How Many Really Use the Valut Room or Vault Reserve?


Ad Astra

 

Posted

As I was hopping through Pocket D, I just happened to wander into the Vault Room. I had to ask myself, "why I never used the Vault?". My first thought was if I plopped a bunch of Invention Salvage in the Vault, and then signed on with another toon on the same server, would I still have access to the Salvage from my other toon who put it there? Me thinks no as the inventory is exclusive to that toon only.

My second question would be when do you think it would be advantageous to plop stuff in the Vault? I guess if you were crafting recipes for enhancements and such, it might be a good place to store the extra goodies? Also, since we are only given a limited slot inventory to hold this stuff, I am also thinking this would make a good "back-up" storage spot. My market philosophy so far has been to sell the items I don't need, or use the items to build some new invention sets that I can sell for a nice profit. Thus, I am constantly "moving" stuff around at the markets.

So, in a nutshell, can anyone give me some other beneficial tips on using the vault reserve other than just holding your goodies? If my other toons had access to the same vault then I would start to really re-think this one. Paragonwiki really didn't go into too much detail except to mention the amount of spaces you would get with each level. They also mentioned a "Physical Vault Building", one on the Hero side and one on the Villain side which I cannot recall ever seeing. Did they remove the Vault Buildings and just keep them in Pocket D?







 

Posted

There are Vault buildings red and blue side. I frequent the ones in CAD and Talos due to their locations near the Wentworth's / Black Market.

I mostly use these for storing expensive, rare salvage for recipes. If I have a surplus of one type, I can sell it to offset the cost of bidding on what I need.


 

Posted

There's a Vault in every city zone that has a Wentworth's, I believe. They're marked as green dots on your map.

I use mine for storing orange (rare) salvage and sell of the whites and yellows unless I know I'll need one or it's semi-valuable. But it's nice to get a recipe drop and realize that the 2,000,000 inf salvage piece you need for it is sitting in the vault.

Storage racks in superbases serve the same purpose although they may not be "secure" if you're worried about only you getting to use your stored salvage. Great for trading it with other characters though.


 

Posted

I've used the vaults in the past, when crafting for myself. I mostly just assembly line for cash and load my toons with SOs.

The Atlas Vault is near the sewer entrance, to the left of it. if you were going down the sidewalk that runs past Went's and AE, and kept going that way, it would be the second building...hmm...Well, it's on your map anyway.

SC's is very close to Wents. Head out the back and run on the wall-side of the buildings behind it toward the train. You'll see it.

They are all the same, so if you put stuff in Atlas it will be in SC.

I just wish there was a place to store enh and recipes.


 

Posted

All my toons use the Vault Reserve almost as soon as they start picking up salvage. It's an extra place to store salvage for later use in crafting enhancements so I don't have to keep buying what I need from the market or waiting for new drops.

It is toon specific. There's a Vault Reserve building in a number of zones, and the location is marked on the in-game map. Paragonwiki should have a list of zones that have them.


 

Posted

I'll start using them when the devs change them to be account based storage for enhancements, recipes, inspirations and inf.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

Posted

I mostly use it for storing rare salvage that I might want later. Common and Uncommon salvage I dump in my SG's base racks unless I have an immediate need for it.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
I'll start using them when the devs change them to be account based storage for enhancements, recipes, inspirations and inf.
It would break the game.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusion_7 View Post
So, in a nutshell, can anyone give me some other beneficial tips on using the vault reserve other than just holding your goodies?
I think you answered you own question.


Anyway, except for 1 character, all of mine use the Vaults to some extent.


Head of TRICK, the all Trick Arrow and Traps SG
Part of the
Repeat Offenders

Still waiting for his Official BackAlleyBrawler No-Prize

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Postagulous View Post
It would break the game.
Horse manure.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

Posted

I believe the vault reserve also links to in-base secure salvage storage (the big vault looking thing).

Account wide recipe/enhancement/salvage WOULD be really nice.


 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Postagulous View Post
It would break the game.
I'm curious how it would break the game?

I think about the fact that players can trade with each other and wonder how being able to trade with myself would somehow be any different?

I always liked having account-wide storage available to my characters in Guildwars.


 

Posted

All of my toons use the Vault to one extent or another for storing excess salvage.

I place lower bids early in the toon's career and just wait for them to eventually fill.

Then I put the salvage away in the vault until I actually need it. That way I can usually

avoid most of the "buy it now" overpricing.

Of course, I use the vault access in my base and not the vault reserve buildings (or Pocket-D)

The base access and the reserve buildings/pocket-D access are the same storage area.


6000+ levels gained and 8 level 50's
Hello, my name is Soulwind and I have Alt-Itis.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Of_Misery View Post
I believe the vault reserve also links to in-base secure salvage storage (the big vault looking thing).
Yep, the vault in the SG base holds the same items as vaults in the city zones.

I have a solo SG and use my base vault to hold all rare salvage for enhancement crafting on all my alts. When I need a particular piece of salvage and the toon with the recipe doesn't have it, I log the appropriate toon, take it out of the vault, put it in a salvage rack, log the recipe holding toon, take it out of the salvage rack, craft recipe, and voila! I've saved some influence (usually quite a bit).

There's not a rare piece of salvage that I don't have stored somewhere on some toon. I used to use AE tickets for purchasing them but 540 tickets each was a little steep IMO. Now I just use tickets for uncommon salvage when necessary and I can't find it dirt cheap in Wentworth's.


 

Posted

I use the Vaults all the time. Although, I seldom use the Vaults out in the City. I mostly use the Vault appearance in my Bases since they're closer to the Invention table that are also in my Bases.

I use the Storage Racks in my (personal) Bases to hold the expensive IO Salvage, which can then by accessed by any of my characters. Of course, the Storage Rack can only hold 30 pieces, so any extras go into the Vault. I also keep a small supply of non-rare, yet occasionally hard to come by, commonly used IO salvage.

Most of the time each of my Character's Vault is full. I don't see any point in not keeping it full. IO Salvage periodically spike up in price and often times, I'm not aware of it until I read it on the forums or I need it for crafting. I'm too much of a cheapskate to pay buy-it-now prices, so having a few on hand reduces wait time.


Teams are the number one killer of soloists.

 

Posted

I only use the vault to store salvage needed for empowerment buffs, since the price on some of them can fluctuate wildly at times.

Since I have my own solo base, I don't have need of it to store rare salvage. It would be very inconvenient to have to be crafting on one character, only to find I'd have to log into another in order to get a specific piece of salvage. At that point I'd just get it at the buy it NAO price instead.


Global @StarGeek
ParagonWiki.com-The original is still the best!
My Hero Merit rolls
Accuracy needed for 95% ToHit spreadsheet
Forum font change stripper for Firefox/Opera/Chrome. No more dealing with poor color choices, weird fonts or microscopic text
Search Wiki Patch notes, add site:ParagonWiki.com inurl:patch_notes to your Google Search

 

Posted

I have used the vaults in the past.

These days all my characters treat the market as a storage device.

I sell salavge 'near' the top end of the range, and buy it later if needed at a 'patient' price, so usually I even gain inf by 'storing' on the market.



@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
I'll start using them when the devs change them to be account based storage for enhancements, recipes, inspirations and inf.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Postagulous View Post
It would break the game.
The salvage storage racks in personal bases work exactly like this supposed game-breaking mechanic.


WRT the OP: When I first started outfitting all my high level toons with IO sets, I definitely used the personal vaults to hold onto every bit of salvage I could. Now that they're IO'd out, the salvage storage racks in my personal base is sufficient to hold my rare salvage. I do sell off any rare salvage I already have 2 of.


Speeding Through New DA Repeatables || Spreadsheet o' Enhancements || Zombie Skins: better skins for these forums || Guide to Guides

 

Posted

I stopped using them when I had a SG base and salvage racks.

I started using them again when I ran out of space on the storage racks.

Quote:
The salvage storage racks in personal bases work exactly like this supposed game-breaking mechanic.
There is a slight difference. There is an inherent risk in using the SG racks in that anybody with a rank permission can access a rank locked storage container. You can partially minimize the risk by limiting the ranked permissions and the players in each rank. While the purpose can be used in a similar manner, to share items between avatars on the same account, since you absolutely need a second player to invite your avatars to the SG, and promote your avatars, there is a slight chance of risk.

Although yes, you can eliminate the risk by having two accounts. I think the devs are fine with the cost of another game purchase and the cost of at least one month of subscription offsetting the... ahem... exploit.


 

Posted

I mainly use the Vault when I log onto a character I haven't played in a while to join a TF, say Citadel, for example, and I discover that I haven't sold off all the salvage that dropped on the last TF - oops!

So I go dump stuff that I will want to keep in the conveniently located Vault in Talos, to be picked up after I finish the new TF.

Yes, I frequently don't immediately go deal with the drops I get on each & every alt - sometimes, I am ready to log off (long day of play), sometimes, I'm just being lazy. But with 60+ alts, I frequently store salvage on the character to be used by my crafters for each SG (I have 5 in all). I'm sure that made someone twitch when they read it


Altoholic - but a Blaster at Heart!

Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon

"You gave us a world where we could fly. I can't thank you enough for that."

 

Posted

So wait, you're saying the reason we can't have personal storage is because there's no risk vs reward?


Quote:
Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU View Post
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
So wait, you're saying the reason we can't have personal storage is because there's no risk vs reward?
yes / no / not really.

I suspect that there was a risk / reward factor involved when the SG base storage was put together. I don't actually know that for certain. It just seems like the most logical reasoning that I can piece together based on how the system works and how the development team was behaving at the time of inception.


 

Posted

I use the Vault a lot, mainly to store invention salvage drops that I know I will be using shortly to craft the common IOs I'm planning to slot at level 12 and 27. Well the ones that are currently going for a pretty penny at the market.


Father Xmas - Level 50 Ice/Ice Tanker - Victory
$725 and $1350 parts lists --- My guide to computer components

Tempus unum hominem manet

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba View Post
I'll start using them when the devs change them to be account based storage for enhancements, recipes, inspirations and inf.
Wait. You refuse to use a useful feature of the game, because it does not do exactly what you want it to do? I have a lot of respect for you Bill, but that is really silly.


Justice Blues, Tech/Tank, Inv/SS
----------------------
Fighting The Future Trilogy
----------------------

 

Posted

Quote:
Originally Posted by je_saist View Post
Quote:
The salvage storage racks in personal bases work exactly like this supposed game-breaking mechanic.
There is a slight difference. There is an inherent risk in using the SG racks in that anybody with a rank permission can access a rank locked storage container.
You missed the part where I said a 'personal base.' No other members to steal from it. Such situations is almost exactly like an account based Vault, except the Vault would be easier to manage, but the personal base can hold more.


Speeding Through New DA Repeatables || Spreadsheet o' Enhancements || Zombie Skins: better skins for these forums || Guide to Guides