Martial Combat and Martial Assault
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Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2012-08-01 11:32 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Its a teleport aoe damage power yes but when used it instantly recharges and can be used another 2 times before its normal recharge time takes affect. This power can be used to say teleport into a group, nuke and then teleport back out very quickly. It also has a 120ft range
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
Burst of Speed (AoE self TP) - Is there anymore description for this one? Is it a teleport damage aoe like we've sen before?
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Yes, damage and it instant recharges twice so you can essentially use it three times quickly, like jump into the middle use your nuke jump right out then back in to finish off anyone left and its range is much longer than other aoe teleports. I think it was 120' maxed.|
Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
•Burst of Speed (AoE self TP) - Is there anymore description for this one? Is it a teleport damage aoe like we've sen before?
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Was Burst of Speed's animation shown in the Coffee Talk? I'll look it up if so when I get home from work. If it was shown and you have the rough time, I'd appreciate it!
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Yes and no. The first two times you use it it will do a PBAoE damage and instantly recharge itself. The third time it will not deal damage and also won't instantly recharge.
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Originally Posted by lankey
Its a teleport aoe damage power yes but when used it instantly recharges and can be used another 2 times before its normal recharge time takes affect. This power can be used to say teleport into a group, nuke and then teleport back out very quickly. It also has a 120ft range
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Originally Posted by Paladin
Was Burst of Speed's animation shown in the Coffee Talk? I'll look it up if so when I get home from work. If it was shown and you have the rough time, I'd appreciate it!
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It looked kinda like the ninja run stance and just -instantly- appearing where the marker is placed. Just -zip- -zip- and so on
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Originally Posted by Paladin
Was Burst of Speed's animation shown in the Coffee Talk? I'll look it up if so when I get home from work. If it was shown and you have the rough time, I'd appreciate it!
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Originally Posted by enderbean
These powersets were announced in today's TwitchTV broadcast. They will be in I24 and are free for VIPs:
Martial Combat (blaster secondary) Chi Push (repel followed by knockback (cool new animation) Storm Kick (melee) Dragon Kick (melee) Dragon's Tail (PBAoE melee) Burst of Speed (AoE self TP) Reach for the Limit (Build up auto powerChance for +dam and +ToHit on every power) Reaction Time (toggle+absorb over time, +revocery, -move on enemy; 10 seconds of +speed on toggle off) Inner Will (self heal and ,ez breakonly unsable under 50% end or health or when mezzed) Throw Sand (cone foe stun) Martial Assault (secondary for Dominators) Shuriken Throw (has a new animation) Thunder Kick (meleeMA port) Trick Shot (chain powershuriken bounces between targets) Spin Kick (front facing cone like the incarnate power without the teleport) Envenomed Blades (build up power; adds toxic damage to all attacks for a time) Dragon's Tail (PBAoE melee) Caltrops Masterful Throw (snipe; chance for DoT damage) Explosive shuriken (single target with chance for splash DoT) |
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Yes, they showed it (Zwill used it repeatedly, hehe). I'd say it was within the first 15 minutes, or there about... But I'm just guessing.|
Originally Posted by Paladin
Was Burst of Speed's animation shown in the Coffee Talk? I'll look it up if so when I get home from work. If it was shown and you have the rough time, I'd appreciate it!
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They got pretty quickly to showing off the Blaster Secondary. It was the first thing after saying Hellos, stalling and all that.
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Originally Posted by enderbean
They will be in I24 and are free for VIPs
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That sounds AWESOME. @_@
i24 is becoming almost too good.
This looks interesting and is a nice surprise (to me, anyway).
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According to the description, that's only partially true - it buffs your resistance to status effects so the 2nd mez will be shorter.
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
Just a note about the mez break to those that didn't listen to the feed. It breaks a mez but does not offer further protection, so a quick 2nd mezz can get you.
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Looks like a nice set, don't get me wrong....but is anyone disappointed that a "ranged" AT is given secondaries that are "melee range" for activation?
I could see re-doing my Archery/Devs blaster with this powerset (not that I ever would!!!!) and it's fit into his "natural theme," but.....I want secondaries that are actually ranged.
Ranged is a MAJOR benefit to avoiding death for blasters. At least the way I play mine
Meh, wake me up when secondaries are actually ranged (or, like the mez protection, can be used at a distance and be benefical still.)
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If they weren't disappointed by Blasters having Melee attacks in May 2004, I don't know why they would now.
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Originally Posted by Mr_True_Shot
Looks like a nice set, don't get me wrong....but is anyone disappointed that a "ranged" AT is given secondaries that are "melee range" for activation?
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The problem is its so powerful it pushes out all other secondaries.|
Originally Posted by Arbiter Hawk
The way it works is by applying mez protection to your character of exactly the magnitude of mez currently affecting you, plus one. It does give you mez resistance (which reduces duration of future mez) and mez strength (increases the duration of any mez you have), as well as a small to moderate heal. The power is powerful, but since it can only be used while you're CC'ed, under half health, or under half endurance, it needs to be potent when used in those limited conditions.
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Blasters can often already cruise through mobs when there is no mez being applied, its when the mezzes start flying that blasters start dropping.
Dont get me wrong I like the power
But you are going to HAVE TO bring other secondaries up to this level.
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Aren't most blaster and dominator secondaries mostly melee range anyways?
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Originally Posted by Mr_True_Shot
Looks like a nice set, don't get me wrong....but is anyone disappointed that a "ranged" AT is given secondaries that are "melee range" for activation?
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I'm super happy to see these sets coming and I think they're doing a great job.
I have to be honest though and say that this Blaster secondary isn't quite what I was hoping for in a Martial Arts secondary.
I think the main offender for me is the first (have-to-pick) attack, Ki Push.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great idea and should be an awesome power (and many people will enjoy it... and even I will with the right concept).
It's just well beyond (enormously beyond) the "natural" set of powers some of us have been craving for a Blaster secondary. That is my only "complaint" about this. It's not really a complaint though as much as just a slight/tiny disappointment that this secondary is not the secondary I was looking for... move along.
I say this because the attack is a Repel and not a KnockBack... so, it creates this slow, lift and carry away the flailing enemy... I realize now, it's actually a great substitute for Force Choke, hehe...
I just would have preferred something (that you're forced to take) to be toned down for either concept... but they went with the Bullet Time flavor.
Still, I think both sets will be great additions to the game.
Honestly, I love what they've done with the Dominator Assault set and have to admit to wanting something along those lines for Blasters...
Would have loved some shuriken goodness in this secondary.
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Hmm...nice...
I don't think I'll be using these new sets but I like more sets so I'm not complaining
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Yep. Arbiter Hawk came in and clarified in this thread..
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Originally Posted by JayboH
According to the description, that's only partially true - it buffs your resistance to status effects so the 2nd mez will be shorter.
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My level 50 uses Ice Manipulation and except for the dreadful T9 power, I'm pretty happy with it. Ice Patch offers a lot of safety and control, and Shiver comes in very handy when I'm teaming. Also, I'd rather have a full-blown buildup power than what was shown today.|
Originally Posted by Shubbie
The problem is its so powerful it pushes out all other secondaries.
Blasters can often already cruise through mobs when there is no mez being applied, its when the mezzes start flying that blasters start dropping. Dont get me wrong I like the power But you are going to HAVE TO bring other secondaries up to this level. |
So, no, Ice Manipulation isn't "pushed out." It could be better than it is--and it will be in I24--but I'm not sweating it compared to martial combat. But who knows? Nobody has played martial combat yet.
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Originally Posted by Mad Grim
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mostly? no, but it is a mix. And Martial arts has been oft requested as a blaster secondary.
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Originally Posted by Vyver
Aren't most blaster and dominator secondaries mostly melee range anyways?
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Martial Combat (blaster secondary)
Chi Push (repel followed by knockback (cool new animation)
Storm Kick (melee)
Dragon Kick (melee)
Dragon's Tail (PBAoE melee)
Burst of Speed (AoE self TP)
Reach for the Limit (Build up auto powerChance for +dam and +ToHit on every power)
Reaction Time (toggle+absorb over time, +revocery, -move on enemy; 10 seconds of +speed on toggle off)
Inner Will (self heal and ,ez breakonly unsable under 50% end or health or when mezzed)
Throw Sand (cone foe stun)
Martial Assault (secondary for Dominators)
Shuriken Throw (has a new animation)
Thunder Kick (meleeMA port)
Trick Shot (chain powershuriken bounces between targets)
Spin Kick (front facing cone like the incarnate power without the teleport)
Envenomed Blades (build up power; adds toxic damage to all attacks for a time)
Dragon's Tail (PBAoE melee)
Caltrops
Masterful Throw (snipe; chance for DoT damage)
Explosive shuriken (single target with chance for splash DoT)
And now the Blaster Secondary just needs a set to go with Archery to round it all out (which will pave the way for a mild Trick Arrow revamp hint hint hint hiiiiiiiiint.... hint)!