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It astounds me that people here in both the pro and anti Isolator camps continue to sling arrows at each other over this when it's painfully clear that A) the Devs allowed the pre-I2 toon Isolator problem to happen, B) the Devs let the problem linger and pretended it didn't exist then finally C) in a tacit admittal of the mistake lowered themselves enough to twitch their pinkies on their mice to click a few GUI buttons calling that a day.
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Adding a Contaminated spawn to RV is not a "tacit admission to a mistake". No matter how many times you try to say that, Lothic, it won't make it true. There was *nothing* wrong with Isolator, nor how it was placed in the first place.
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Get back to me on that point when the Devs tell us that the reason they bothered with RV Isolator had -absolutely nothing- to do with the fact that pre-I2 toons were prevented from having the chance to get Isolator in the first place. There's no legitimate reason to offer Isolator outside of Outbreak if you manage to argue away the key design oversight the Devs allowed to happen so many moons ago. Although I obviously don't think they handled the 'fix' situation very well, the fact that one exists now clearly demonstrates that the Devs felt there was *something* wrong with Isolator, and because that fix involves another zone completely it would seem to suggest that the problem was related to where it was placed in the first place. The Devs have re-written it, so let it be done...
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Does no one else see that that Devs have laughed at us -all- over this? No one here really got what they wanted, and we all got to see how they are willing to patronizingly handle the concerns of its player base. People with valid arguments for why badges shouldn't be tinkered with as well as the toon rerollers got brushed aside, and people who pleaded for so long for a sensible solution for the original Isolator oversight got slapped with one of the most insanely simpleminded yet diabolical schemes one could have imagined for this game. Basically no one -won- anything here...
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Really? I don't see the Dev's laughing at anyone over this, and this is another example of you blowing things way out of proportion. And people DID get what they wanted... People like Beef_Cake got their chance at Isolator, which they *ASKED* for. (And stated that they didn't care HOW hard it was).
And as one of the people who didn't want an alternative for Isolator made available, I don't feel like my concerns were "Brushed aside". Nor do I feel like I "lost", as this was never a contest. It was a change based on customer feedback, and while I disagree with it, I can accept it, nor am I gonna Vileify the dev's for it.
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I've never seen a plainer inside joke than RV Isolator... 
You can't honestly tell me that people like Beef_Cake *ASKED* for something like RV Isolator at first. I remember people like him arguing in the past that they simply should be -given- Isolator because they -deserved- it or some such nonsense. It was only when it became clear that the Devs were willing to stick to their guns and not change Isolator that the pro-Isolator types got desperate enough to offer their gaming souls to obtain it no matter how hard it would be. Instead of sticking to their reasonable policy of badge integrity, Posi thought it'd be cute to call the pro-Isolators' bluff and hand-wave a hack without considering the ramifications or aggravations involved. If the Devs want to start down the primrose path that will lead to all badges becoming available regardless of the original time or location limitations involved that's fine of course, it's their game to do with as they please. I suppose RV Isolator simply doesn't give me a decent 'warm fuzzy' that any of the other badge diluting or backpedaling will be handled any better in the future.
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
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I assumed the Devs would ultimately botch a 'fix' like this, that's why I never asked for Isolator outside of Outbreak. At least for me you are preaching to the choir - the idiot pro-Isolators allowed the Devs an opening to set a precedent that will let them get away with more stupid s*** in the future. At this point I could care less about Isolator - I'm just upset that other more significant future player requested items may now be handled in an equally thoughtless way and that's something none of us should be laughing at.
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Anyway I, unlike you, dont see this as "botched" or "thoughtless" so any future predictions of doom dont apply as far as Im concerned. And whatever your opinion of this I happen to think that this qualifies as a rather unique situation and cant really imagine anything in future being handled in a similar manner.
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Gods we can only hope nothing will ever be handled "a similar manner" to Isolator and RV Isolator ever again.
While you may hold the RV Isolator MOB hack in higher esteem than others do, I'll choose to take it in the manner in which it has been presented to the player community. If the Devs decided a five minute knee-jerk effort was an appropriate response to an issue that has raged on this forum for good or bad since the beginning of I2, then clearly I am forced to conclude that Devs are likely to, at some point in the future, respond to other player issues with an equal lack of reasonable respect, effort or concern. I don't find the logic of that prospect very appealing...
Now if my position on this is considered alarmist or an attempt to vilify the Devs over their otherwise outstanding game, then I'm willing to accept those assumptions if it will help slow the downward spiral of badge whining and backpedaling here and now.
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
--{=====> Virtue ♀