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Sigh...

Yesterday and today I can't tell you how many iTrials have failed. I am sooo frustrated at the constant failures of the easiest trials I had to quit and calm myself. I have maybe seen 6 level 53 players total across at least 10 trials. I too got a new level 50 out of the weekend so I contributed to this issue also.

I even led a few today, always asking if anyone on the league were new to them in case I needed to explain or direct things. Nope, not one person would speak up.

On a Keyes we had AM down to 61 health before the final phase. I think I probably said to stop hitting him at least 6 times. At least we beat it with 2 min left to spare.

On a Slambda we got Maurauder to a quarter health and people were still hitting the adds instead of him and we failed.

I was on 3 BAFs that had the AVs refill their lifebars during the final phase.

ARGH


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just more reasons why i love the DA revamp lol, i havent done a single trial since i finished the DD badges lol


 

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just more reasons why i love the DA revamp lol, i havent done a single trial since i finished the DD badges lol
Yeah, I am tempted to do those until people learn and level up more.


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I've apparently been relatively lucky. I got my grav/ff controller to 50 over the weekend (finally) and while I have limited playtime during the week in the couple hours I've been able to log on I've done a BAF, Keyes and a TPN. Now in none of them was the entire league lacking level shifts, but generally about half or a little more was made up of new 50s.

While all three of them were 'harder' than they were before the weekend, and I could see how some of them lately might fail, all three of them ended up being successful. My controller's now 50+1 so yay I suppose.


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Yeah, that's what made me take a break - we just needed to take down Maurauder's health - he had a quarter left - and I would have been 50+1 from it. bleh


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Did several BAF/LAM/Keyes since this past weekend - no fails. I didn't get a toon to 50 (36 though so I guess not too bad). After this weekend spent the past few days working on my earth/fire/ice dom doing trials - up to +2 now woot


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I've been doing okay. I've only failed two trials.

One was a BAF, because people were new and didn't get the chokepoint thing, but on a second run we got it done with (I think) no escapes. I know I got that badge at -some point- that day.

The other was a DD, which occurred because the leader got ambitious and set us up for an MoDD when only a few people had everything slotted. We died during the Sentinel fight.

Another issue which wasn't a failure (but came kind of close) was another MoDD run where the leader would barely speak to us, and only put a few ranged people on Essence duty. Fortunately, I remembered I had a bunch of Team +Damage and + Accuracy imbuements in my inbox, so on my mad dash back from the hospital I started spamming them like a crazy person. I saw the Sentinel's health bar drop dramatically immediately. After that, aside from the difficulty killing essences, it went pretty well.

Pretty much every other trial has been fine, though.


 

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Sorry but an unshifted incarnate cant complain about lack of level shifted toons on a trial so soon after a dbl xp weekend


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Sorry but an unshifted incarnate cant complain about lack of level shifted toons on a trial so soon after a dbl xp weekend

This lol

I find it odd that the OP is complaining because iTrials are difficult for new 50s. That's rather the point - the trials are meant to be a challenge and if they are too much of a challenge you've a whole new zone to play in.

This is clearly somebody feeling over-entitled.

Just be glad many of us got new 50s to play with and enjoy



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I just find it ironic how much people say 'Oh, the current trials are too easy, there's no challenge to them, everything in this game is too easy'.

And then curbstomp happens.
(Note, not aimed at the OP, just heard that sort of comment too much over the months)


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Worst I have seen is 10 prisoner escapes in BAF. I guess I have just been lucky. I hit 50 on my first ever non-melee toon, a baster. So I was really scared that it was going to suck, was pretty happy that it didn't. Sorry you have been having a rough time of it man.


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ARGH
Sure I can see how it might be frustrating. But it's hardly surprising.

You have a combination of experienced players running newly-minted Incarnates which don't have the level shifts to play well regardless of the experience of the player playing them combined with a bunch of inexperienced players who probably just got their first Incarnates power-leveled over the weekend who don't know what they're doing yet.

Give it a week or two and everything will get back to normal.


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It is hit and miss regardless, but sure yes there are more new 50's after dbl xp weekend as expected.


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This is why I only play my level 50s on DXP weekends.

I don't speed level anything that I don't know how to play.
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Many people probably powered through archetypes that they otherwise find cumbersome to play (a primarily Scrapper player may have used this weekend to power through a Controller, for example).

I'm with the general consensus: give it a couple days, and it will be back to normal.


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This is why I only play my level 50s on DXP weekends.

I don't speed level anything that I don't know how to play.
That's me too. I have never had a level 50 Controller before, and was working on getting one there. I really wanted to go through all the 40-44 story arcs, and ended up doing that on DXP weekend. So I got to 44.9 and turned off XP after two arcs, and spent the rest of the weekend earning double Prestige.

I dinged 50 last night, though.


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Sigh...

Yesterday and today I can't tell you how many iTrials have failed. I am sooo frustrated at the constant failures of the easiest trials I had to quit and calm myself. I have maybe seen 6 level 53 players total across at least 10 trials. I too got a new level 50 out of the weekend so I contributed to this issue also.

I even led a few today, always asking if anyone on the league were new to them in case I needed to explain or direct things. Nope, not one person would speak up.

On a Keyes we had AM down to 61 health before the final phase. I think I probably said to stop hitting him at least 6 times. At least we beat it with 2 min left to spare.

On a Slambda we got Maurauder to a quarter health and people were still hitting the adds instead of him and we failed.

I was on 3 BAFs that had the AVs refill their lifebars during the final phase.

ARGH
Well, good. No offense to you but we need more failures and more complaints about the original trio to add to the datamining so when someone comes up with the "brilliant" idea of Empyrean unlocks for new iPowers and locking out slot progress just because of an apparent higher success rate.

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This lol

I find it odd that the OP is complaining because iTrials are difficult for new 50s. That's rather the point - the trials are meant to be a challenge and if they are too much of a challenge you've a whole new zone to play in.

This is clearly somebody feeling over-entitled.

Just be glad many of us got new 50s to play with and enjoy
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I just find it ironic how much people say 'Oh, the current trials are too easy, there's no challenge to them, everything in this game is too easy'.

And then curbstomp happens.
(Note, not aimed at the OP, just heard that sort of comment too much over the months)
Agreed (except for the over-entitled bit). As I said; we need more visible failures to put the kybosh on any future progress-locking mechanics tied to the Incarnate system.

I'd like to see more of these players that complain 'everything is too easy' try and do a trial WITHOUT all their comfy iPowers and then say 'it's too easy'. You can bet they'll reply 'why should I?'.

Eco ran a DD trial on the beta when it was shoe-horned in as the post-epilogue. The teams failed consistantly at the second phase. The test conditions was 50s with a tier 2 Alpha. Without the shifts; they couldn't overpower the shifted AVs regen.

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Sorry but an unshifted incarnate cant complain about lack of level shifted toons on a trial so soon after a dbl xp weekend
I think he does. This is exactly the reason I won't do trials anymore. The vacuous attitudes of those who think it's a cakewalk and the stress of either me or them being single-handedly responsible for failure. Suddenly 'there's no I in team' becomes 'there is a U in suck'.


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it is so annoying when content is challenging rather than farming mode


 

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Over the last two days I've done:
2x Keyes, both successful
1x SLAM, successful
1x MoM, messy but successful
1x DD, time expired at Sentinel
1x TPN, successful
4x BAF, 3 success 1 fail at prisoners because people didn't really get the choke point method

Previous to those I haven't run a trial since before Keyes went in. I'm on a newly 50'd controller but it is my 2nd 50 controller, 24th 50 overall and 44th character in total. All that is just to say that even though I may not know the mechanic of a trial, explain it and I'll figure it out. I've done this enough to know what I can and cannot do with my character, even when I was only 50+1 (still only that actually).

It can get aggravating when you spend 15-20 minutes forming only to fail in 5. Just dust off and go again.


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This lol

I find it odd that the OP is complaining because iTrials are difficult for new 50s. That's rather the point - the trials are meant to be a challenge and if they are too much of a challenge you've a whole new zone to play in.

This is clearly somebody feeling over-entitled.

Just be glad many of us got new 50s to play with and enjoy
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Worst I have seen is 10 prisoner escapes in BAF. I guess I have just been lucky. I hit 50 on my first ever non-melee toon, a baster. So I was really scared that it was going to suck, was pretty happy that it didn't. Sorry you have been having a rough time of it man.
I'm over it after some sleep - I did some DA stuff and got the one last emp I needed to get my first level shift.


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Originally Posted by Lothic View Post
Sure I can see how it might be frustrating. But it's hardly surprising.

You have a combination of experienced players running newly-minted Incarnates which don't have the level shifts to play well regardless of the experience of the player playing them combined with a bunch of inexperienced players who probably just got their first Incarnates power-leveled over the weekend who don't know what they're doing yet.

Give it a week or two and everything will get back to normal.
Very true. I've relaxed a little after last night and ran some DA content to get my final emp for my first level shift.


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That's me too. I have never had a level 50 Controller before, and was working on getting one there. I really wanted to go through all the 40-44 story arcs, and ended up doing that on DXP weekend. So I got to 44.9 and turned off XP after two arcs, and spent the rest of the weekend earning double Prestige.

I dinged 50 last night, though.
Congrats!


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Originally Posted by Tyger View Post
Well, good. No offense to you but we need more failures and more complaints about the original trio to add to the datamining so when someone comes up with the "brilliant" idea of Empyrean unlocks for new iPowers and locking out slot progress just because of an apparent higher success rate.
Yeah, I don't think they will make that mistake again after the outcry.


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it is so annoying when content is challenging rather than farming mode
Now now... I am talking about failing at least half of the iTrials I was in due to this.


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