2nd set of ATIOs spotted on beta
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8_Ball,
Posted on: 2012-04-06 18:42 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Nope, whatcha got there are pics of non-catalyzed sets!
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Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch
I have a question about spiders bite.
Are these the catalyzed versions we are looking at on page 1? If not... Spiders bite would provide 5%? damage for each 2 slotted. 3 2 slot sets of catalyzed is 15% damage, plus the damage on every attack, worth probably another 1 or 2%. So you are looking at up to 20% extra damage possibly. +Musculature, you could have 65% damage _all the time_ at 50, before additional buffs from set bonuses. It seems conceivable that between spiders bite, musculature, and other things, you could have a full 100% damage bonus, for a walking bonus of 300% damage to all attacks. That is INSANE. Of course if its just 2.25%, well, thats not as spectacular. Like wise, 2.25, if not catalyzed, may be as much 6.5% max hps. On something like a tanker-crab, that could be significat, especially stacked with serum.... |
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Holy *******. I dont know if I want 15% dam or if I want 6% health....
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Originally Posted by Tater Todd
Nope, whatcha got there are pics of non-catalyzed sets!
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It won't be directly double the number of that damage. Scrapper set critical strike says 3.5 damage but supeior scrapper strike only give %4 damage. My best bet is it is same for SoA one and it will give %3 or %4 damage tops for purple set.|
Originally Posted by OneFrigidWitch
Holy *******. I dont know if I want 15% dam or if I want 6% health....
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EDIT: Just checked superior spiders bite it gives %4 damage bonus.
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Well, 12% is way better than 7.5.
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Originally Posted by Kangstor
It won't be directly double the number of that damage. Scrapper set critical strike says 3.5 damage but supeior scrapper strike only give %4 damage. My best bet is it is same for SoA one and it will give %3 or %4 damage tops for purple set.
EDIT: Just checked superior spiders bite it gives %4 damage bonus. |
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Regen, extra max endurance and defense? Pretty good imo, could use it to replace a set like Touch of Death or whatever you currently might use to get Melee defense into your build. The extra resistance is something I could take or leave, (would prefer a health bonus), especially considering I know the Purple version will only increase those 2.21%s up to a whopping (note the sarcasm), 2.52% as is the case with the current Tanker ATO set, but the bonuses aren't bad, just wish it had some global recharge or max health.
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Originally Posted by Justice_Bringer
And of course, the Tanker bonuses still suck.
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With the Dom and Troller procs having such a low ppm would putting these in an AOE be ok? I can only fit the proc on the AOE sleep on my Dom.
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Place it in your group immob. It fires almost all the time for my Dom and Troller in my Immob.
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Originally Posted by RevolverMike
With the Dom and Troller procs having such a low ppm would putting these in an AOE be ok? I can only fit the proc on the AOE sleep on my Dom.
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Can we get our hands on the new set on Beta? I thought it was just the info on them. And being a Mind dom, I dont mess with (or get for that matter) Immobs as I deal with better controls. :P
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Originally Posted by Tater Todd
Place it in your group immob. It fires almost all the time for my Dom and Troller in my Immob.
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Tested out the 2nd SATO dom proc (2 ppm). In an 8s rchg (your ST hold or in my case subdue) I was getting a good number of procs. The pet doesn't last very long and overall it's pretty passive, it just stands near enemies and deals about 10-11 dmg to them every 2 seconds. I'd typically have about 2 of them up, and I would occasionally spike up to 5 pets as shown below. Also the pets have 1000 hp, they are targettable by enemies and they enemies will attack them. Typically they will expire before an enemy can actually deal 1000 dmg to them, exceptions being trial avs will probably be constantly 1 shotting them with their pbaoe spam.
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Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
Tested out the 2nd SATO dom proc (2 ppm). In an 8s rchg (your ST hold or in my case subdue) I was getting a good number of procs. The pet doesn't last very long and overall it's pretty passive, it just stands near enemies and deals about 10-11 dmg to them every 2 seconds. I'd typically have about 2 of them up, and I would occasionally spike up to 5 pets as shown below.
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They look awesome and on my Mind/Fire they fit with theme. Whats your thoughts on them? Would you keep or pass? I'll have to look over my Mains build and see what I can switch around.
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I don't think they are that great. This ATO pales in comparison to the first ATO proc for doms, in standard content you won't even notice their contribution.
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Originally Posted by RevolverMike
They look awesome and on my Mind/Fire they fit with theme. Whats your thoughts on them? Would you keep or pass? I'll have to look over my Mains build and see what I can switch around.
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They were actually originally discovered by conversion of ATOs using Enhancement Converters. I haven't checked to see if you can actually buy them with various merits the way you can the ones that are live, but if nothing else you could convert the ones we can get on live. Unless they turned it off, you can buy unlimited Empyrean and Astral Merits from the Ouro venders, which you could use to buy both ATOs and large numbers of converters to use on them. Tedious, but certainly one way to obtain them.
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Originally Posted by RevolverMike
Can we get our hands on the new set on Beta? I thought it was just the info on them. And being a Mind dom, I dont mess with (or get for that matter) Immobs as I deal with better controls. :P
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I agree, the 2nd set for doms are ok but the first ATO set is better.
the Controller version summons the Incarnate Storm elemental pet.
New mastermind set is so much better than the dismal first one
And still no new Targeted AoE recipes...
Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
Arc Name: Tsoo In Love
Arc ID: 413575
The new Brute set bonuses are kind of lackluster...
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I suspect it is a mechanic that will be used in the Symbiotic Armor set they are working on.
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Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
This strongly suggests a new defense mechanism, and probably also a new defense set.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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You don't need to "suspect" anything. Since it's mentioned in the official Pummit summery, it's now ok to talk about Absorb.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
I suspect it is a mechanic that will be used in the Symbiotic Armor set they are working on.
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I really should do something about this signature.
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The ATO's can go into Targeted AoE powers.
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Originally Posted by EnigmaBlack
And still no new Targeted AoE recipes...
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The BrandX Collection
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Excellent Counter! I forgot he was one of the few who could not be easily swayed by the force.
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Originally Posted by rian_frostdrake
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It's also in Nature Affinity.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
I suspect it is a mechanic that will be used in the Symbiotic Armor set they are working on.
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Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
/facepalm - Apply Directly to the Forehead!
Formally Dragos_Bahtiam - Abbreviate to DSL - Warning, may contain sarcasm
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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Is anyone else disappointed to see that the controller and dom sets being slated to still only go in control sets?
Was really, really hoping the new round of them would go into attack powers.
The set bonuses my controlling characters want most are found in the control sets already available.
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The kind of sets they'll go into will never change. They've flagged on every AT which powers will slot ATOs. |
Originally Posted by _eeek_
Is anyone else disappointed to see that the controller and dom sets being slated to still only go in control sets?
Was really, really hoping the new round of them would go into attack powers. The set bonuses my controlling characters want most are found in the control sets already available. |
Which is.. yeah pretty disappointing since they don't seem to want to add in any damage modifiers to the sets :P
Slottable at level 10, untill you upgrade them.