All Things Character Art

Originally Posted by Amerikatt

Hi, Dink! *rawrs*

If you have time on your schedule, would you please add (cuffed) ankle boots?

Originally Posted by Angelxman81

And for the tights sets, if the coming set only include patterns and textures for tights, please do another set for skin tights.

Originally Posted by Lothic

The one little desire I've had for roughly 8 years now is to have a version of the female "Bikini 2" item textured in the "shiny" style.
I've always wanted to make a unitard outfit with the existing "tights shiny" top matching with a shiny version of the "Bikini 2" bottoms.

Surely something like that would be trivial for the great Dink to accomplish.

Originally Posted by BrandX

Been wanting the same thing! Sleek tights gives off a less "painted on" feeling than the regular tights. To bad it just doesn't have a bikini bottom that matches up with it :/

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Here's what I mean:



This is Tech Crey, Tech Wired and Techbot on a base, unaltered female model, and they conform to the female form perfectly. Whether that form is realistic or desirable isn't really the issue, but that's the "default" look Paragon Studios picked for women, and when used as textures over Tights, these armour sets look appropriate. Considering these seem to have been painted over a flat chest, they fit the female chest shape without too much distortion.

These seem to work well to me. Are they the problem?



These are the Tights version of Defence plus the Armoured version of Tech Wired with Large boots and gloves, as well as the Armoured version of Steampunk with Large Robotic boots and gloves, plus the Tech Banded boots since that set has no boots to go with it.

The Defence set looks pretty much identical to the previous screenshot. If anything, the alternate-fabric areas on the sides of the torso seem distorted in how they "ride up" over the breasts, whereas it's clear they were designed for men to sit on the sides of their chest. I imagine having a thick seam like that over the breast might chafe.

The other two are obviously somewhat ungainly, but that has less to do with the pieces being designed for men and more to do with the fact that the Armoured top and bottom geo is crap. If anything, comparing the female Armoured top to the Male armoured top will yield almost no similarities. Women have a much narrower waistline, where their Armoured tops actually meld into their model's lower abdomen and upper... Buttocks, whereas for men there's a very obvious jutting fold like like they're wearing a baggy shirt, which clips with pretty much every belt I've tried to use it with.

Speaking about the bottoms specifically, I want to point out that of all the textures you can use the Armoured bottom with, the old ones work the best, as they're designed to fit the geo shape. Tech Wired, Steampunk, Armour Plate and Medieval look AMAZING with that geo. Techbot, Valkyrie, Tech Sleek and the newer ones look like crap because their textures are just split wherever the armour mesh happens to jut out.

The Steampunk gloves ARE horrible, there's no question about that, but they're horrible less because of their bulbous model and more because their texture is hideous. Extremely low resolution for a texture that's supposed to convey a lot of fine detailing just results is a fine mess, and there are few better examples of this than Steampunk. We either need higher-resolution textures that can show the texture's details, or otherwise we need textures that try to show fewer fine details and concentrate on the larger ones.

When it comes to the shape of the female bottom and the Large Robotic gloves, this is likely crossing over into personal opinion, but... I personally like them. The gloves are easily my favourite in the game and I've used them repeatedly. The pants... They're a bit weird, but I like their shape and I plan to use them more often. I'm not sure if they're specifically feminine, possibly because I'm not sure we have a static definition of the term, but they're feminine enough to my eye.

Again, that's not to argue, but more trying to figure out exactly what you're referring to, and if it's something I'm not seeing or if we just disagree on the matter of aesthetics.

Originally Posted by BrandX

I was fully supporting it none the less, I'd make use of it as I've got plenty of characters who'd go lower, all i did was disagree with the use of "realistic" in your statement.

More so when C makes up the largest percentage (in america) today. Sooo...realistically, minimum slider is realistic as it's the average, which you were saying it wasn't.

Originally Posted by Lothic

The one little desire I've had for roughly 8 years now is to have a version of the female "Bikini 2" item textured in the "shiny" style.
I've always wanted to make a unitard outfit with the existing "tights shiny" top matching with a shiny version of the "Bikini 2" bottoms.

Surely something like that would be trivial for the great Dink to accomplish.

Originally Posted by Schismatrix

So it's realistic to have the average as the absolute minimum? That sounds odd to me. If the waist slider started at the American average and only went up from there we'd have City of Waddlers and Walruses or maybe City of the Blob. (The latter possibly getting Marvel's boxers in a bunch again.)

Totally agreed, but it was an interesting digression even if it is admittedly mostly off topic, as was the digression into base woes.

On the current topic/focus i don't see the female armored top versions as being especially bad or odd looking. To me they mostly look like what i would expect heavy armor to look like on a female.

As far as art assets go the monstrous/digitigrade legs could really use some love. As in adding some tech/robotic feet that are adapted from any of the sets that came out since the category was added to the game. Basically anything that doesn't look like the current horribly clunky robotic feet. A monstrous version of the Clockwork or Cyborg legs would also be good. i was so hoping the Mecha set would have something for the digitigrades, but it was not to be.

Originally Posted by BrandX

You either missed the point or didnt read the whole discussion. She said the minimum slider wasn't realistic in that women weren't normally that endowed.

Now. It still gets brought up, what is the minimum slider, B or C? If you think it's C and the slider goes up from there, that's still 1) realistic as over half (at least in America) the female population is C or bigger.

Now, if you say the minimum is B (and in discussing this slider, I find many think the minimum is a large B) then really what the slider doesn't show is A and less.

So either way, it's REALISTIC.

But you also missed the part where I said, I want the option to go smaller. So I was never against the idea. But using the term realistic to try to get something, when it is realistic were it's at, is meh in use.

Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU

Can we have a full proper skeleton set?

I don't mean the Skeleton mask but something like these guys:

Originally Posted by Tenzhi

Yeah, I've been there before. And just the other day I was wishing there was a bikini bottom that wasn't quite so narrow, too. (EDIT: Though, perhaps at that point it technically wouldn't be a "bikini" bottom. I wanted something between the bikini and the shorts options.)

Originally Posted by Dr_MechanoEU

Can we have a full proper skeleton set?

I don't mean the Skeleton mask but something like these guys:

Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa

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Originally Posted by Eva Destruction

I'd like a version of the "Disco" booty shorts without the thigh-highs.



Wait, so the American average is our minimum....I fail to see what point you're trying to make here. Plus, let's not forget that the average American woman is bigger all over than what we can make in the character creator.

You know what I'd like to be able to do? I'd like to make a skinny male character that doesn't look really really odd.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Here's what I mean:

Again, that's not to argue, but more trying to figure out exactly what you're referring to, and if it's something I'm not seeing or if we just disagree on the matter of aesthetics.

Originally Posted by _eeek_

Sorry for not replying sooner, Samuel - and I never thought you were arguing at all, no worries!

I should have clarified my post(s) better - I was speaking strictly of aesthetics when I said most of the armor pieces - and armored tights, for that matter - do not look good except on the (regular) male models for which they were designed.

I cannot imagine any super heroine saying to herself "I am a SUPER! I will do great and amazing deeds! The eyes of the entire WORLD shall be upon me!

"...Now, what can I wear that will make my thighs look really, really fat...?"

Originally Posted by BrandX

And yet, we have players who seem to think being in the business of the extremely phsycial (you know, being a superhero) means lots of overweight heroes!

Originally Posted by Tenzhi

Ah yes, the extremely physical act of floating lazily along avoiding the use of your legs and pointing a justice-dispensing hand at bad guys. I wish I could do that exercise program in real life.

Originally Posted by BrandX

Really, I can't think of a hero that just flies all day. Is there one that does such a thing? Maybe in The Tick?

Originally Posted by Premonitions

Wrong rebuttal, Ten.
Here, let me try

Originally Posted by _eeek_

I cannot imagine any super heroine saying to herself "I am a SUPER! I will do great and amazing deeds! The eyes of the entire WORLD shall be upon me!

"...Now, what can I wear that will make my thighs look really, really fat...?"

Originally Posted by Premonitions

Wrong rebuttal, Ten.
Here, let me try