The thing I found interesting, that I think people might have glanced past... when Positron asked "Can I tell them about no more war walls" and someone told him "no", I don't think he was just talking about Praetoria....
I'm thinking that there might not be an actual reason to have war walls anymore. I mean, the Rikti always get in, and if they set each area to zone you into another zone... there really would be no need for them anymore.
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Originally Posted by Commander
The thing I found interesting, that I think people might have glanced past... when Positron asked "Can I tell them about no more war walls" and someone told him "no", I don't think he was just talking about Praetoria....
I'm thinking that there might not be an actual reason to have war walls anymore. I mean, the Rikti always get in, and if they set each area to zone you into another zone... there really would be no need for them anymore. |
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That would be nice. I wonder if they're going to just open it up entirely, say the entire north side of Kings Row is the entrance for Galaxy City or still make you find the spot where the tunnel was in order to move between zones. Seems like dropping the walls themselves and leaving some sort of tunnel or gate would be simpler to implement.
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Originally Posted by Commander
The thing I found interesting, that I think people might have glanced past... when Positron asked "Can I tell them about no more war walls" and someone told him "no", I don't think he was just talking about Praetoria....
I'm thinking that there might not be an actual reason to have war walls anymore. I mean, the Rikti always get in, and if they set each area to zone you into another zone... there really would be no need for them anymore. |
Oh geez. I would love it if Paragon City finally got rid of those terrible War Walls. 
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Originally Posted by Commander
The thing I found interesting, that I think people might have glanced past... when Positron asked "Can I tell them about no more war walls" and someone told him "no", I don't think he was just talking about Praetoria....
I'm thinking that there might not be an actual reason to have war walls anymore. I mean, the Rikti always get in, and if they set each area to zone you into another zone... there really would be no need for them anymore. |
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The issue with removing the war walls entirely would be that what we see of one war wall doesn't back directly onto the war wall on the other side. There's a lot of city in between what we know as city zones. I cannot remember if these buildings are residential or destroyed (I know they appear fine when you look through the war walls), but they'd have to add that in. Between all of the zones.
Also, I don't know where hazard zones fall in all of this. While war walls don't exist to contain them, we'd probably have to keep the solid part of the wall at least. It helps enforce who can get in and who can't.
I don't really know how I'd feel about the war walls coming down. It would be a big enough change to get some kind of opinion out of me, of course. But I've grown fond of them, and haven't ever seen the issue that other people seem to have with them.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I don't really know how I'd feel about the war walls coming down. It would be a big enough change to get some kind of opinion out of me, of course. But I've grown fond of them, and haven't ever seen the issue that other people seem to have with them.
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Take Peregrine (or the Rogue)Isle(s) for example. There's no sudden giant wall visually blocking you from the edge(though, the Rogue Isles do have walls that appear when you reach an edge), it looks more open, even though you know there's a boundary, it doesn't readily look like there is.
It's entirely an aesthetic thing to me.
I find it functionally appealing, myself. Given the relative same-ness of urban environments, it can help a lot, especially for new players. I remember playing MxO and walking into the "bad" part of town (ie, everything was level "I keeel you") more often than I'd like to admit.
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Yeah, but they can accomplish the same thing in the Rogue Isles. Areas are still blocked off, it just doesn't look like it until you reach the edge.
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I find it functionally appealing, myself. Given the relative same-ness of urban environments, it can help a lot, especially for new players. I remember playing MxO and walking into the "bad" part of town (ie, everything was level "I keeel you") more often than I'd like to admit.
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There's actually no boundary between Peregrine and Talos.
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Originally Posted by ThePill
I don't have a huge issue with them, but they do seem like they're only there to establish zones and boundaries. More than anything else, it kind of mars the skyline.
Take Peregrine (or the Rogue)Isle(s) for example. There's no sudden giant wall visually blocking you from the edge(though, the Rogue Isles do have walls that appear when you reach an edge), it looks more open, even though you know there's a boundary, it doesn't readily look like there is. It's entirely an aesthetic thing to me. |
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There's one specific reason I love the war walls.|
Originally Posted by ThePill
I don't have a huge issue with them, but they do seem like they're only there to establish zones and boundaries. More than anything else, it kind of mars the skyline.
Take Peregrine (or the Rogue)Isle(s) for example. There's no sudden giant wall visually blocking you from the edge(though, the Rogue Isles do have walls that appear when you reach an edge), it looks more open, even though you know there's a boundary, it doesn't readily look like there is. It's entirely an aesthetic thing to me. |
Go to Baumton and fly fairly higher then most of the burned buildings. Wait, and as the sun begins the set, the war walls slowly turn into a brighter and more vibrant orange. Sure, it looks like the city is on fire, but the color is SO amazingly pretty.
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There kind of is, in that you just start loading the new zone when you reach the edge.
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There's actually no boundary between Peregrine and Talos.
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Originally Posted by Commander
The thing I found interesting, that I think people might have glanced past... when Positron asked "Can I tell them about no more war walls" and someone told him "no", I don't think he was just talking about Praetoria....
I'm thinking that there might not be an actual reason to have war walls anymore. I mean, the Rikti always get in, and if they set each area to zone you into another zone... there really would be no need for them anymore. |
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Someone got a video of Kinetic melee uploaded.
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I very much doubt that - I think it's way more likely they're going to refocus bases as social and PvE things, rather than the customizable PvP maps with storage and TP extras that we have now.
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Very neat concept, but I figure the demo is about as close as we'll ever get to seeing it used in-game. You could do some awesome things with that in the realm of gaming though.
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that really depends there are a few games nothing major that use this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNu4CluFOcw i dont think that these games are even out yet but will see it could end up like the virtual reality stuff.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
The issue with removing the war walls entirely would be that what we see of one war wall doesn't back directly onto the war wall on the other side. There's a lot of city in between what we know as city zones. I cannot remember if these buildings are residential or destroyed (I know they appear fine when you look through the war walls), but they'd have to add that in. Between all of the zones.
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For example, move Atlas and Skyway a little more to the north, so they'd fit better with Perez, Steel and Kings Row.
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So that looks more like weird martial arts ki-blast than telekinetic blast, and more knockdown than knockback. Not that I'm complaining really. Looks like fun.
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Someone got a video of Kinetic melee uploaded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQPqPwayfI
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