I don't mind Contaminated being in a pvp zone, however the people who've popped up saying how much fun they are going to have frustrating others by killing them just to be a pain makes me wish they would change it do a different zone. Anything which breeds players acting like 12 year olds on WoW with nothing to do other than make people upset for their own enjoyment is not a positive game change. Killing them out of curiosity is one thing and I have no qualm with if someone were to, but doing it to ruin CoX and gloating is shameful.
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um... how is your average villain going to know that?
I can forsee a lot of villains trying, stealing kills from heros in the process, and then raising a fuss when they wonder why their efforts aren't being rewarded.
Just move the one Contaminated over to Peregrine or somewhere so Villains will never see him.
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Does this mean that villains can get isolator too, if thats the case, then heroes should get jail bird too.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Posi,
First, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to get this badge. However, I feel like those of us who have been loyal to the game, having created our main badge hunters well before I-2, are being punished. Why should this badge be so outrageously difficult to get.
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.... as opposed to "No, you missed it, you cannot have it, period?"
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Like I said, not trying to be critical. I'm happy there will be a way to get this. Just my opinion.
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Because as is quoted elsewhere - Posi said that if they ever do give people a way to get this badge out of Outbreak, it would be insanely difficult/irratating to do.
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Does this mean that villains can get isolator too, if thats the case, then heroes should get jail bird too.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Wow, I just got home and im checking the forums and um, wow, I diddnt think I'd be opening up a can of worms like this and to get an answer from a red name wow lol, anyway, I have coh and cov so um, no skin off my nose for villains not getting isolator 
thx posi
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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You realize that this is the first badge that I know of to have this functionality (Hero only)?
There will be Villains camping with and competing with Heroes for a badge they can never earn? That sucks for both sides.
How will this work when side switching is enabled. Will a Villain-turned-Hero be able to earn Isolater? Will a Hero lose his Isolater if they 'go rogue?'
And I'm sure everyone is aware that the text on Isolater doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense if it's earned in Recluse's Victory.
Also, what about villains that didn't earn 'Jail Bird?' Will there be a spot in RV for them to go to get that?
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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You realize that this is the first badge that I know of to have this functionality (Hero only)?
There will be Villains camping with and competing with Heroes for a badge they can never earn? That sucks for both sides.
How will this work when side switching is enabled. Will a Villain-turned-Hero be able to earn Isolater? Will a Hero lose his Isolater if they 'go rogue?'
And I'm sure everyone is aware that the text on Isolater doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense if it's earned in Recluse's Victory.
Also, what about villains that didn't earn 'Jail Bird?' Will there be a spot in RV for them to go to get that?
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There are other badges like that. There are also Villain only badges. Kinda frustrated some folks in Siren's Call that .
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See? If you would have re-rolled after I-2 came out, none of you would have to go through with this. :P
I personally think re-rolling a lvl 30 toon for the badge was soooooo worth the effort! I got a brand new toon 9since I didn't delete the old one) and got the badge I so wanted. I won't have to put up with PvPers griefing the badge hunters.
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I have never once mocked anyone for choosing to reroll for a badge.
I have only mocked the reason why you had to make that choice in the first place.
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You realize that this is the first badge that I know of to have this functionality (Hero only)?
There will be Villains camping with and competing with Heroes for a badge they can never earn? That sucks for both sides.
How will this work when side switching is enabled. Will a Villain-turned-Hero be able to earn Isolater? Will a Hero lose his Isolater if they 'go rogue?'
And I'm sure everyone is aware that the text on Isolater doesn't make even the slightest bit of sense if it's earned in Recluse's Victory.
Also, what about villains that didn't earn 'Jail Bird?' Will there be a spot in RV for them to go to get that?
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There are other badges like that. There are also Villain only badges. Kinda frustrated some folks in Siren's Call that .
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The fact that any badge is now flagged 'hero only' or 'villain only' only adds frustration to the game and not much else. While there may be good game mechanic reasons for having flags like that, there are no game immersion reasons for it, especially if the hero/villain crossover concept ever happens.
Heroes and villains do 'questionable' things all the time in the comics... 
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besides, Villains have no gain from whacking this one rare spawn that Heroes need for a badge. I bet some Villains will kill Contaminated anyways just to grief Heroes.
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MUHAHAHA thats exactly what i plan on doing. now thats being a villian
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I'd just head to Galaxy City and kill the level 4 contaminated there instead...
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besides, Villains have no gain from whacking this one rare spawn that Heroes need for a badge. I bet some Villains will kill Contaminated anyways just to grief Heroes.
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MUHAHAHA thats exactly what i plan on doing. now thats being a villian
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I'd just head to Galaxy City and kill the level 4 contaminated there instead...
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Are those "Contaminated" or "Infected"?
Big difference.
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besides, Villains have no gain from whacking this one rare spawn that Heroes need for a badge. I bet some Villains will kill Contaminated anyways just to grief Heroes.
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MUHAHAHA thats exactly what i plan on doing. now thats being a villian
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I'd just head to Galaxy City and kill the level 4 contaminated there instead...
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Are those "Contaminated" or "Infected"?
Big difference.
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err... Hmmm.... infected, contaminated... What's the difference?
*points* Look! It's a Flying Bagel!
*runs away*
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Does this mean that villains can get isolator too, if thats the case, then heroes should get jail bird too.
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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And this is the seldom heard, but much dreaded, Positron Burn.
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Positron clarifying a minor detail that will not stop people from whining regardless does not a burn make...
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Yeah, but I just like quoting That 70's Show.
...Besides, it's 100% impossible to stop people from whining.
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Perhaps, but its quite telling that Positron chose to respond to my rather serious accusations over Isolators overall shortcomings by addressing the most minor, trivial aspect of it. The fact that, gods forbid, a few villains might get Isolator in RV was more important to the Devs thinking on this implementation than all the other ramifications merely adds to my misgivings about this. Opening Pandoras Box comes to mind...
Pro-Isolators get their precious badge they shouldn't have had to fight for in the first place. Anti-Isolators (and Positron) get to laugh at their efforts to beat their heads against the wall to earn it. I guess somebody likes this sad state of affairs, but frankly I think we all lost out on this one.
*puts on her tin-foil hat to keep out the new wave of Jailbird / event badge whining on its way*
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Sweet, I have created choas on the forums as planned, now to release my army of kronos titans lol
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Perhaps, but its quite telling that Positron chose to respond to my rather serious accusations over Isolators overall shortcomings by addressing the most minor, trivial aspect of it. The fact that, gods forbid, a few villains might get Isolator in RV was more important to the Devs thinking on this implementation than all the other ramifications merely adds to my misgivings about this. Opening Pandoras Box comes to mind...
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Does this mean that villains can get isolator too, if thats the case, then heroes should get jail bird too.
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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um... how is your average villain going to know that?
I can forsee a lot of villains trying, stealing kills from heros in the process, and then raising a fuss when they wonder why their efforts aren't being rewarded.
Just move the one Contaminated over to Peregrine or somewhere so Villains will never see him.
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As a villain, I like being able to interrupt the efforts of heroes. Sounds like a totally intentional mechanic.
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you do know that you would be in a PvP zone, right?
8 heros all waiting for this one spawn. villian walks up to cause mistchiff. hmm i wonder how that would turn out.
i'm for one am just glad to have a chance in hell to get this badge on my main that i've had since I1
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I'd say the villian is betting they could take out the NPC before they are defeated.
I consider myself to be one of the biggest badge collectors over all servers, not because I have more, but the amount of time I have helped many many people get badges including my Sg. Hours of killing things over and over again, padding, you name it I have done it.
So I am very happy we have another chance to earn this badge since I know I defeated a helluva lot more then what is required to earn the badge before pre-issue 2 when I was waiting and help my friends complete their missions.
But because they did not data mine the kills I was left out to dry. So I could skip the badge or delete my level 50 when the badges came out. or simply make another toon. But at the time, my tank was my favorite toon and I did not want to delete or make a new toon.
So now I have another chance to get this badge. Yes I feel it is hard and I'm willing to do what it takes to get the badge. And yes, I do agree with some people here, by making this badge so hard, is almost like punishing the long time subscriber who missed this badge when it was released.
At least we now have a way to get it. So I'm not complaining at all. But don't get me wrong I would love to see this changed as a single spawn to spawn in RV once every 2-3 hours is a bit much considering the amount of pre-issue 2 heroes that need this badge.
I think the spawn timer needs a tweak or more then one single spawn in that time frame. But as I said, no matter what it takes I will get it.
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Beef Cake, I'm replying to you but I'm not aiming at you...
I seem to recall that the complaint was that the badge was unavailable to anyone with a pre I-2 toon. You begged for a way to get the badge.
Positron said that IF they did it, it would be INSANELY hard to get.
The playerbase said "We don't care, just give us some way to get it".
Well, you got it.
Please quit complaining about getting exactly what you asked for.
I personally think the chosen implementation is hilarious.
And since I didn't get Isolator on Abigail, Ice/Storm 'troller looking for Isolator team...
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M'Teru couldn't get the job done. So she sent Mot to Astoria. Bad call.
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you do know that you would be in a PvP zone, right?
8 heros all waiting for this one spawn. villian walks up to cause mistchiff. hmm i wonder how that would turn out.
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Gee.
8 heroes vs the Fiery Fist. Probably at least 10 seconds to take him down. That may be a generous estimate in my favor.
Fiery Fist vs Contaminated minion. 1 second to get off energy transfer.
I'd put my odds at about 50% of stealing that kill.
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Perhaps, but its quite telling that Positron chose to respond to my rather serious accusations over Isolators overall shortcomings by addressing the most minor, trivial aspect of it. The fact that, gods forbid, a few villains might get Isolator in RV was more important to the Devs thinking on this implementation than all the other ramifications merely adds to my misgivings about this. Opening Pandoras Box comes to mind...
Pro-Isolators get their precious badge they shouldn't have had to fight for in the first place. Anti-Isolators (and Positron) get to laugh at their efforts to beat their heads against the wall to earn it. I guess somebody likes this sad state of affairs, but frankly I think we all lost out on this one.
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I should point out that even though I am an "Anti-Isolator", I'm not pointing and laughing at the difficulty involved.
And I still disagree with this belief by various people in the Pro-Isolator crowd that everything has been one big screwjob, slap in the face, or whatever for us Pre-I2 players.
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Does this mean that villains can get isolator too, if thats the case, then heroes should get jail bird too.
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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oooh..
*runs off to put 'Positron's Ally' badge on*
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I <insert name here> will use every trick and ability at my disposal to try and kill the contaminated in RV, if for no other reason than to annoy a hero. For I am a villain and that what I do. 
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I consider myself to be one of the biggest badge collectors over all servers, not because I have more, but the amount of time I have helped many many people get badges including my Sg. Hours of killing things over and over again, padding, you name it I have done it.
So I am very happy we have another chance to earn this badge since I know I defeated a helluva lot more then what is required to earn the badge before pre-issue 2 when I was waiting and help my friends complete their missions.
But because they did not data mine the kills I was left out to dry. So I could skip the badge or delete my level 50 when the badges came out. or simply make another toon. But at the time, my tank was my favorite toon and I did not want to delete or make a new toon.
So now I have another chance to get this badge. Yes I feel it is hard and I'm willing to do what it takes to get the badge. And yes, I do agree with some people here, by making this badge so hard, is almost like punishing the long time subscriber who missed this badge when it was released.
At least we now have a way to get it. So I'm not complaining at all. But don't get me wrong I would love to see this changed as a single spawn to spawn in RV once every 2-3 hours is a bit much considering the amount of pre-issue 2 heroes that need this badge.
I think the spawn timer needs a tweak or more then one single spawn in that time frame. But as I said, no matter what it takes I will get it.
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Holy crap, first positron and now beefcake, holy crap, and to think it was only 1 or 2 sentences that opened this can O' worms
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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You realize that this is the first badge that I know of to have this functionality (Hero only)?
There will be Villains camping with and competing with Heroes for a badge they can never earn? That sucks for both sides.
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Precisely. This is quite unexpected badge behavior. Someone else said Villains would give up camping eventually... not if they keep thinking they're making progress on something that doesn't exist. and since it never had a progress bar in the first place, it's hard to see how they'd realize they're wasting time.
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and I'm sure you're aware that Recluse Victory involves time travel. If you alter the Contaminated there, it must alter what you acheived at the start of your career.
maybe that's the *only* reason to spawn the guy there and not in PI or RCS.
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Posi,
First, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to get this badge. However, I feel like those of us who have been loyal to the game, having created our main badge hunters well before I-2, are being punished. Why should this badge be so outrageously difficult to get.
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.... as opposed to "No, you missed it, you cannot have it, period?"
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Like I said, not trying to be critical. I'm happy there will be a way to get this. Just my opinion.