TFs and Ouro nerfed on test to EZmode
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Posted on: 2009-09-25 24:29 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Your point? The standard trash is still +0/+1 on test. Its been tested.
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Originally Posted by Oya
Then again, we could read the patch notes for test and not have nerd rage.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
Your point? The standard trash is still +0/+1 on test. Its been tested.
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So the only options for TF's are those found when selecting an Ouro mish? ie buffed enemies, debuffed you, etc?
And you can't increase enemy level beyond default +0/1?
What about people that like fighting a sea of reds/purples on a specially formed Task Force Team? You know a team that has been designed to fight the toughest challenges the game offers?
Forgive me, but shutting off my ability to use inspirations and buffing even con enemies is not the same as jacking them up to +3. Even if the end result of difficulty is about the same fighting whites and yellows doesn't "feel" nearly as awesome (especially on a Task Force Team) nor do they reward commensurate with the difficulty as +cons do.
I personally want more challenge, but I personally want to be adequately and fairly rewarded for said challenge. That's why the Ouro settings were auto fail for me and from the sounds of it new TF's are going to be auto fail.
Unless I'm not reading it accurately, then please feel free to correct me.
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You are reading correctly and this has been verified on test. It was in the Test Server Patch Notes for 9/24.
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Originally Posted by Frosticus
So the only options for TF's are those found when selecting an Ouro mish? ie buffed enemies, debuffed you, etc?
And you can't increase enemy level beyond default +0/1? What about people that like fighting a sea of reds/purples on a specially formed Task Force Team? You know a team that has been designed to fight the toughest challenges the game offers? Forgive me, but shutting off my ability to use inspirations and buffing even con enemies is not the same as jacking them up to +3. Even if the end result of difficulty is about the same fighting whites and yellows doesn't "feel" nearly as awesome (especially on a Task Force Team) nor do they reward commensurate with the difficulty as +cons do. I personally want more challenge, but I personally want to be adequately and fairly rewarded for said challenge. That's why the Ouro settings were auto fail for me and from the sounds of it new TF's are going to be auto fail. Unless I'm not reading it accurately, then please feel free to correct me. |
What task force difficulty options are you talking about Kit K?
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why should we be?
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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Hopefully phase 2 of this fix is to add +level difficulty options in the TF challenge settings.
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It's kind of annoying, because I have a bunch of Ouro badges left on my MM badger and I was hoping to put a decent dent in the next Infamy badge at the same time, but eh, I'll live. It'll take me a while to do all those Flashbacks and there might be other changes in the meantime.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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I'm not.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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I'm only sad about the bosses being demoted to LTs when soloing Ouro.
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No. It's very obviously a bandaid fix that is going to be refined once they have the time to do it.|
Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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Besides, getting mad would be an overreaction regardless.
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Im sure I should be, but I dont know why.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
Added restrictions to prevent player difficulty from affecting Task / Strike Forces
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Maybe it's an outrageous slap in the face?
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Yes. But is it a slap in the face?
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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And besides, I run TFs for badges, costume parts, and merits. Last I checked, difficulty level of said TF wasn't tied to any of those. And barring specifically-mentioned Invincible runs, I can't recall a TF team I've ever been on exclaiming that the difficulty should be turned up. As a matter of fact, most of the time, it's been the opposite: "Sorry guys, I forgot I was running on Invincible. I'll turn the difficulty down after this mission." And if someone actually asks if there's a difficulty preference among the group, the usual answer is "I don't care." And neither do I, really. Certainly not enough to be mad about it.
Now, I'd like it if we could keep our difficulty settings for Ouroboros stuff, but I understand that there are technical issues keeping this from being possible. As such, I'm content to wait for a solution to this. And if it never comes, so be it. Outside of going back for missed content, I use Ouroboros like I use TFs: for badges and merits. So this doesn't affect me that much.
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No, not really. Somewhat disappointed, yes, Heroic is boring. Totally understand why they're doing it though.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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Actually, I'm pleased. I don't mind doing a Strask Force at a higher difficulty level IF I'M FOREWARNED. But the overwhelming majority of S/TF leaders recruit without mentioning they're turning up the difficulty, and that's just rude.|
Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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And I'm with Kit on this: It's obvious that this is a stop-gap measure to keep people from using the new difficulty sliders from doing S/TFs at -1. It's much easier to code a shut-off for the sliders in S/TFs than to fiddle around with the slider coding itself which runs a huge risk of introducing a bug for *all* missions.
I'd like to see level and size difficulty sliders added to the S/TF interface, but, that will take time to code.
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
They could just disable the -1 difficulty setting.
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The only problem I had with TFs and the new diff settings was the nonsense of people setting to -1 on Master runs and getting those badges. Not so much because of the -1, but because it was bugged so that it was reducing the level 54 AVs all the way down to level 49. That was plain wrong.
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;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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... Nope, sorry, don't give even a tiny percentage of a crap about that.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
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i am disappointed in that i like running TF's on max occasionally for the fun, but i have confidence that this is a temporary measure. Still, i understand the change with all the people running Master of <blah> on -1, which just cheapens it. i do hope this is very temporary. Some way to disable -1 setting for TF's would do it for me. Or maybe reinstate the old difficulty for S/TF's.
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Nope, don't care. Then again, I solo an emp, so I'd never use these options anyways.|
Originally Posted by The_Coming_Storm
None of you are mad that they decided to take away the ability to fight +2/+3s in SFs and in Ouro?
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Plus the nerf is causing you to nerdrage, and I so do love to watch people get angry over nothing on the boards.
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I can't help but think that this change was more of a quickfix and not fully thought through.
For anything else, bah humbug. I might be more inclined to care, but I'm allergic to nerd rage. Sorry, nothing I can do about it.