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Does this mean that villains can get isolator too, if thats the case, then heroes should get jail bird too.
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
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I will graciously stand corrected over the "both Hero and Villain" assumption of the RV Isolator. But I continue to believe the overall handling of the Isolator situation for pre-I2 characters is one of the few everlasting blemishes on an otherwise wonderful game which I have spent literally thousands of hours playing since CoH Beta. I calls them how I sees them...
While Isolator would be nice to have, I have never directly asked in these Forums or PMs to anyone for a means to get Isolator for my pre-I2 hero. It's clear to me that based on how long it took to do -anything- about Isolator then seeing the nature of the 'solution' that's been arranged for it in RV that the Devs never had any real intention to ever offer Isolator outside of Outbreak and honestly that was perfectly fine for me. All things considered I think the Devs should have stuck to your guns and not done anything about it at all if this RV thing was all that could be offered in the way of appeasement. Frankly it's borderline insulting to people who have been playing heroes from the beginning.
Ironically had this been a completely new 'Easter egg' badge in RV to earn I would've been all for it. Do not mistake this post as a 'please make the RV Isolator thing easier' whine. I have no problem with having very difficult badges to earn in principle, only with associating the ongoing problem with Isolator to something like this.
I'm sorry that I am forced to be critical on a subject that I'm sure all involved would simply like to go away, but I feel it would be a disservice to you and myself if I didn't express my true thoughts on the matter. I have yet to decide if I'm even going to try for the RV Isolator at this point but I am leaning against it - I have better top level epic achievement badges to work on instead.
I can appreciate the significance that any effort was made on this at all, but as I'm sure you are well aware almost anything would have been better than this.
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
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um... how is your average villain going to know that?
I can forsee a lot of villains trying, stealing kills from heros in the process, and then raising a fuss when they wonder why their efforts aren't being rewarded.
Just move the one Contaminated over to Peregrine or somewhere so Villains will never see him.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
But IF we were to add it, it would be available nonetheless.
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If the one contaminated moves to Peregrine, it'll probably be standing in the middle of monster island.
Which would be hilarious.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
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And this is the seldom heard, but much dreaded, Positron Burn.
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Positron clarifying a minor detail that will not stop people from whining regardless does not a burn make...
Loth 50 Fire/Rad Controller [1392 Badges] [300 non-AE Souvenirs]
Ryver 50 Ele� Blaster [1392 Badges]
Silandra 50 Peacebringer [1138 Badges] [No Redside Badges]
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
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And this is the seldom heard, but much dreaded, Positron Burn.
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Positron clarifying a minor detail that will not stop people from whining regardless does not a burn make...
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Yeah, but I just like quoting That 70's Show.
...Besides, it's 100% impossible to stop people from whining.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Posi,
First, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to get this badge. However, I feel like those of us who have been loyal to the game, having created our main badge hunters well before I-2, are being punished. Why should this badge be so outrageously difficult to get.
In a PvP zone, badge hunters usually get 0 respect. They get told repeatedly that they are in a PvP zone, so this means they want to PvP. This isnt the case, yet we're now forced to be amongst those who think that way. Even if the spawn stays as it is, only spawning 1 every few hours, could we at LEAST get it in a PvE zone? That would at least take some of the sting out of this badge.
Thanks for all the hard work though. Don't want to seem critical. 
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This isnt the case, yet we're now forced to be amongst those who think that way.
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No one is forcing you to get the badge.
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I knew this was going to come up. Granted, no one is forcing us to get the badge, but it's never that simple. Some people enjoy PvP, some don't. Some enjoy the story & roleplaying, others don't. Some enjoy badge hunting, while others do not.
So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
But IF we were to add it, it would be available nonetheless.
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If you go and find the thread where Posi stated this, you'll note that several of you who REALLY want the badge specificially told Posi to "bring it on". It's been brought.
Since this is now the standard for getting missed badges, whether you missed them because you were unavailable, not in game or it was offered somewhere not accessable to your character, then I hope the standard is upheld. We've already seen the return of the winter minions, were they stuck only in a PvP zone? No. So for now on, sure there can be returns of other rare spawns, but based on the same rules of the RV Isolater. There will be 1 winter lord spawn per year on christmas day, time unknown, but in a PvP zone. If you miss it, wait til next year. On halloween and halloween only, there will be single spawns of each type in Siren's call on a 2 hour timer, if you don't get enough for the badge, there is always next year. It is the perfect reward to your long time playerbase.
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Here is how I see it: lots and lots of people cried to get the chance to get the Isolater badge, even to the point of saying that they would do just about anything "in game" to get it. The Devs listened to the cries of the masses and granted thier request in the affirmative. They gave them a "chance" and even stated it that it would not be very easy. And now that the Heroes have their chance they cry about how hard it will be to get. It seems to me that a lot of people don't really mean what they say, and will find any excuse to complain even if they are given what they want.
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I get a chuckle out of each complaint. Quite a funny thread.
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So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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IF we were to ever add a way to get Isolator post-Tutorial, it would most likely be incredibly hard to get. Annoyingly hard. Irritatingly hard. There-would-be-a-zillion-people-asking-to-make-it-easier hard.
But IF we were to add it, it would be available nonetheless.
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If you go and find the thread where Posi stated this, you'll note that several of you who REALLY want the badge specificially told Posi to "bring it on". It's been brought.
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Not arguing that I won't be trying to get it. Just posting my opinion on the matter. I've VERY happy that there will be a way to get it. I'm saying it doesn't make sense to me.
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This isnt the case, yet we're now forced to be amongst those who think that way.
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No one is forcing you to get the badge.
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I knew this was going to come up. Granted, no one is forcing us to get the badge, but it's never that simple. Some people enjoy PvP, some don't. Some enjoy the story & roleplaying, others don't. Some enjoy badge hunting, while others do not.
So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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But if your not willing to use the method given to get the badge, then you must not want the badge that bad.
Shut up, guys. Positron is going easy on us. This really isn't anywhere as bad as I thought it would be. The guy is a regular spawn, even (I think?) It's not like a giant monster, where you have to watch the zone for three hours.
As for the mean villains issue, it just means that the badge hunters are going to have to cooperate. The obvious answer is to hold the tram in between spawns, and if there's more than one team doing this, whack the guy in shifts. It's going to take a while, but I think we expected that. We can make a regular weekend event out of it.
Or just wait three months after launch to get it out of your system, THEN start hunting the guy. The villains are bound to get tired of camping the tram eventually.
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I knew this was going to come up. Granted, no one is forcing us to get the badge, but it's never that simple. Some people enjoy PvP, some don't. Some enjoy the story & roleplaying, others don't. Some enjoy badge hunting, while others do not.
So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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But if your not willing to use the method given to get the badge, then you must not want the badge that bad.
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Never did I say that I was unwilling to get it by this method. In-fact, my last post stated that I'll be trying to get the badge. I just don't agree with the spawn placement.
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I knew this was going to come up. Granted, no one is forcing us to get the badge, but it's never that simple. Some people enjoy PvP, some don't. Some enjoy the story & roleplaying, others don't. Some enjoy badge hunting, while others do not.
So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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But if your not willing to use the method given to get the badge, then you must not want the badge that bad.
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Never did I say that I was unwilling to get it by this method. In-fact, my last post stated that I'll be trying to get the badge. I just don't agree with the spawn placement.
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Yeah, you posted that seconds before I posted mine. And I didn't mean mine to come off as snarky as it seems to be upon re-reading it.
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I knew this was going to come up. Granted, no one is forcing us to get the badge, but it's never that simple. Some people enjoy PvP, some don't. Some enjoy the story & roleplaying, others don't. Some enjoy badge hunting, while others do not.
So, let me rephrase. Some of us REALLY want the badge without having to deal with the people who don't see the "fun" in it.
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But if your not willing to use the method given to get the badge, then you must not want the badge that bad.
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Never did I say that I was unwilling to get it by this method. In-fact, my last post stated that I'll be trying to get the badge. I just don't agree with the spawn placement.
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Yeah, you posted that seconds before I posted mine. And I didn't mean mine to come off as snarky as it seems to be upon re-reading it.
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It's all good. I'm honestly thrilled that there will be a way for us who have been loyal and in-game before I2 to get the badge. I'm just not a huge fan of PvP, which is where the game seems to be going fast, but that's a discussion for a different thread.
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Wow, ye of little faith. Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge. Only Heroes can get the badge.
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um... how is your average villain going to know that?
I can forsee a lot of villains trying, stealing kills from heros in the process, and then raising a fuss when they wonder why their efforts aren't being rewarded.
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This wouldn't be any more offensive than what already goes on in PvP zones. By comparison, it's tame.
Just move the one Contaminated over to Peregrine or somewhere so Villains will never see him.
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Move him to the Hive, cowering right next to Hami.
Note: I have a hero with 250+ badges and I have absolutely no plans to get this badge.
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Since this is now the standard for getting missed badges, whether you missed them because you were unavailable, not in game or it was offered somewhere not accessable to your character, then I hope the standard is upheld. We've already seen the return of the winter minions, were they stuck only in a PvP zone? No. So for now on, sure there can be returns of other rare spawns, but based on the same rules of the RV Isolater. There will be 1 winter lord spawn per year on christmas day, time unknown, but in a PvP zone. If you miss it, wait til next year. On halloween and halloween only, there will be single spawns of each type in Siren's call on a 2 hour timer, if you don't get enough for the badge, there is always next year. It is the perfect reward to your long time playerbase.
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Incorrect context... the Isolator mob in RV does not spawn once a year. It apparently spawns regularly. A better context for your snarky rant/retort would have been a single winter that only would spawn in a single PvP location.
Virtue: multiple characters.
CoH/V: Woot! Maybe Fun is to be had once again.
Ack! RUN! Regen is glowing mean & green!
If it reduces you, it's a nerf.
If it buffs the mobs, it's challenge.
They are not the same.
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Posi,
First, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to get this badge. However, I feel like those of us who have been loyal to the game, having created our main badge hunters well before I-2, are being punished. Why should this badge be so outrageously difficult to get.
In a PvP zone, badge hunters usually get 0 respect. They get told repeatedly that they are in a PvP zone, so this means they want to PvP. This isnt the case, yet we're now forced to be amongst those who think that way. Even if the spawn stays as it is, only spawning 1 every few hours, could we at LEAST get it in a PvE zone? That would at least take some of the sting out of this badge.
Thanks for all the hard work though. Don't want to seem critical.
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See? If you would have re-rolled after I-2 came out, none of you would have to go through with this. :P
I personally think re-rolling a lvl 30 toon for the badge was soooooo worth the effort! I got a brand new toon 9since I didn't delete the old one) and got the badge I so wanted. I won't have to put up with PvPers griefing the badge hunters.
So to all ye who mocked me for re-rolling :P~~~~~~~
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But if it was...... Contaminated brawler hits you with rock for 2000 damage.
Priceless.
But you know...
...I think the reason that the "alternate" way to get the badge is as annoying and difficult as it is is so that those who couldn't get it before I2 can finally get the badge, BUT there is still sufficent enough incentive that people will still try to get it the regular way (In the tutorial) instead of simply blowing it off, knowing they can get it later.
Otherwise, what would be the point of even leaving the badge in the tutorial?
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Posi,
First, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to get this badge. However, I feel like those of us who have been loyal to the game, having created our main badge hunters well before I-2, are being punished. Why should this badge be so outrageously difficult to get.
In a PvP zone, badge hunters usually get 0 respect. They get told repeatedly that they are in a PvP zone, so this means they want to PvP. This isnt the case, yet we're now forced to be amongst those who think that way. Even if the spawn stays as it is, only spawning 1 every few hours, could we at LEAST get it in a PvE zone? That would at least take some of the sting out of this badge.
Thanks for all the hard work though. Don't want to seem critical.
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See? If you would have re-rolled after I-2 came out, none of you would have to go through with this. :P
I personally think re-rolling a lvl 30 toon for the badge was soooooo worth the effort! I got a brand new toon 9since I didn't delete the old one) and got the badge I so wanted. I won't have to put up with PvPers griefing the badge hunters.
So to all ye who mocked me for re-rolling :P~~~~~~~
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I cringe at the idea of re-rolling. I was in my 30s as well, and didn't have the heart. The price I have to pay now... lol
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But you know...
...I think the reason that the "alternate" way to get the badge is as annoying and difficult as it is is so that those who couldn't get it before I2 can finally get the badge, BUT there is still sufficent enough incentive that people will still try to get it the regular way (In the tutorial) instead of simply blowing it off, knowing they can get it later.
Otherwise, what would be the point of even leaving the badge in the tutorial?
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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Posi,
First, I would like to thank you for this opportunity to get this badge. However, I feel like those of us who have been loyal to the game, having created our main badge hunters well before I-2, are being punished. Why should this badge be so outrageously difficult to get.
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.... as opposed to "No, you missed it, you cannot have it, period?"
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Now we begin to see the continued shortsightedness of the Devs' handling of Isolator.
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Wow, ye of little faith.
Isolator is marked as "Hero Only". Villains can kill the contaminated for 100 years, and never get the badge.
Only Heroes can get the badge.
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um... how is your average villain going to know that?
I can forsee a lot of villains trying, stealing kills from heros in the process, and then raising a fuss when they wonder why their efforts aren't being rewarded.
Just move the one Contaminated over to Peregrine or somewhere so Villains will never see him.
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Most "average villains" wouldn't have any idea there was an isolator badge to begin with.