By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2012-07-06 14:17 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It means they found a way to make it brighter!
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
Unless you need another Kinetic Combat Mule, then it's pretty damn useful.
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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Originally Posted by DarkSideLeague
...You already slotted out brawl?
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Originally Posted by Shadowblaze
Ha, I think if you nerfed Hasten, the forums would EXPLODE.
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Explosion be damned... [Hasten] probably should be nerfed a bit. Or, as was suggested a while back, split it into two powers: Hasten would have like +40% Rech, and a new power with 2 pre reqs would get the rest.
I know, I know... heads are asploding with rage right now...
Hasten is 'fine'. I'm not sure why people think Hasten is a culprit above IO Defense Bonuses.
Nerf Hasten? Nerf those too. Then you can nerf basically every other thing in the game. Let's nerf Brute Fury again, and Rage while we're at it. Take Titan Weapons down a few pegs as well.
Really, when people call me a Nerf Herder? At least it's for recent stupidities. Not things that have been around since Issue 0.
FWIW, I agree with all those other "nerfage" calls as well, Reppu. And to me, the fact that the power has been an outlier this long makes it all the more worthy of balancing.. not less so.
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Originally Posted by Reppu
Nerf ... Rage
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
FWIW, I agree with all those other "nerfage" calls as well, Reppu. And to me, the fact that the power has been an outlier this long makes it all the more worthy of balancing.. not less so.
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Originally Posted by Reppu
Hasten is 'fine'. I'm not sure why people think Hasten is a culprit above IO Defense Bonuses.
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Honestly, I think that any serious nerf to the recharge/defense metagame that we've had for years upon years would be so jarring to the hardcore playerbase that it could damage the game's image and population in ways the development team wouldn't want to chance.
Major reworks of game systems late in the life cycle of an MMO are a very, very dangerous proposition that have killed many games before this one, and I would really hate to see that happen here.
I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
Every AT finds boxing a waste.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I'd absolutely be thrilled if they announce pool customization.
Hasten's been nerfed once already. I still miss the old version.
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
Every AT finds boxing a waste.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
My SS Brute says 'Thanks for an attack that's better than Jab and makes my low level attack chain brutally fast'
Actually, I think it'd more be along the lines of "BROOT SMARSH!!" |
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Originally Posted by Bronze Knight
I rember I asked about a min FX option for hasten and Posi said he could't talk about it. I don't know if that adds or subtracts credence to the anoucment being pool customization.
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
It means they found a way to make it brighter!
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Indeed. It seems to me that if Recharge is an issue that needs to be addressed, then, like Defense, the main avenue to address the issue should be to attack the various IO global recharge bonuses. It's my opinion that there should've just been global caps in place rather than the five-bonuses-of-a-certain-numeric-value limit.
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Originally Posted by Agent White
I would honestly rather have the devs spend their time bringing up the low end outliers (cough, blasters, useless powers, etc) than trying to curb what's "over the top".
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Originally Posted by Reppu
Really, when people call me a Nerf Herder? At least it's for recent stupidities. Not things that have been around since Issue 0. |
While we are discussing nerfs to Recharge... a great way to fix the IO side of things would be to put the LotG +Rech bonus in the same category of other similar sized bonuses to force it to obey the Rule of 5... and not be in some special category by itself.
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Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
While we are discussing nerfs to Recharge... a great way to fix the IO side of things would be to put the LotG +Rech bonus in the same category of other similar sized bonuses to force it to obey the Rule of 5... and not be in some special category by itself.
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nerf IO's? nerf hasten? nerf luck of the gamblers?
What is wrong with you people? Its like you've all gone mad.
wait, is this coming from people who cant afford the inf for a decent build? Cause these idea's are beyond ridiculous. IO's are amazingly cheap now. If you think 100 mil is a lot, well, you just arent very good at this game.
My ability to buy said IO has zero to do with my somewhat tongue-in-cheek suggestion, I have several.
And yes, Rajani Isa, that is precisely what I meant.
Given the rarity of 7.5% recharge bonuses, I'm not sure that would really change much.
RevolverMike's continued inability to comprehend why anyone would want anything to be less powerful is as silly as ever. I don't think that changing IOs or Hasten would be a particularly good idea, certainly not at this point in the game's life, but it is in fact possible for someone to think otherwise for reasons other than jealousy and incompetence.
