Ambushes are out of control again!
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Aliana Blue,
Posted on: 2009-09-17 22:53 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Since when did taking a Scanner mission spawn an ambush on you? I've never seen that happen with a paper mission.
Also, who the hell thought that a LT and 6 Minions was an appropriate ambush for a lone level 5 hero who is running on the default difficulty settings?
Ugh, pweeze pweeze pweeze dont change anything. The other day while escorting a prisoner back I came around the corner the same time the ambush did. Except the ambush kept coming around the corner for about 8 seconds afterwards. LOL, talk about a fun fight. And I was on a stalker....
Keep the ambushes big. 
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If this was a bank mission and you fly to the bank you usually get ambushed by the huge horde of longbow eagles on the roof of the bank. Not sure if this was your issue or not but the only way around that is run to the bank or teleport to it without going to high.|
Originally Posted by JJDrakken
Im set to diff of +1 and spawn of 1 person
I got 4 peeps on my team, we got 4 ambushes sent to us, for 1 hostage at once, with Wardens! at lvl 15 That doesnt sound right, this been happening all day JJ |
edit noticed the word hostage. NVM
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Solo on Serge's level 20+ Costume slot mission. (Steel Canyon tailor.)|
Originally Posted by Blue Steel
I'm investigating this. If you can tell me specific missions this happened on, that would be great.
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Difficulty setting is the base +0 level, no increased team size, no bosses, no AV's.
Ambush was 3 Ancestor Spirits, 3 (Yellow?) Ink Men, 3-4 "ninja in light colors" with caltrops and the like.
Convenient since the objective was to hunt Tsoo of course, but 3 flying SS/stun lt. and 3 mezzers might have been a bit tough for a squishy, so i'm wondering if this is intended ambush behavior. (The 3-4 Enforcers/whatevers were just squishy absorbers of splash damage.)
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I liked when ambushes were broken so that the baddies would spawn at whatever the lowest available level for their group was. That was always especially hilarious when your team was circa level 45 and the enemy group of the day was the Council.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
At least your enemies are taking you seriously.
 I once got ambushed by a single Rikti Drone. One. Drone. That was so embarassing. |
The all-time greatest ambush I have EVER, EVER seen was during a two-man mayhem mission in Skyway (running at the lowest level, well before I-16).
God only knows how the hell this happened, but as John and I were zooming around heading toward the bank, some 15-20 Longbow come POURING out of a pizza joint and just strafe us. I had just enough time to blurt out (IRL) to John, "WHAT THE-" as I get blown out of the sky, and his character turns around to see this horde of Longbow come swarming out the door of the pizza place.
It didn't help I was laughing so hard I couldn't remember how to use a wake.
It was like every Longbow ambush decided to hit us at once.
I MIGHT still have that demofile somewhere...
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
and his character turns around to see this horde of Longbow come swarming out the door of the pizza place.
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In I16 bosses farm you.
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Originally Posted by syrusb
Well... is the ambush of Nictus in the 1st mission of the Imperious TF (after you take down the Minotaur guarding Solaris) supposed to be... that ridiculously big? I swore there were 3 separate ambushes after the TF was introduced, but now it feels like all three drop in on the team at once. (And keep in mind they're all boss class.)
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Never seen it in a paper mission, but do see it every so often with a scanner one. It's been that way for ages. Perception of it is about a 1-2% of the time thing.|
Originally Posted by Lazarus
Since when did taking a Scanner mission spawn an ambush on you? I've never seen that happen with a paper mission.
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My favorite ambush ever was around level 40. I think I was on my Ice/Fire Blaster. I remember the ambush was four council in the DE area of Founders. I see two come up from the front, so I hold them both then lay waste to them, about then, I get hit from the side and slightly behind by the other two, both of which had grenade launchers. One was even slightly behind cover.
I got flanked! I'm not sure how it happened, but it was kind of cool to see a pseudo military group actually use some form of tactics, even if it was an accident.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
At least your enemies are taking you seriously.
I once got ambushed by a single Rikti Drone. One. Drone. That was so embarassing. |
First Rikti: Laevateinn: growing threat to our plans.
Second Rikti: Steps: must be taken. Available troops: locate.
First Rikti: This drone: burning oil and dusty from sitting in the cargo hold for six months awaiting repair, but available.
Second Rikti: This drone: adequate.
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I had bugged ambushes on the first mission of Mercedes Sheldon's third arc - think the mission was "Fight the Warriors" Had Menelaus and at least one other ambush spawn simultaneously.
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Originally Posted by Blue Steel
I'm investigating this. If you can tell me specific missions this happened on, that would be great.
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I love the Longbow Ambushes in Mayhems, especially the Eagle Death Squads. Fly about, duck into bank and wait for them to come in all nice and clustered together. "Hello XP bags. I've been expecting you..."|
Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
The all-time greatest ambush I have EVER, EVER seen was during a two-man mayhem mission in Skyway (running at the lowest level, well before I-16).
God only knows how the hell this happened, but as John and I were zooming around heading toward the bank, some 15-20 Longbow come POURING out of a pizza joint and just strafe us. I had just enough time to blurt out (IRL) to John, "WHAT THE-" as I get blown out of the sky, and his character turns around to see this horde of Longbow come swarming out the door of the pizza place. It didn't help I was laughing so hard I couldn't remember how to use a wake. It was like every Longbow ambush decided to hit us at once. I MIGHT still have that demofile somewhere... Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
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So you're actually set for +1 and 4 person spawns.
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Originally Posted by JJDrakken
Im set to diff of +1 and spawn of 1 person
I got 4 peeps on my team, we got 4 ambushes sent to us, for 1 hostage at once, with Wardens! at lvl 15 That doesnt sound right, this been happening all day JJ |
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Originally Posted by Monkey_King
If outdoor ambushes count, I got a jumbo ambush doing Serge's "Defeat 30 Tsoo" mission in Steel Canyon last night. Solo, Level +0, Team Size 2. I got rolled by one Ancestor Spirit, two Sorcerers, and 7 or 8 minions. Suffice to say, this is much larger than any spawn that appears in a normal mission on team size 2.
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Exactly same thing happened to me, kind of made me "jump to action" if thats the word.
At the time of that mission my settings were
Level + 0
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Bosses Yes
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Funniest damn ambush I ever saw was a couple years ago in Steel Canyon when what seemed like thirty odd DE around level 40 swarmed the Yellowline train station. They got into both rooms and the police drones returned to the bottom of the ramp.|
Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
The all-time greatest ambush I have EVER, EVER seen was during a two-man mayhem mission in Skyway (running at the lowest level, well before I-16).
God only knows how the hell this happened, but as John and I were zooming around heading toward the bank, some 15-20 Longbow come POURING out of a pizza joint and just strafe us. I had just enough time to blurt out (IRL) to John, "WHAT THE-" as I get blown out of the sky, and his character turns around to see this horde of Longbow come swarming out the door of the pizza place. It didn't help I was laughing so hard I couldn't remember how to use a wake. It was like every Longbow ambush decided to hit us at once. I MIGHT still have that demofile somewhere... Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
Broadcast was flooded with curses as hero's zoned into the ambush and died or went into the terminal to leave without realizing the DE were inside.
It took about ten minutes before some fifties showed up and cleaned up the ambush.
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I had a group of vandals spawn on the Atlas mayhem team about a year ago. We decide to go check it out, the brute runs around the corner... and drops instantly. Then the vandals came into sight. I believe that, after we all died, I counted 31 Vahzilok. Apparently the doc really hated parking meters and boxes that week.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
The all-time greatest ambush I have EVER, EVER seen was during a two-man mayhem mission in Skyway (running at the lowest level, well before I-16).
God only knows how the hell this happened, but as John and I were zooming around heading toward the bank, some 15-20 Longbow come POURING out of a pizza joint and just strafe us. I had just enough time to blurt out (IRL) to John, "WHAT THE-" as I get blown out of the sky, and his character turns around to see this horde of Longbow come swarming out the door of the pizza place. It didn't help I was laughing so hard I couldn't remember how to use a wake. It was like every Longbow ambush decided to hit us at once. I MIGHT still have that demofile somewhere... Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
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Agreed. I was running a scanner mission with a team of 5, it was a random Steal X from Hellions mission, and I got ambushed by a mob of +4 with 2 bosses, 2 LTS and 6 minions. My difficulty was set for 8 players and +3 levels, but again, it was a scanner mission at level 7.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus
Since when did taking a Scanner mission spawn an ambush on you? I've never seen that happen with a paper mission.
Also, who the hell thought that a LT and 6 Minions was an appropriate ambush for a lone level 5 hero who is running on the default difficulty settings? |
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Oh, you got the ones who didn't show up for mine the first time I ran that mission. I'd seen it done before, so I knew what to expect. I went outside and readied myself for battle, I even broadcast that I'd just taken the mission so unsuspecting people who only wanted to change their hairstyle wouldn't blunder into it unprepared, and then I waited... |
Originally Posted by Monkey_King
If outdoor ambushes count, I got a jumbo ambush doing Serge's "Defeat 30 Tsoo" mission in Steel Canyon last night.
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... and waited...
... until, at last, a lone Dragon Enforcer came running down the street from the direction of the Green Line station and boldly threw himself into the attack.
And that was all.
I guess the other members of that ambush team left their T passes in their other pants.
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I've determined that this is working as intended. On mayhem missions, it's fairly well known that if you fly or jump too high the game spawns several oversize ambushes of Longbow Eagles in the air over the bank, who then fly down and murder the crap out of you. You are not intended to survive this, so you darn well better WALK to the bank, mister.|
Originally Posted by Dark_Respite
The all-time greatest ambush I have EVER, EVER seen was during a two-man mayhem mission in Skyway (running at the lowest level, well before I-16).
God only knows how the hell this happened, but as John and I were zooming around heading toward the bank, some 15-20 Longbow come POURING out of a pizza joint and just strafe us. I had just enough time to blurt out (IRL) to John, "WHAT THE-" as I get blown out of the sky, and his character turns around to see this horde of Longbow come swarming out the door of the pizza place. It didn't help I was laughing so hard I couldn't remember how to use a wake. It was like every Longbow ambush decided to hit us at once. I MIGHT still have that demofile somewhere... Michelle aka Samuraiko/Dark_Respite |
For whatever reason, there's not enough space to spawn a Longbow Eagle Death Squad on the Atlas Park or Skyway City mayhem maps. Instead, the game just has a billion Longbow come pouring out of a nearby building. Try it yourself: After clearing the Atlas mayhem, step outside the bank, look to your right, and fly straight up with your new jetpack. Without fail, you'll see guys come boiling out of the building about two doors down.
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I will definitely have to try that again on that map.|
Originally Posted by Monkey_King
I've determined that this is working as intended. On mayhem missions, it's fairly well known that if you fly or jump too high the game spawns several oversize ambushes of Longbow Eagles in the air over the bank, who then fly down and murder the crap out of you. You are not intended to survive this, so you darn well better WALK to the bank, mister.
For whatever reason, there's not enough space to spawn a Longbow Eagle Death Squad on the Atlas Park or Skyway City mayhem maps. Instead, the game just has a billion Longbow come pouring out of a nearby building. Try it yourself: After clearing the Atlas mayhem, step outside the bank, look to your right, and fly straight up with your new jetpack. Without fail, you'll see guys come boiling out of the building about two doors down. |
But I think it was the fact that they all came swarming out of a pizza parlor that made it so damn funny.
I swear, it was like they were all on lunch break when the word came that the bank was being robbed. John wanted me to film it and demo edit it so that instead of them all coming running out and shooting us, they'd all come out and simultaneously vomit.
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I don't know about you, but this feels a bit excessive for a double ambush in a level 14 mission set for two people. (The third villain joined right before these were triggered.) This was on +0 levels/x1 villain(s) and the mission was the one to lead hostages to the Vahzilok surgeons.
See them Damn LB cheat! They show up 3 to 4x spawn rate & bring everyone they can with them!
As for Ambushes with Paper/Radio Mishes, if ya'll get out of AE when it was up, you'd notice ambushes started about i14 or so.
Just hang out long enough, they show.
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