So did the AE farm nerfs work?

I have said this before, but I believe it's not farming that the devs had a problem with, it was specifically farming in the AE. They don't have a problem with farming, and they don't have a problem with the AE, but put the two together and there is a problem.

Making a cool custom mission, with a storyline, or making a challenge for yourself, because the game seems to have gotten to easy, I think that's what the AE was for. But, even though you CAN level from 1-50 in the AE, I don't think it was meant to be the FASTEST way. In fact, probably it was meant to be slower, like you would do it only if you wanted a real challenge.

So really, the talk about "The AE is dead", I think it's just become the #2 way to level again. Or even, for the first time.

Thank goodness a major part of the game is not broken beyond reason anymore. The exploits happening in the ae building have been truly game breaking for quite some time, producing a large wave of new players who have no idea how to play the actual game outside of the ae building. To compare the massive ae EXPLOITS of late to normal hazard zone play created by the developers is the worst kind of fallacious argument, entirely without genuine logical merit.

It is very refreshing to not see newcomers to the game grabbed up upon entering the CoX world and be taught to expect to gain multiple levels from running one mission, and to make up to 50 levels per day. AE was the Winterlord fiasco exponentially multiplied, and has led to newcomers to the game having very unrealistic expectations. They think the best exp generating missions in the regular game are very unrewarding, since they consider the experience to be extremely slow after gaining several levels per mission on a regular basis.

I was extremely pleased to see mission and sewer teams forming in AP, and normal chat going on, instead of the constant broadcasts for ae boss missions as before. I was happy to see the farm broadcasts in PI instead of AP, and to see fewer of them than before. I was glad that there were two PI zones and only one AP zone. What the ae exploiters did to the AP zone was a shame. It messed up a lot of new players, and may have broken it for many of them for good, since they will expect to be able to make 50 levels in a day and may well quit when it doesn't happen. I think we have seen plenty of that already, since server populations are reduced (all servers are green now).

I seem to notice that after all of the talk I heard about "creativity" in the ae missions, that the minute the exploits are gone, there are very few people playing in the ae house now. I guess "creativity" isn't so important now. I am glad to see the game has returned to the way it was before to a large extent, because it has been severely broken for months now.

I think the main difference is that people don't usually farm the sewers.

Just saying.

Well, I'm glad to see that the nagging exploits were fixed. By exploits, I'm of course talking about the green Mitos (which were fixed just after I15 launched anyways) - all-lieutenant or all-boss missions were no more of an exploit than is stealthing to a glowie in a mission, or finishing an ITF in 20 minutes. So really, no exploits have been closed other than perhaps maps that allowed you to stack objectives and come up with truly obscene amounts of mobs in one place. The only thing that was done was to bring MA XP more in line with the content in the rest of the game. MA farming is still very much alive and well, it's not not nearly as conspicuous now since most people have gone back to normal content without realizing the MA still provides superior rewards and in most cases XP.

From a personal standpoint, hell no the "nerfs" didn't work - I'm still farming in the MA and I will continue to do so until the recipe drop rate is fixed. The rewards are only one part of the deal - as long as you're given complete control of what kinds of enemies are in your custom group and how many and what objectives there are (as well as what enemy spawns are attached to those objectives), the MA will be a better leveling tool.

You may not like it, and I'm sure I'll catch some neg rep for this, but them's the breaks: until the MA rewards are substantially lower than normal content, both in terms of drops and XP, people will farm it because it's the path of least resistance. If someone being honest and objective upsets you, you should probably just save yourselves the time and headaches and put me on ignore.

I actually was starting not to mind AE farms anymore once I realized after I began to pretty much only make my own teams (and searching for people outside of just the zone I was looking to do missions in) that a lot of the people in Atlas Park weren't only looking for AE teams since most of the people I recruited were in Atlas when I whispered them.

Still, I'm glad to see the game is slowly turning back into City of Heroes instead of Atlas Park of Heroes (for redside I guess the equivalent would be "Cap of Villains" ).

Was chatting with a few people in AP earlier and someone was talking about some 50s he met right after Issue 16 that he had to actually direct to KR and the train in Atlas because they had never left the zone and had no idea where to go...sad...

yes it worked on guardian...now theres no one in p.i. OR atlas


server merging plz

To be honest, I really don't get the concept of doorsitting.

I pay for this game to play it, not to turn on the game and sit there and do nothing.

I found AE farms so boring I set a character on Follow, an attack on auto and went outside to do some sawing.