2nd set of ATIOs spotted on beta

Just saw this quote..and although I didn't think of it before, the more I consider..you are totally right. I was just looking at the procs for the new set and came to the following conclusions.

The scrapper set is a 50% crit chance. That is a HUGE chance, since eagles claw only gives 33%..and no other powers give anything. Considering how scrapper-like the stalker changes made stalkers (too much if you ask me, it blurred teh ATs too much), this just screams damage control to me. I can just see the devs talking..

'wtf guys, we turned stalkers INTO scrappers, and stole their inherent, only better! With the ato proc, its crazy good!'

So then they come up with an IO to give scrappers the ability to get a huge crit chance..which still doesnt compare to stalkers who can crit on demand..


The new stalker ato proc. A chance for bu rech. Seriously? An IO, that mimics the 'special' mechanic that KM stalkers get? Way to think outside the box. Not to mention that km on stalkers is totally broken..a friend can stack BU 3 times..without IOs, and use that OP aoe for 600 damage! Cue another dev convo...

'Hell, Guys! Km is like, way awesome, we better give the other sets a way to compete, instead of like, adjusting Km! I know..we will just COPY the km mechanic, woohoo!'

Now clearly they dont think KM stalkers are OP. I do. Even a simple change like making CS recharge bu only..25% of the time would be a good adjustment. 25 of the time is still damn good. But I guess it doesnt matter..since soon we will be able to throw the NEW stalker ato in AS..and have it go off everytime anyway! Perfect solution..

As Dread said..they are using the ATOs to 'balance' things...instead of actually FIXING the things themselves. Not a good thing. But hey..I CANT wait till an ato comes out that cuts power activation time by 80%! That way, they can 'fix' energy melee, without actually using their brains.

(Note, I am NOT saying the procs are not awesome. Just that the apparent thinking behind them is very suss)

Both my dom and my Controller have both procs from their ATO sets slotted on the beta server.

In the SAME POWER.

Originally Posted by Shubbie Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.

Chuck Testa

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Would Psi melee involve lots of headbutting animations?

In other words, don't start planning your builds around them, they'll almost certainly be changed, and maybe a lot.

On the other hand, it's good to know those piles of catalysts will have some future uses.

The way they go about implementing some of these things in the game is well....sloppy at best.

Tighten it up devs.

IDK, I suppose 10% or so might be into that bumping heads deal or at least that is what the stats say.

Keep it loose. I like knowing stuff.

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You obviously misunderstood the meaning of tighten it up as used in this case as I like knowing stuff too.

No.

It's Beta. Things are sloppy and unfinished in Beta. That's standard operating procedure and the reason to have a Beta. That's the way it is in all MMOs.

Expecting Beta to be a preview of a finished product is the unreasonable expectation. Beta is to *test* and find bugs (and leaks) so they they can be tightened up.

Loosen it up, player.

You too obviously misunderstood the meaning of tighten it up as used in this case as nobody but you said anything about expectations of a BETA being a finished product.

Do you wake up come here to my post just looking for fights or is clarification a better place to start?

You need to loosen up before you just charge in fists a blaze looking to fight.

FYI, my use of tighten up in the context of the discussion was about the catalysts. Scroll up.

As I've said in other threads, the problem is not that the leaks exist -- given that the studio works concurrently on multiple game updates, they're unavoidable. The problem is that, since you don't need a special invite to take part in VIP betas, some players see this as free reign to post every last shred of information about those leaks that they can to public areas of the board.

And for those wondering: Yes; I AM making a statement by posting in every thread related to leaked content.

I'm not sure what "send ourselves into a spiral" means, but since I don't get to do it often: this mastermind set looks so much better than the other mastermind set, it's like night and day. The bonuses are good, the proc is nice, but most importantly (for me) the stats are much, much nicer than the original one. You couldn't pay me to slot the current mastermind set, but this one I'd go to a fair amount of trouble or, dare I say it, expense, to get my hands on.

Spiral...

Every beta has been like this. I expect every beta will continue to be like this. I'm not sure why it bothers you quite so.

Geometry Manipulation coming soon?

Information wants to be free, yo.

Hinting and teasing for weeks instead of giving real updates...yeah that is annoying as heck YMMV.

Not that I have much to really say about them specfically, but the "leaks" so far (new power pools, new power sets, an entirely new defense/healing mechanic, and now new ATIOs) are more interesting to me than a lot of the officially-announced additions (which mostly seem to concern players who have already gotten all their Incarnate slots unlocked and pimped out).

New Power Pools potentially affect the performance and playstyle of all of my characters of all levels, and new Power Sets mean I can realize character concepts I couldn't before, but even my two level 50s have a long way to go before they're ready to take on Tyrant (they don't even have their Alpha slot unlocked yet - and won't until I get a new job), so a new Incarnate trial and a new Incarnate slot doesn't affect them in any way.

.... man, I need to get employed so I can re-subscribe