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Two Loyalist zones, 1 neutral and one resistance zone, probably? Devs hate the Resistance, I guess |
Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
Praetoria zones are 'Nova Praetoria', 'Imperial City', 'Neutropolis', and 'The Underground'. Nova Praetoria is apparently where Emperor Cole hangs out.
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| Besides groups we already knew about like the praetorian police, clockwork, resistance, seers, syndicate, and ghouls, there will be another enemy revealed this summer. |
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| Statement that 'all ten basic ATs get a new powerset with this expansion' - if they're counting dual pistols and demon summoning, those two plus kinetic melee and electric control cover everyone, so that does *not* necessarily mean more powerset proliferation. |
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| Issue 19 is 'Incarnates'. The 'incarnate system' is 10 'incarnate levels'. The first level will be available in GR, along with at least some 'incarnate abilities'. The other 9 levels, more abilities, 'new rewards, new zone events, and the "end game system"' will be in issue 19. Are the 'incarnate levels' the end game system or not? GR will be required to play the end game system, so that suggests that the end game system would be separate from the incarnate levels thing. |
One possibility is that if it's connected to Pandora's Box being opened, which would explain how we'd suddenly get acces to the Incarnate levels, the new zone events might invovle fighting enemy or rogue Incarnates, who'd be created by the opening of the Box in the same way we'd get the new levels and powers - like we'd have to fight rampaging Incarnate Villains and their goons.
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| Praetorian hamidon is contained, not defeated, and we won't see him, 'at least not yet'. |
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| War witch says that they do revisit old zones sometimes, but only when it makes sense - they like making new zones a lot more. |
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| Stories that mention praetoria will get updated in i19 'to reflect the events that happen in Praetoria between now and then'. |
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| There are other new powersets "on the whiteboard" for future use (blogger used the term 'future expansions', but we don't know if a dev actually used those words), includes 'staff use'. |
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Ok, following up on that - the new zone events are the content that we do to unlock the Incarnate stuff - so it sounds like the endgame system will be played out in the current zones, rather than being part of any new endgame zone.
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Sorry so shaky - here's the new GR info. Didn't realize there was thread here, too
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1l0-2qqElY |
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While there is no longer any in-game reason, nor any compelling code reason, to have the War Walls there, don't expect them to actually go away. "No more war walls" is a running joke going back at least as far as issue 9, it doesn't mean that they're ever going to do it. Sorry to rain on your parade, but if nothing else, consider this: every lead developer in the history of the game, including War Witch, has said that it's a huge effort to revise existing maps. Well, go look at any of the map sites like VidiotMaps.com and try, just try, to fit those zones together into a seamless whole. It can't be done. They'd have to revise the (multi-word expletive) out of every single map in Paragon City to get the puzzle pieces to fit. Does that seem at all likely to you?
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Originally Posted by Commander
The thing I found interesting, that I think people might have glanced past... when Positron asked "Can I tell them about no more war walls" and someone told him "no", I don't think he was just talking about Praetoria....
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A little trimming here, a little filling there and they'd fit perfectly - it's not nearly as difficult as you're making it out to be |
Originally Posted by InfamousBrad
Well, go look at any of the map sites like VidiotMaps.com and try, just try, to fit those zones together into a seamless whole. It can't be done. They'd have to revise the (multi-word expletive) out of every single map in Paragon City to get the puzzle pieces to fit. Does that seem at all likely to you?
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This is just what I was thinking!
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Originally Posted by Furio
um...HA-DU-KEN!
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:S Four Praetorian zones. I doubt there's any kind of restriction on where people can go.|
Originally Posted by Golden Girl
Two Loyalist zones, 1 neutral and one resistance zone, probably? Devs hate the Resistance, I guess
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| Ok, following up on that - the new zone events are the content that we do to unlock the Incarnate stuff - so it sounds like the endgame system will be played out in the current zones, rather than being part of any new endgame zone. |
Bad Voodoo by @Beyond Reach. Arc ID #373659. Level 20-24. Mr. Bocor has fallen victim to a group of hooded vigilantes who have been plaguing Port Oakes, interfering with illegal operations and pacifying villain's powers. He demands that revenge is taken on these miscreants and his powers are returned! You look like just the villain for the job. Challenging.
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But some areas might seem to be freidnlier to one side rather than the other |
Originally Posted by BeyondReach
:S Four Praetorian zones. I doubt there's any kind of restriction on where people can go.
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Like if you're one of Tyrant's thugs then Nova Praetoria and Imperial City are probably less dangerous for you than the Underground
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| Why? There are zones in Praetoria. Incarnate is GR exclusive. Events that happen out in the open for everyone to take part in. I draw the conclusion that the zone events will be in Praetoria. |
Not that the location really matters - Incarnates are coming, and that's the main thing
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It certianly sounds to me like behind the closed doors and hidden from the public, the Loyalists and Resistance are constantly at war, so I doubt they'll both be able to go everywhere unless undercover. I'm also expecting the underground to be quite big, perhaps like our sewer system. So it may not be as unbalanced as it sounds. Just less shiny.|
Originally Posted by BeyondReach
:S Four Praetorian zones. I doubt there's any kind of restriction on where people can go.
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| Why? There are zones in Praetoria. Incarnate is GR exclusive. Events that happen out in the open for everyone to take part in. I draw the conclusion that the zone events will be in Praetoria. |
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If they're going with their overground/underground theme, then I'm expecting a lot of tunnels under the zone maps - so that even in Nova Praetroia, Resistance members could get to mission doors via the tunnel system without having to aggro the Praetorian Police mobs on every street corner above ground.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
It certianly sounds to me like behind the closed doors and hidden from the public, the Loyalists and Resistance are constantly at war, so I doubt they'll both be able to go everywhere unless undercover. I'm also expecting the underground to be quite big, perhaps like our sewer system. So it may not be as unbalanced as it sounds. Just less shiny.
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This means I finally can have [Zeus Lightning]. I'm so giddy inside i dunno what to do >.>
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It is nipple-poppingly exciting - even more than the I17 announcement |
Originally Posted by Jacks Assortment
This means I finally can have [Zeus Lightning]. I'm so giddy inside i dunno what to do >.>
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GR just sounds better and better all the time
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This is all amazing news!!!!.....This is why I love this game and have been here over 66 months...the way that this game has evolved has been truly been something else....great stuff!!!!!
"A great love is alot like a good memory. When it's there and you know it's there,but it's just out of your reach. It can be all that you think about. You can focus on it and try to force it but the more you do, the more you seem to push it away. But if you're patient and hold still...maybe...just maybe...it will come to you. I just need to be somewhere she can find me" - Church from Red vs Blue
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It doesn't necessarily mean that, but it does open up the odds of us getting some cool new powers.|
Originally Posted by Jacks Assortment
This means I finally can have [Zeus Lightning]. I'm so giddy inside i dunno what to do >.>
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Honestly, I hope most are autos or toggles. I don't think I have any toons that need more attacks.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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There's one thing I don't get....
On one of the screen in the above video, there was a line that said "Going Rogue Closed Beta start next week for Family and Friends."
How can GR go into closed beta next week when we are still in i17 closed beta?
In the Arena of Logic, I fight unarmed.
While I perfectly understand from a coding/manpower perspective, I sort of have to shake my head at the fact that pre existing Praetorian content won't be updated until several months after GR. You'd think that would be the kind of thing that coincides such an update.
Several months might be pushing it Positron has been working on the endgame system for a while now, virtually all the time, leaving the bosswork to War Witch. I think it's just a case of "K, we want GR out 'here', well, we're not gonna have the whole of the endgame sorted out by then! Just put it in a post-expansion Issue a month or so later" The time between Issues is indeterminate.
Bad Voodoo by @Beyond Reach. Arc ID #373659. Level 20-24. Mr. Bocor has fallen victim to a group of hooded vigilantes who have been plaguing Port Oakes, interfering with illegal operations and pacifying villain's powers. He demands that revenge is taken on these miscreants and his powers are returned! You look like just the villain for the job. Challenging.
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
While I perfectly understand from a coding/manpower perspective, I sort of have to shake my head at the fact that pre existing Praetorian content won't be updated until several months after GR. You'd think that would be the kind of thing that coincides such an update.
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Originally Posted by BeyondReach
Several months might be pushing it
Positron has been working on the endgame system for a while now, virtually all the time, leaving the bosswork to War Witch. I think it's just a case of "K, we want GR out 'here', well, we're not gonna have the whole of the endgame sorted out by then! Just put it in a post-expansion Issue a month or so later" The time between Issues is indeterminate. |
Related Article Involving Incarnates, Electricity Control and Kinetic Melee
I posted it to my Facebook page, figured I'd share this here
I wonder what a kinetic melee Assassin Strike would look like?
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His idea that the late-game Praetorian arcs would be revamped a few months later I assume was based on the idea that Issue 19 would be coming a few months later. I was pointing out that that may not be quite the case.
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Originally Posted by StormSurvivor
I believe he's talking about the late-game Praetorian Arcs that we've had since around issue one. I must say, I totally agree with him. I had my fingers crossed that we'd at least get the Praetorians' models updated in issue seventeen as a sort of teaser.
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Bad Voodoo by @Beyond Reach. Arc ID #373659. Level 20-24. Mr. Bocor has fallen victim to a group of hooded vigilantes who have been plaguing Port Oakes, interfering with illegal operations and pacifying villain's powers. He demands that revenge is taken on these miscreants and his powers are returned! You look like just the villain for the job. Challenging.
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Originally Posted by Gulver
There's one thing I don't get....
On one of the screen in the above video, there was a line that said "Going Rogue Closed Beta start next week for Family and Friends." How can GR go into closed beta next week when we are still in i17 closed beta? |
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Originally Posted by BeyondReach
His idea that the late-game Praetorian arcs would be revamped a few months later I assume was based on the idea that Issue 19 would be coming a few months later. I was pointing out that that may not be quite the case.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1l0-2qqElY