Super Strength Nerfs?!?


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So what is all this talk I hear about Super Strength getting nerfed? Are they going to nerf Rage? or Footstomp? or Knockout Blow? Are they doing this in i15? Or is this just all myths? Thanks in advance


 

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I know this is going to be unpopular, but I never thought Rage should be able to stack - you have to think that wasn't what they had in mind when they put together the powerset.

FWIW, if they made Rage incapable of stacking, I'd hardly consider that a 'nerf'... might be something else entirely.


 

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Myths for now. To normalize the set it would kick FS down to a 10 foot radius but would probably also kick KO blow to 20 seconds. Not sure what Castle would do with rage.


 

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jesus christ why EVERY FREAKING ISSUE!?


 

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It's the new regen


Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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if rage couldnt stack, then yo ucouldnt avoid the -20% defense penalty. this would seriously hamper any /sr or /sd brutes, and any ice or sd tankers who took super strength.


 

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**Hurls the Spike_of_Death at the OP**

This is not the set you are looking for.
Move along.


 

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I know this is going to be unpopular, but I never thought Rage should be able to stack - you have to think that wasn't what they had in mind when they put together the powerset.

FWIW, if they made Rage incapable of stacking, I'd hardly consider that a 'nerf'... might be something else entirely.

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If they did not mean for rage to stack then they probably would not have made it so you could make it perma without any IOs.


 

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It's a rumor till I see a quote from a dev.


 

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So what is all this talk I hear about Super Strength getting nerfed? Are they going to nerf Rage? or Footstomp? or Knockout Blow? Are they doing this in i15? Or is this just all myths? Thanks in advance

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They're planning on fixing the bug which allows stacking rage to eliminate the def penalty. That's it.


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So what is all this talk I hear about Super Strength getting nerfed? Are they going to nerf Rage? or Footstomp? or Knockout Blow? Are they doing this in i15? Or is this just all myths? Thanks in advance

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They're planning on fixing the bug which allows stacking rage to eliminate the def penalty. That's it.

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please elaborate: def penalty? huh?


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jesus christ why EVERY FREAKING ISSUE!?

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oh and T H I S...


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if rage couldnt stack, then yo ucouldnt avoid the -20% defense penalty. this would seriously hamper any /sr or /sd brutes, and any ice or sd tankers who took super strength.

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So, if they didn't allow Rage to stack the bug which allows you to bypass the penalty which is supposed to be associated with the power would be fixed, you're saying?

Edit: and it really wouldn't fix the issue - nor would it be a problem for the defense sets, since if it's not stacked you can still trigger it during the crash and bypass the penalty. The reason it exists is actually because the penalty is already flagged to not stack, but it's also on a delay - the new Rage replaces the current (active) penalty with the new (delayed) one, and thus bypasses it. Reversing the flags would cause the penalty to always work and not allow the buffs to stack.


And this isn't just coming up every issue, it's every patch it seems lately.


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So what is all this talk I hear about Super Strength getting nerfed? Are they going to nerf Rage? or Footstomp? or Knockout Blow? Are they doing this in i15? Or is this just all myths? Thanks in advance

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They're planning on fixing the bug which allows stacking rage to eliminate the def penalty. That's it.

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please elaborate: def penalty? huh?

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Rage has a -def penalty when it shuts off. If it stacks though, there is no penalty.


Willpower has more passive regen than Regen does. Who thought that was a good idea?

Can we get a fix for Energy Melee instead of more new sets?

 

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jesus christ why EVERY FREAKING ISSUE!?

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5+ years of working as intended.

Then it gets popular.

NEEEEEEERRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF


 

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jesus christ why EVERY FREAKING ISSUE!?

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5+ years of working as intended.

Then it gets popular.

NEEEEEEERRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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Correction: 5+ years of being popular. So popular it's been deemed too popular to mess with unless the changes are very well designed.


 

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I think nerfing rage would make me ragequit.


 

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I know this is going to be unpopular, but I never thought Rage should be able to stack - you have to think that wasn't what they had in mind when they put together the powerset.

FWIW, if they made Rage incapable of stacking, I'd hardly consider that a 'nerf'... might be something else entirely.

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If they did not mean for rage to stack then they probably would not have made it so you could make it perma without any IOs.

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myths

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you'd stil have fire/fire in both brute and tanker flavor


 

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Just got my SS/WP into the 40s

Sigh.


 

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i was just about to since i have recently fallen in love again with footstomp for...well for everything. and i enjoy the hell out of the super strength attack chains far more than stone melee.

however willpower is probably theone secondary brutes get redside that would still be viable. during the rage crash and assuming that -defense stays up even if yo urefresh rage as soon as it crashes (i've never actually tested that in game but i should) willpower still has it's resists and regen working for it.

/sr and /sd would now be at 25% defense assuming they didnt overcap their sets. ouch!

personally i'd be more worried about a foostomp nerf.


 

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Just got my SS/WP into the 40s

Sigh.

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There is no nerf. The devs haven't said anything.

If they made rage unstackable, it wouldn't effect my SS/Fire at all since I don't stack rage, I only do when I REALLY need the extra damage. But, overall you don't kill any faster stacking rage since you crash more often.


 

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I'm pretty sure SS will be nerfed somewhere down the line. Hell, a nerf even made it to test once, although the outcry was so big Castle ended up actually buffing SS.