Whatever Happened to Golden/Silver Age Costume Parts?

I just hope the new tights come with very cool modern tights, but also with skin tights versions.
We already have plenty of patterns and textures, but more tights variety is always cool, and most of the patterns are very old.
But we definitely need more tight with skin, both for males laking more variety and for female, because they have a lot of "body painting low-res" stuff.

TBH I haven't heard the community, at large, crying out for Golden/Silver Age costumes either.

Having read Zwillinger's responses and the counter responses to them, I can appreciate both sides of the argument here. On Zwillinger's side, he's beholden as his job description mandates to evaluate a standing issue and determine if it's worth taking to a development meeting to make a case for it. Whatever form that takes, be it about graphics, costumes, whatever.

On the player's side (and I think this is crucial) you have a group of people (however much of a minority you could classify it) that are actively and often times vocally calling for an issue to be promoted beyond a discussion point. That vocalism was demonstrated not once, but twice over two very long threads that were extremely detailed, and very nuanced in what expectations were going to come of a Golden/Silver Age costume set.

Now imagine the reactions of those players who worked directly with Noble Savage when they see a costume set not only advocated for by (in their perception) an even smaller minority at the Player Summit, but one that arguably has been pushed for less than the ones they themselves put substantial effort into. I have personally played this game for nearly six years now and have seen actual threads for Post-Apocalyptic costume parts perhaps....a dozen times, at most. Golden and Silver Age costumes I've seen incredibly regularly come up in threads. That may be a subjective viewing and hardly empirical, but it's very difficult to argue measured data in one thread and then not do the same for the other.

I also appreciate that the Player Summit promises player interaction and has to deliver, or the bad PR that results would genuinely hurt the company. The point being made here from a lot of posters is that a similar amount of work from arguably a larger number of posters which resulted in a more defined and applicable costume set was passed over for a less defined and nebulous set that was created by even less people. It's not hard to see a perception that states that the argument for not having a Golden and Silver Age themed set being that of not enough players asking for it could be applied to the Post-Apocalyptic set, because even less people were present and asking for it, but the mandate of 'Create a Costume set' was in place at the Summit.

I realise it's a rock and a hard place situation, but I don't find the posters in this thread (myself included) are coming from a place of entitlement more than a place of wishing for equal representation.



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I think the biggest issue with wanting costume parts like tights and things designed for a bygone era of costumes is that this game is very much set in the modern world... as such, it would seem like some of the art folks won't want to dig into the past for something like tights that are being made now, in the present day. Other past-themed costume sets focus on items that are only available from that setting (but I am likely forgetting stuff).

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Originally Posted by Xzero45 I actually mentioned something about that, if you didn't notice. Totally understandable, I typed a lot.

I saw you mentioned it... prolly shoulda worded my post better, but I wanted to include the image so that folks knew what they WIP designs looked like.

I'm glad the people who want post-apocalyptic pieces, space pirate things and such are getting sets, though I have no use for them myself.

More golden/silver age costume parts is my #1 want for new costume pieces too. I'd like to see maybe a new type of tights so that people using the look of the current sets don't lose their costumes. Essentially it would do for CoH what Alex Ross did for golden and silver age characters, updating textures, adding a few details like trim for gloves and boots.

The retro sci-fi boots are a good step in that direction: I've switched to using the plain version on a few characters because they're just more realistic-looking than what shipped with the game originally. I don't have any retro sci-fi characters, but the generically useful pieces really helped. Same with the leather armor set.

The heart of the matter is that when Noble Savage posted a thread asking what we wanted some of the forum community responded. What they asked for WAS indeed Golden/Silver Aged style costume pieces and textured bits to help enhance the overall CoH experience for not only them but all the player base. The main thing is I guess since a Redname posted it we assumed that it was going to happen.

Now let me say that I'm a huge supporter of CoH and have purchased every single costume pack they have created. Some things I use more of than others but I feel it's up to us to support the game that we so obviously love and care about.

Yes when the Casey Jones errr...Road Warrior uhm Post-Apocalyptic bits come out I will also purchase them. Some things I will use some others I most likely will not. What I think we are trying to say is we don't mind all of the new stuff that's coming out, heck as indicated we whole-heartedly support it, but we want the Golden Age stuff too.

I'm absolutely 100% fine with where their priorities are and the costume sets we've gotten.

Do NOT speak for the "community".

Just cause we haven't gotten golden age costumes yet DOES NOT mean they are not prioritizing what the community wants.

There are so many things the community wants it's not even funny.

They have never said we're never getting them. We will get them. Eventually.

There's about 1000and 1 costume pieces that I want BEFORE any golden age stuff, but I'm not mad that they haven't gotten to it yet.

And I couldn't care less what the "competition" does. A golden age costume set isn't going to suddenly save how horrible like a burning thousand suns those other competing superhero games are. Personally I find the golden age era of comics cheesy as hell. I'm glad comics got a bit more sophisticated.

EDIT: Also keep in mind that this game DOES NOT just represent golden age. If anything this game's comic book influences are anything but. Just because the focus of the costumes are not on that area doesn't mean they've suddenly dropped the ball on the comic book partial focus of the game. This game has NEVER been just a living breathing representation of comic books. And thank god for that.

I'll just say I completely disagree with a lot of the stuff that was said here. I'll be nice and keep what I really think about some of the comments made here to myself.

I look forward to the golden age lovers finally getting the costume sets they've been waiting for. I also look forward to the folks of "insert comics/fantasy/sci-fi area here" finally getting the costume sets they've been waiting for also.

Sure, make Silver and Golden Age costume and weapon pieces but make them limited time, Tier 9 VIP items.