I pretty much still take Hasten on a few characters at 6--it's a good fit for certain low-level ATs with not as many offensive powers to rely on. And most of my older characters are tweaked just the way I like them, so it's not like I'm going to respec them just to scoot one power out of the way. It's an odd little perk, but I can't see where I've even used it, let alone used it to give me an unfair edge that might put a newer player at a disadvantage.
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I've used it a couple times but usually later in the character's life. For example I would still take Hasten at 6 or 8 depending on my character but I want him to Fly or I want to take Teleport so I can mix that with Hover and skip Teleport Foe and Recall Friend kind of thing.|
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
I pretty much still take Hasten on a few characters at 6--it's a good fit for certain low-level ATs with not as many offensive powers to rely on. And most of my older characters are tweaked just the way I like them, so it's not like I'm going to respec them just to scoot one power out of the way. It's an odd little perk, but I can't see where I've even used it, let alone used it to give me an unfair edge that might put a newer player at a disadvantage.
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But most of my villains are in their 20s before I get them a travel power because the temp powers do a good enough job.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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Ninja run+swift+sprint makes me a happy player. However, having run a build on my main that lacked fly, and now having it again, and now that I have the 60 month vet badge, I'll always take SJ or Fly at *some* point in the 20-30s.
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Be well, people of CoH.
Here is a better one.
How about 60 month Vets not having to pay for new content?
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At 60 months we could cancel our subs and continue playing for free? I don't think they'd go for that considering their profit model.|
Originally Posted by Cinder_Flux
Here is a better one.
How about 60 month Vets not having to pay for new content? |
Or are you whining about Going Rogue costing money?
For your 15 bucks a month you get access to the live servers and we're about to get a major graphics update.
After that, if you choose not to get GR, you'll get the joy of watching all your friends have fun with the new crap while you're stuck without side switching, Praetoria, dual pistols and demon summoning.
Should GR have been part of normal content updates? Honestly? Yes, I think it should have been. Same goes for all the goody packs.
I've already bought them all except the valkyrie pack, regardless of that opinion. Why? Because my one month subscription to this game costs me the same as 3.5 lattes.
Be well, people of CoH.
My 2nd account just got the nemesis staff last week. Joy!
My main account just leapfrogged from 57 month to 69 month vet last week, thanks to their new calculation system. And you know what? I haven't even played a character in that time who was low enough level to benefit from this 60-month thing. And there's a good chance that the next time I do, I might not even remember or realize I can fly at level 6. Especially since I can ninja run before that.
It takes me, what? 4 hours, 8 at most to get to level 14? Maybe 2-3 evenings of play at the worst. A good sewer team will get you to 8 in about an hour, and you can hit 10 by the time you've run a few missions in King's Row and grabbed your raptor pack.
Play a Peacebringer, you can fly at level 1. 
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I was not talking about our subscriptions being free.
Yes I was talking about GR.
I just thought that the idea of CoX was that you did not have to pay for updates was part of the game. Thats the way it had been for 6 years now.
Sure CoV was a stand alone game, then they included it with CoH. However neither of them did you have to pay for more issues or powersets.
Khelds came out for free, sure you had to have a 50 to unlock it, so what?
Then VEATS came out, same deal had to have a 50 but you did not have to pay for those powersets.
The Devs said that it was a bad idea for having unlockable extra powersets, well now you have to unlock them with your wallet.
Not only for the new content but for just regular powersets that are not even epic.
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You will not need GR to continue playing the game. You will continue to get free issue updates even if you do not purchase GR. They do not charge us for all new content, no, but CoV was exactly the same way: additional optional content at a cost. I see nothing wrong with a paid expansion every now and again, especially when it comes on top of free content, instead of in place of it.
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Originally Posted by Cinder_Flux
I was not talking about our subscriptions being free.
Yes I was talking about GR. I just thought that the idea of CoX was that you did not have to pay for updates was part of the game. Thats the way it had been for 6 years now. Sure CoV was a stand alone game, then they included it with CoH. However neither of them did you have to pay for more issues or powersets. Khelds came out for free, sure you had to have a 50 to unlock it, so what? Then VEATS came out, same deal had to have a 50 but you did not have to pay for those powersets. The Devs said that it was a bad idea for having unlockable extra powersets, well now you have to unlock them with your wallet. Not only for the new content but for just regular powersets that are not even epic. |
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Eventually GR will be given to everyone as part of the game just as CoV was. And there will be plenty of people griping about it. Just as there was when CoV was bundled in.
I won't be griping about it just as I didn't gripe about it with CoV. Why? Because I will have had access to it for a couple years before that happens.
Be well, people of CoH.
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And thats EXACTLY why this suggestion is so much fail.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
You acting as if the current 60 month vets would feel cheated. I don't understand that.
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Im sorry, it is. Do I have the 60 month award? No. Do I want it? Hell yes! Whats its cost? 60 months in subscriptions. See? You already CAN buy it. End of problem! Everyones happy!
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There seems to be several threads wanting to be able to buy VET powers. I certainly hope that this will never happen. These VET rewards are for our loyalty to this game for so many years and not how much money we could plunk down all at one time.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
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How about no. |
The people with extra money to throw around should be VERY happy with their Ultra-graphics went it goes live. Many of us will not have access to Ultra-graphics any time soon - regardless of how long we have played CoH.
And, yeah, as a 60+ vet, I would feel very cheated at the DEVs sold-out my loyalty appreciation VET status to anyone that was willing to pay - especially for a reward that was given to me because I'd been loyal to the game for 5 YEARS!
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Why is my suggestion a big problem for you then?
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
I won't be griping about it just as I didn't gripe about it with CoV. Why? Because I will have had access to it for a couple years before that happens.
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Re-read my suggestion.|
Originally Posted by The_Alt_oholic
And, yeah, as a 60+ vet, I would feel very cheated at the DEVs sold-out my loyalty appreciation VET status to anyone that was willing to pay - especially for a reward that was given to me because I'd been loyal to the game for 5 YEARS!
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No current 60 month vet should feel cheated because...
A. They get a new reward put in place of the existing 60 Month Vet Reward.
B. They keep their previous 60 Month reward. Basically...they just don't have to pay for the new power pack.
The only people who should feel anything...are those currently non-60 Month vets.
That's where my suggestion fails.
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Fixed. No times infinity plus one.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
my suggestion fails.
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My second account still has over 15 months to get to the 60 month vet reward, and it honestly doesn't bother me one bit. As others have said, I've already played the game for 5 years without the little perk, and it's really not as useful as you're making it out to be.
Air Superiority, Hover, Combat Jumping, Hasten and Recall Friend are all very useful powers.
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Yes because I know quite a few people that are looking forward to getting the 60 month reward, but are patient enough to wait for it. Your suggestion would force them to pay real money for something they will eventually get for free. |
Originally Posted by Vitality
The only people who should feel anything...are those currently non-60 Month vets.
That's where my suggestion fails. |
This is a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by Snow Globe
Yes because I know quite a few people that are looking forward to getting the 60 month reward, but are patient enough to wait for it. Your suggestion would force them to pay real money for something they will eventually get for free.
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One big thing I overlooked.
However, you say they are patient...I say something else.
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Bill, I would whip out my card and pay for that faster than my kitty can steal my roasted chicken...and she is fast.|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
Edit: Now if you want to suggest a "super in shape" paid for pack that lets us skip boxing/kick and still get tough/weave, I'm all for that.
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Because you're already going to get the current 60 month vet reward for "free" at 60 months. You're request is a waste of developer time and will create even more bad will amongst some of the player base.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
Why is my suggestion a big problem for you then?
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You get to wait just like those that chose not to purchase CoV got to wait and get it for free.
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Be well, people of CoH.
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"chose not to purchase...got to wait and get it for free"|
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
You get to wait just like those that chose not to purchase CoV got to wait and get it for free.
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Why do you have a problem with my suggestion again?
I see why my suggestion fails...but all the points you're trying to make against my suggestion...actually help my suggestion.
With CoV...some people purchased it right away...some people waited patiently until they got it for free.
I see no difference with this reward...some people purchased it right away...some people waited patiently until they got it for free.
You've already seen why your suggestion fails: It screws those that don't have it yet and want to get it for free. It's a waste of developer time. It will annoy a great many people.
Being able to buy a perk that lets us skip boxing/kick and get tough/weave is as stupid as buying a pack to get stamina without taking swift or hurdle and health.
Would I buy those packs? Hell yes. That doesn't mean it's not a stupid suggestion.
Be well, people of CoH.
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Because, in action, it's completely backwards from that sentence.|
Originally Posted by Vitality
I see no difference with this reward...some people purchased it right away...some people waited patiently until they got it for free.
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The people who have it had to wait to earn it, with no other options. There's a reason that it's a Vet reward; it's a carrot meant to throw players who have been around for a long time a bone (and again, it's not the crazy useful reward that some people make it out to be) and to keep others interested in it long enough so that they'll subscribe for 60 months.
I tell you what, I'll support your idea if you agree to market it for $900--the cost of 60 months of game subscription at the monthly billing rate. That $900 doesn't include ANY game subscription time, but it will automatically bump you up to the 60 month vet status. The price remains the same whether you're a brand new subscriber or if you're a 59 month subscriber. I think that sounds fair.
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Would I buy those packs? Hell yes. That doesn't mean it's not a stupid suggestion.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!
I hadn't even been paying attention to this. Sixty months is when you get to skip the travel prerequisites. OMG OMG OMG! I'm just 30 days away!
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This is saying that you only paid for that much time JUST for that one Vet Reward. Which I hope no one has done.|
Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man
I tell you what, I'll support your idea if you agree to market it for $900--the cost of 60 months of game subscription at the monthly billing rate. That $900 doesn't include ANY game subscription time, but it will automatically bump you up to the 60 month vet status. The price remains the same whether you're a brand new subscriber or if you're a 59 month subscriber. I think that sounds fair.
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Either way...I have already stated that I know why my suggestion doesn't work.
I was just pointed something out.
So in other words you want a Pay-To veteran reward. There's a discussion about paid vet rewards already going in Suggestions. Doesn't matter that you only want one reward to be made paid. The arguments are the same.
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It's just this has been going on since they gave us vet rewards and I hate re-runs.
You should have experienced the joy of the Atlas Park safeguard Raptor Pack (Issue 8)before the Hollows' revamp (Issue 12). Now that was really something.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.