handed weapons. While the developers have not said whether or not two-handed weapons are in development, the player-base is able to extrapolate that the development of two-handed weapons would likely be locked behind another game expansion based on previous public developer comments regarding the production of Demon-Summoning and the policies of NCSoft.
The ultimate result is that nobody can answer your question.
There has been no public disclosure of new power-set development through any of the channels of communications Paragon Studios uses. On the other hand there has been no denial of any new power-set development through any of the channels of communication Paragon Studios uses.
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No, I haven't played everything in the game. it's the fact that i've played every type of power in the game. When I say every power type that doesn't mean every way of playing a toon Ma/SR Ma/Shield Ma/Dark. It means i've played that power set, not every combo. And also no way i've played that power 1-50. Useally I farm a toon up, spend about 3 billion in IOs and hamis and get the accolades, get custom slots and all that good stuff. On my 2 accounts on freedom both have 1 slot, and everything esle is 50. I've deleted alot of 50s in the past, i've even remade 50s that i've deleted. Problem is I would like to "play the game" non AE, playing the toon 1-50 getting accolades, badges, reading all the new content that i've missed in the last few issues. Just everytime I sit down to make a toon, I can't figure out anything I would find the least bit of fun.|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Set up a theme team, run through that way. Give yourself some other challenges.
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But, I like your idea on the themed team. I've only done 1 and that was all stone trollers team. 8 people. it was fun. I think a 8 man DP team would be cool. or troller team.
Been playing since i1, PLing since i7 for PvP. Stop PvPing at i13, just picking it back up. Idk even know how many 50's, but easily over 70, and it's not a big deal. just means I PL alot. Each one of my 50's have been fully sloted and played for 30+ hours, unless it just sucks in pvp.. then byebye.. For anyone who get's butt hurt over PLing, play since i1 and PvP decent, then come talk to me.
je saist,
Thank you for the feedback, I haven't ever read the forums untill recently. You've answered my question and thank you the person before him, for the idea of themed teaming.
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Tip 1: Don't do that. Which, I'll say, it sounds like you have as a goal. (PVP excepted, of course, I get doing that - but, yeah, post-I13 pvp....) |
Originally Posted by iMidget Perfection
Useally I farm a toon up,
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| Problem is I would like to "play the game" non AE, playing the toon 1-50 getting accolades, badges, reading all the new content that i've missed in the last few issues. Just everytime I sit down to make a toon, I can't figure out anything I would find the least bit of fun. |
Why? You know what happens at the end. All the plot twists, all the buildup, it's all spoiled for you already.
Part of what makes a set fun (or not) to me - and yeah, I'll say there are some that are just not fun, but that's personal preference - is getting "those" powers. For instance, my first 50 was an elec/elec blaster, made back in I3. One of the things that STILL makes her one of my favourites is remembering "payback" in the late teens on synapse.
You know (or, ok, maybe you don't if you've PL'd through and missed it,) hitting all the clockwork. Including Tesla Knights... before Blasters had Defiance 2.0. I was getting REALLY irritated... then I hit 18 and picked up Tesla Cage, and gave them back some of their own before letting them have shocky, electric death.
It's also what slowed down my (forum-namesake) Fire/SS tank, my first character. Burn got changed, badly, just before I got them to 18. That "plateau" power of Burn was no longer something to look forward to to me. (Did get him to 50, too - and respecced when the fear was taken out of burn.)
PLing 1-50... you don't get that. Yes, you get to slot it up and see it at "full power," but you don't get the "hey, you, yeah you who was giving me trouble, I've got a surprise for you."
Roles also change as you level up, too. Not just as in your AT becomes stronger, but - well, for me the Empath is the classic example. Early on, yes, your "heals" are important. That's why they give them to you first. Everyone is squishy, and reactive a power type as it is, healing really helps. Later? Not so much - so you can concentrate on buffs and messing with your secondary, power pools, etc. (Saying this with two Empaths at 50 and others all over the place.)
Having PL'd 1-50, as you said - you might get frustrated at the "slow" pace of regular 1-50 leveling. Don't. Hang in there. Enjoy the ride. You may find you enjoy the character more when you're done, even if it's not an IO'd out monster just as you hit 50.
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| But, I like your idea on the themed team. I've only done 1 and that was all stone trollers team. 8 people. it was fun. I think a 8 man DP team would be cool. or troller team. |
There are a lot of ways to mix it up.
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You shouldn't have to play every power combination through every piece of content to say you've tried every power set. Some of us don't like repeating the same powersets on characters and I'm one of them although I break my own rule on that if you can vary the theme enough (like crystal Earth control, boxing super strength/martial arts, ice shield defense, etc) but that's beyond the point. I've played every scrapper/stalker set and want new sets to mix it up. No, I'm not complaining there's nothing to do in CoH but I am with the OP in wanting new power sets if only because it widens the scope of themes and concepts and may get players to play new sets or even repeat old sets but with new animations/customizations.|
Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
And... really... you've played "Everything?" Every power combination through every mission?
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So your nitpicking? Are you just putting yourself as an opponent of new powersets/animations/customizations? Are you just trying to defend the devs? Or just feel like putting down the OP? *shrugs*
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| Then you get to do it with the *other* ATs. Even the Epics, Khelds? Humanform takes different strategies than a bi or triform, VEAT-side, a Huntsman (for instance) is going to play rather differently than a Bane. |
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| Just a few suggestions... from someone with (given the most recent count) 300+ characters, 26 (ish) 50s, who still doesn't think he can honestly say he's "done everything." |
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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
Tip 1: Don't do that. Which, I'll say, it sounds like you have as a goal. (PVP excepted, of course, I get doing that - but, yeah, post-I13 pvp....)
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And I'm not an opponent of farming either. Sometimes, you just reach a point where you don't feel like running a certain contact's missions so passing them up but I generally team up instead of farm. Exemp down or SK up. I personally enjoy the different team-ups you can have with people and building characters that have multi-use powers and tactics facing different foes alongside strangers that have different playstyles. But themes, concepts and roleplay also helps break up the monotony.
But I'd generally suggest taking a break. Play a F2P game or pull out some online shooter or something. But not something with the same play as CoX (unless that's all you want to play).
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Well, OP did ask on Player Questions first before coming here.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
I love clueless suggestions.
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Nice, let's all gang up and flame the new guy who joined in february, that ought to show him how friendly our little community is...
To answer your question iMidget, I don't think the devs are currently working on any set, be it new or old. They just finished a very complicated task of unifying the EU global chat servers with the US ones, which probably consumed most of their resources recently. Upcoming, I hear they're concentrating their efforts on two more incarnate trials, to complement Lambda and BaF. After that, I don't know. Keep asking, when somebody knows, they'll share 
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He may be new to the forums but perhaps he's been playing the game for years.|
Originally Posted by Zemblanity
Nice, let's all gang up and flame the new guy who joined in february, that ought to show him how friendly our little community is...
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I have friends who have been playing CoV launched and have never ever been to the forums.
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Can't imagine why.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
I have friends who have been playing CoV launched and have never ever been to the forums.
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It's not out of any rumors or perceived notions of what the forum community is like |
Originally Posted by Zemblanity
Can't imagine why.
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They simply aren't involved with the game in that way.
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most of the game isn't.|
Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
It's not out of any rumors or perceived notions of what the forum community is like
They simply aren't involved with the game in that way. |
We've never gotten an official figure on player-base to forum involvement, but comparing what information we have on subscriptions versus the number of posters and total posts, as well as date of posts, indicates that less than 10% (more like 5%-7%) of the paying player-base interacts with the forums.
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Might want to get off that high horse and re-read his posts:|
Originally Posted by Zemblanity
Nice, let's all gang up and flame the new guy who joined in february, that ought to show him how friendly our little community is...
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| Been playing since i1, PLing since i7 for PvP. Stop PvPing at i13, just picking it back up. |
Answer- yes and no. thats all we know - most likely someone somewhere is getting some ideas down. but a ETA is long before anything..
This thread should be locked and deleted.
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Not sure what that has to do with this. My remark about being clueless was that the OP doesn't seem to be aware of how much work goes into creating new powersets. They require a lot of time, effort, and balancing which has to be fit into everything else the devs are doing. They simply can't toss new sets out every couple of months.
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Originally Posted by Silver Gale
Well, OP did ask on Player Questions first before coming here.
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This thread should be replicated on a tablet made of peanut butter.
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Originally Posted by Bookkeeper_Jay
This thread should be locked and deleted.
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I would love to see new powersets, but I know the Devs are busy with other projects ...
On a side note I just wanted to mention - I left CoH/CoV for over a year to try WoW. WoW had a lot to offer but the main reason I came back is the community. The CoH/CoV community is much friendlier than WoW. I hope it remains that way.
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Originally Posted by MissouriH
The CoH/CoV community is much friendlier than WoW. I hope it remains that way.
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If the OP had asked a question like this on the WoW forums, the whole thread would have been variations of "You're wrong and stupid, shut up and learn to play noob" (Only the spelling would have been atrocious) I decided not to play WoW just from browsing the forums for the game, seems like every jerk that plays MMOs gathers there.
At least here people made an attempt at explaining WHY we don't get new powersets every few weeks.
The OPs attitude didn't help him any either. He basically said "The devs never give us anything new, why aren't they cranking out new powersets as fast as we want them?" (I'm obviously paraphrasing, that's what I got out of his posts)
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
If people in this game believe that the devs have created alot of new powers since the game launch, besides the release of CoV. Then your very wrong. I've been playing since launch, there haven't been very many powers created in the last 7 years since launch. The question I has was not to insult the Dev's or make a demand, it was to simple know if new powers are coming out or any plans of new powers coming out. I'm new to the forums, it was a harmless question. I thought I was polite thoughout this forum, considering the people trying to insult me and I guess stick up to the very hard working dev's? that they themselves have never talked to 1on1 or work'd with.
So is CoH working on any new powers sets? Or should I keep just farming my toons because there only fun at 50 IOed out, cause nothing is new..
Be great to see something totally new without seeing the same animations of other powers.