Martial Combat and Martial Assault
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2012-08-01 11:32 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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It's a different feel that we're trying out here - the advantage of it is that it gets a damage bonus for its area factor, to balance out that it's a different way of aiming than 8 years of playing the game have ingrained in players. That means that if you master its use, you can be more effective than if it were just a normal targeted cone.
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Originally Posted by StratoNexus
I like most of the MA dominator set. I am worried about the cone. I don't generally like these types of powers in any game I play. I much prefer the way CoH cones have always worked. That said, the game has room for an option such as facing cones that I would skip, but others will enjoy.
I do like that you can use it out of combat for styling. |
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Eagle's Claw is actually in the set. |
Originally Posted by RavenSoul
Well, I was rather hoping Eagle Claw would be in if Martial Arts ever came to Blasters but it was something I knew would be a longshot. So, while I am a bit dissapointed that my favorite Martial Arts attack isn't in...
I am still very pleased to see this. Color me stoked - Pistols and Martial Arts together AT LAST, it feels like it's been a long time coming. Really happy to know the wait will be over soon - not having Eagle Claw in there doesn't change that one bit! So, thanks to Paragon Studios, I can cross one major wish off my list - one I have wanted since I signed on in '04. Thanks guys, you rock! ~Raven |
In the video, we were mostly highlighting the unique mechanics of the powerset, but Eagle's Claw is most definitely present!
The problem I have with Martial Assault is just no natural primary to go with it. Shurikens + Martial Arts works awesomely for a Batman style character, but not if I have to pair it up with Mind Control or something.
EDIT: Not to say that the set isn't interesting. This is just a nitpick. I'm still rather excited to be able to try this out.
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The Dom T9's secondary effect is a splash AoE DoT. While it's not a TON of AoE damage, I thought the AoE splash would help Explosive Shuriken stand out amongst single-target nukes. |
Originally Posted by Neuronia
Woo woo for a Dom Assault set!
Booooo for the Tier 9 not being an AoE though.  Still pretty darn tootin and will be PLing one (well two as my friend wants this NAO) asap. |
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I'm telling you, we need Ninjitsu control. Sticky bombs, poison darts, poison bombs, ninja pet. Maybe a placate in there.
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Originally Posted by Zandock
The problem I have with Martial Assault is just no natural primary to go with it. Shurikens + Martial Arts works awesomely for a Batman style character, but not if I have to pair it up with Mind Control or something.
EDIT: Not to say that the set isn't interesting. This is just a nitpick. I'm still rather excited to be able to try this out. |
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This, really. Martial Assault just doesn't have a proper primary to pair up with. Mind Control probably would be the best bet.|
Originally Posted by Zandock
The problem I have with Martial Assault is just no natural primary to go with it. Shurikens + Martial Arts works awesomely for a Batman style character, but not if I have to pair it up with Mind Control or something.
EDIT: Not to say that the set isn't interesting. This is just a nitpick. I'm still rather excited to be able to try this out. |
EDIT: Ninjitsu Control would be epic.
Hmm... Marital Combat does sound interesting.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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wooooohooooo!|
Originally Posted by arbiter hawk
eagle's claw is actually in the set.
in the video, we were mostly highlighting the unique mechanics of the powerset, but eagle's claw is most definitely present! |
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Pardon me, I believe I have a happy dance to go perform...
Even against certain death, it matters not how or if we fight, only that we do.
Most amusing complement I've ever been paid on an outfit, from @Ukase regarding my Blue Eyed She-Devil Anson Maddocs "Fallen Angel" homage:
"She gives my ex-wife a run for the money."
"She gives my ex-wife a run for the money."
I keep getting ninja'd in his thread!
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This may replace devices as my go-to non-powered secondary.
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Talking of Michelangelo.
Seriously, this news is so excellent that it's made TWO of my days - one is today of course, and the other is the 18th of last month when I had a mildly depressing birthday. This news is so great that it went back in time and made my birthday a little happier in memory, at least.
I have this image in my head of Doc Brown with a birthday cake in one hand and a "sorry I'm late for your birthday so I came here from the future for it" card in the other!
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In my case, it already has!
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
This may replace devices as my go-to non-powered secondary.
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Even against certain death, it matters not how or if we fight, only that we do.
Most amusing complement I've ever been paid on an outfit, from @Ukase regarding my Blue Eyed She-Devil Anson Maddocs "Fallen Angel" homage:
"She gives my ex-wife a run for the money."
"She gives my ex-wife a run for the money."
ermahgerd!
I am so happy I could cry right now! My VIP just expired but I'll gladly pay for this!
I am very happy with this news. Like, extremely happy. If BB wasn't 50, I'd re-roll, and I'm thinking of re-rolling my Water Blaster, and plan to make a Fire/MC.
Activate Reaction Time---> Pop some purples---> Pop Reach For the Limit---> Speed Burst---> RoF---> Dragon's Tail---> Fireball.
I don't have enough experience with fire to say if anything will still be alive, but there's always Inferno.
Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
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Don't have to, it's auto.
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Originally Posted by Bullet Barrage
I---> Pop Reach For the Limit--->
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"....you are now tackle free for life."-ShoNuff
Derp. >.<
Even better!
Goodbye. Not to the game, but the players. Goodbye. Everyone, remember to have fun. That's all I can say.
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This is another factor that killed whatever excitement I had for this new set and Dominators are by far and away my most favouritest of all the ATs. Ninjitsu Control would be amazing and would make me interested again.|
Originally Posted by Mad Grim
This, really. Martial Assault just doesn't have a proper primary to pair up with. Mind Control probably would be the best bet.
EDIT: Ninjitsu Control would be epic. |
Would it be possible to have a debuff/control added to the attacks in Martial Assault? Every other Assault set has a secondary effect across the majority of powers (Ice: -slow/-recharge, Earth: -defence, Thorns: -defence/DoT, Fire: DoT, Electric: -end, Psionic: -recharge, Dark: -to-hit, Energy: stun/knockback). With the set being lethal and smashing it needs something to help it along and to synergise with the primary.
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It wouldn't be too hard to cook up a 'natural' control set. Less than lethal weapons and the existing Devices set could be a place to look for inspiration. Gas grenades for various effects. Beanbag guns. Grab ol' flying turret and beef it up a little for the T9 pet.|
Originally Posted by Zandock
The problem I have with Martial Assault is just no natural primary to go with it. Shurikens + Martial Arts works awesomely for a Batman style character, but not if I have to pair it up with Mind Control or something.
EDIT: Not to say that the set isn't interesting. This is just a nitpick. I'm still rather excited to be able to try this out. |
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It seems comparable with Archery and Martial Arts in that it has no secondary effect. Though maybe it could use some KD.
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Originally Posted by Snowzone
This is another factor that killed whatever excitement I had for this new set and Dominators are by far and away my most favouritest of all the ATs. Ninjitsu Control would be amazing and would make me interested again.
Would it be possible to have a debuff/control added to the attacks in Martial Assault? Every other Assault set has a secondary effect across the majority of powers (Ice: -slow/-recharge, Earth: -defence, Thorns: -defence/DoT, Fire: DoT, Electric: -end, Psionic: -recharge, Dark: -to-hit, Energy: stun/knockback). With the set being lethal and smashing it needs something to help it along and to synergise with the primary. |
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Sounds like good stuff.
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Originally Posted by enderbean
These powersets were announced in today's TwitchTV broadcast. They will be in I24 and are free for VIPs:
Martial Combat (blaster secondary) Chi Push (repel followed by knockback (cool new animation) Storm Kick (melee) Dragon Kick (melee) Dragon's Tail (PBAoE melee) Burst of Speed (AoE self TP) Reach for the Limit (Build up auto powerChance for +dam and +ToHit on every power) Reaction Time (toggle+absorb over time, +revocery, -move on enemy; 10 seconds of +speed on toggle off) Inner Will (self heal and ,ez breakonly unsable under 50% end or health or when mezzed) Throw Sand (cone foe stun) Martial Assault (secondary for Dominators) Shuriken Throw (has a new animation) Thunder Kick (meleeMA port) Trick Shot (chain powershuriken bounces between targets) Spin Kick (front facing cone like the incarnate power without the teleport) Envenomed Blades (build up power; adds toxic damage to all attacks for a time) Dragon's Tail (PBAoE melee) Caltrops Masterful Throw (snipe; chance for DoT damage) Explosive shuriken (single target with chance for splash DoT) |
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Originally Posted by mauk2
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"Kick Rocks." I laffed so hard. Never change, E_L! |
Are they obsolete yet?
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Is it in the Dom set? If not, can you elaborate on the Tier 9? At the moment it seems...underwhelming compared to Psy Shockwave or Power Burst, in other words heavy hitters. What's the chance for splash damage?
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Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
Eagle's Claw is actually in the set.
In the video, we were mostly highlighting the unique mechanics of the powerset, but Eagle's Claw is most definitely present! |
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Nah wait for Street Combat and Urban Assault to come out.
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Originally Posted by Starflier
Are they obsolete yet?
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Gah! I'm trying to cure my altitis, and now I've got Martial Combat locked for release day one! Curses!
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Ok, new idea:
Replace the T9 in Martial Combat with FINISHER, which has a unique kill animation for everything it brutally murders.
And it says FATALITY after.