Let's chat seriously about PC Animals...
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AmazingMOO,
Posted on: 2012-04-12 13:43 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Something like that would cause a lot of emote and animation problems.
@Golden Girl
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I think that's rather beside the point, though. The OP asked:|
Originally Posted by SuperOz
Well, I have to concede the idea is interesting, but just because there are cartoons or video games with animals wielding weapons in their mouths, doesn't mean it necessarily equates to supehero canon.
At the very best, you have superpowered animals, and they're strictly a niche/novelty area of the genre (Legion of Superpets, anyone?) and at worst, they're anthropromorphised into animals with human-shaped bodies. I have trouble honestly seeing this get up as an idea beyond minion status as we have it with Beast Summoning. Things are already crowded if you have one set of player-controlled animals on a map, and to add to that with power effects...? I could just imagine the furore that'd cause on the forums. I see things at a near-critical mass as it is right now, and I think this would push things over the edge a bit, to be honest. S. |
"While some may consider that to be the end of the line of the rig, I'd like to think that the use and steady improvement of the rig means that we'll have player-controlled animal models in the not-too-distant future.
Obviously, this is a ton of work, but Paragon ALSO has a ton of skilled folks working there at the moment. I don't think it's an unreachable goal.
That said, what do we, as players, expect from PC animals? "
If you think using the 4-leg rig anymore is overexposure or a player controlled body type unlikely is a perfectly reasonable stance (I, for one, don't think we'll ever get it) but that doesn't answer the OP, now does it?
technically we already have snake people in the game. the issue with the request is not that its impossible but that they cant just chop up animations, new body types need entirely new animations, both older ones and going forward. many of these ideas would personally work for me, but I realized that the amount of animation work required would make them unlikely as body types.
as is fairly common gray market information right about now, shapeshifts into unspecified animals seems to be a likelihood, and they currently exist for khelds, and that solves the animation issue by forcing players into non-customizable forms with limited animations. that is far more reasonable than making them body types, which the developers have been understandably hesitant to add.
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Very likely, and not unspecified |
Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
shapeshifts into unspecified animals seems to be a likelihood
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@Golden Girl
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i have seen zwill's rocket launcher
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god help me, I pictured it with a jaunty chapeau.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
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i have seen zwill's rocket launcher |
In the room the women come and go
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...they have that powerset. Beast Mastery/Traps. Detonator, and all that.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Well, the Soviets experimented with anti-tank dogs, but I don't think players would like that sort of powerset very much.
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.....'Cause that's JUST what this game needs, references to "Disney verses." |
Originally Posted by Arilou
There's a ton of half-human half-animal-type superheroes, not just Tigra. And that's just talking DC/Marvel, and not say... The various Disney verses.
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I'm not really coming up with any other Marvel/DC halfbreeds other than Tigra and the truly craptacular Beta Ray Bill when casting my mind over those specific universe, but if you say there's a metric ton of them, whatevs.
Demanding player access to the CoX version of Beta Ray Bill strikes me as making about as much sense as going over to Lord of the Rings Online and saying, "WHAT THIS GAME NEEDS IS SOME GIANT MORPHING ROBOTS, YEAH!"
Lord of the Rings is fantasy, they have no robots that I know of and this would be inappropriate to expect giant robots in that MMO. [Analogies never work, yet I try anyways] We already have enough furries behaving disgracefully in Pocket D, can't see a need to make the problem worse. Be grateful we have as much furry stuff as we do.
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Everyone behaves like that in the D on Virtue, not just the furries |
Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
We already have enough furries behaving disgracefully in Pocket D
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@Golden Girl
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That is... the height of ridiculous. I hope nothing like that ever happens in this game.|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
Ahem.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
One Piece is awesome like that.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
"That said, what do we, as players, expect from PC animals? "
[...] but that doesn't answer the OP, now does it? |
In answer to the OP, if they were to give us player controlled animals, I picture them doing a cross between how kheldians currently operate and the DC character Beast Boy. We would learn how to transform in to different animals as we level and those forms would have different attacks and powers that could be improved upon.
Devs would post more if they could say "hi!" without people whining because they wanted them to say "hello".
-Nethergoat
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I've got, as possible translations... to have fur, internet phobia, and anthropomorphic characters.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
People keep using the word 'furry'
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In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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Well, now. If Felicia cosplayers aren't right, then I'll just have to be wrong.
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Originally Posted by JayboH
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Blood Widow Ricki * Tide Shifter * T-34 * Opposite Reaction * Shaolin Midnight * ChernobylCheerleader
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And that particular one looks pretty right, IMO.|
Originally Posted by SpyralPegacyon
Well, now. If Felicia cosplayers aren't right, then I'll just have to be wrong.
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On topic, I find it rather funny how some will take a simple circumstantial question so personally, like the very thought of it will endanger their life so will make any excuse, argument, exaggeration or stereotype to discredit the topic. I wouldn't put it past someone to go to such lengths to make racist comments if only they wouldn't be modded soon after.
Despite my posting in the thread, I'm *far* from taking any of this personal as that'd be pointless. The same crop of intent arose when the Animal Pack was released, when the vanity pets were sold and soon when the next related update is released. It's obviously harmless so no point in taking those particulars any more seriously than that.
Let's just hope, when I get by rocket barking dog, I don't remember this thread and necro it to rub it in.
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Not wholly sure who you're addressing/arguing with.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
On topic, I find it rather funny how some will take a simple circumstantial question so personally, like the very thought of it will endanger their life so will make any excuse, argument, exaggeration or stereotype to discredit the topic. I wouldn't put it past someone to go to such lengths to make racist comments if only they wouldn't be modded soon after.
Despite my posting in the thread, I'm *far* from taking any of this personal as that'd be pointless. The same crop of intent arose when the Animal Pack was released, when the vanity pets were sold and soon when the next related update is released. It's obviously harmless so no point in taking those particulars any more seriously than that. |
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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Anyone that would begrudge me/others when I'm rolling out a 4-legged character into Paragon City.
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
Not wholly sure who you're addressing/arguing with.
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See, I figured it was related to that but it was like, you were responding to a lot more than what was being said, so I got confused.|
Originally Posted by Leo_G
Anyone that would begrudge me/others when I'm rolling out a 4-legged character into Paragon City.
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Anyway, a lot of nerds have a furry phobia. Because... cooties, or something. God knows. I just remember all the sturm and drang over the animal pack. I'm not immune. I was worried about using an animal in my name in case people thought I was one. I fail at being smug and above it all.
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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Well, it's this kind of attitude that makes me wish it would happen even more, and which motivates me to support those who want it to happen.|
Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
That is... the height of ridiculous. I hope nothing like that ever happens in this game.
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So, Leo, you want sword-biting dogs? OK, I'm with you on that
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I want my sword-dog to have a rainbow.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Well, it's this kind of attitude that makes me wish it would happen even more, and which motivates me to support those who want it to happen.
So, Leo, you want sword-biting dogs? OK, I'm with you on that |
In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.
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You should have tried searching for "wrist-mounted dog launcher."
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
I tried Googling "dog launcher" but that only got devices to launch balls for dogs to chase. Surprisingly, searching on "dogapult" gave better results.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Did you see that video of the Gray wolf Sif using a sword from the Dark Souls game? I linked it in a previous post. That'd basically be a preview of what I think it'd look like.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Well, it's this kind of attitude that makes me wish it would happen even more, and which motivates me to support those who want it to happen.
So, Leo, you want sword-biting dogs? OK, I'm with you on that |
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Indeed, this thread is dominated by the sound and the furry.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
People keep using the word 'furry
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This is what happens when too many heroes and villains start dipping into the Well of the Furries.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
Indeed, this thread is dominated by the sound and the furry.
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How about a centaur, wemic, or similar? A hybrid humanoid/4-legged model might be possible now.