Speculation on an upcoming prehistoric fashion extravaganza!
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Posted on: 2012-03-15 08:27 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Well, they're fish, aren't they? Fish have fur. Unless they're sharks.
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Originally Posted by Midnight_Guard
Ahahahahaha, what, are you serious? Oh god lol
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When I was a kid, dinosaurs had scales and I'm pretty sure they weren't giant birds. It's like paleontologists sit around all day thinking "Hmm, how can we make giant killer reptiles look like pansies?"
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I've not heard anything about any dionsaurs in future content 
But they did pull an crocodile head and other reptile parts from the animal pack - it was listed in the patch notes, but then changed very quickly, and any posts quoting it also disappeared.
As it was over a year ago, that seems like quite a long time to hold them back for a 2nd animal pack - so it's possible that they could be keeping them back because they're connected to some larger bit of content.
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Yeah, get those feathers off of the dinosaurs before putting them in CoH, please.
Honestly, though, I don't even think I'd actually want dinos in CoH as an enemy group purely because it'd seem a little too silly and out there for the game's overall theme. CoH tends to be more serious than, say, a game like CO where random dinosaurs fit in perfectly. But as costume parts, they'd be jawesome. Just, ya know, without feathers.
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No, we've just evolved in different directions. Evolution isn't a ladder from "less evolved" to "more evolved"; evolution doesn't have some goal it's headed for.
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Originally Posted by Party_Kake
humans are more evolved than dinosaurs.
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technically, every generation is slightly more evolved than the last. So yes, we are.|
Originally Posted by Obscure Blade
No, we've just evolved in different directions. Evolution isn't a ladder from "less evolved" to "more evolved"; evolution doesn't have some goal it's headed for.
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And although I believe that there is a goal that we're headed for, that's neither here nor there and we shouldn't derail the thread.
Scaly dinosaurs please.
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Originally Posted by Party_Kake
that's neither here nor there and we shouldn't derail the thread.
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Evolution has no goal. It's just life adapting to whatever is the current local environment for it. To say that is has a specific goal means you think that particular process is conscious and has a will of its own, apart from whatever will may be possessed by any individual lifeform, which sounds kinda silly (also rather scary: I wouldn't want to be a mere puppet for some nebulous "thing" that somehow has control over every creature on the planet!). I'm also pretty sure that our galaxy does not have some deliberately planned destination in mind as it moves steadily away from every other galaxy in the universe.
Now, if you're talking about humans using the process of evolution in our own favor, that's something else entirely. In fact, there's even a whole other word for it.
As far as dino costume bits, I wouldn't be satisfied unless they allowed something like this picture:
I like my dinosaurs to remind me that a chickadee would have once hunted me down and eaten me if it had the chance.
I would like a feather skin, if this happens, because it'd be good for bird characters too.
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I want to know what this goal is and if it involves laser eyes.
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Originally Posted by Party_Kake
technically, every generation is slightly more evolved than the last. So yes, we are.
And although I believe that there is a goal that we're headed for, that's neither here nor there and we shouldn't derail the thread. |
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Talking of Michelangelo.
Yeah, this is one of those situations where I think science should take a backseat to the rule of cool. I'm with Jurassic Park! Scaly dinosaurs forever!
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Comic book characters and punching dinosaurs goes hand in hand. See, Devil Dinosaur and the Savage Land. It's just a matter of finding a way to squeeze them in.
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
Yeah, get those feathers off of the dinosaurs before putting them in CoH, please.
Honestly, though, I don't even think I'd actually want dinos in CoH as an enemy group purely because it'd seem a little too silly and out there for the game's overall theme. CoH tends to be more serious than, say, a game like CO where random dinosaurs fit in perfectly. But as costume parts, they'd be jawesome. Just, ya know, without feathers. |
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I've not heard anything about any dionsaurs in future content
But they did pull an crocodile head and other reptile parts from the animal pack - it was listed in the patch notes, but then changed very quickly, and any posts quoting it also disappeared. As it was over a year ago, that seems like quite a long time to hold them back for a 2nd animal pack - so it's possible that they could be keeping them back because they're connected to some larger bit of content. |
Aye remember them saying they pulled it for a possible reptile/dinosaur pack. Got so excited about that
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Originally Posted by EU_Damz
Aye remember them saying they pulled it for a possible reptile/dinosaur pack. Got so excited about that
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Spielberg was making a movie. for profit. they did consult with paleontologists, and one in particular [he-who-shall-not-be-named] has been marked forever by ok'ing the dilophosaurus as-was and other things. they knew when dilophosaurus was discovered that it had no frill and didnt spit poison. the movie wasnt exactly to the book, no movie is. poison or not, they stuck up a lot of things about dinos that were wrong. i.e. T-Rex had excellent vision and if you didn't run... you'd be chicken nuggets.|
Originally Posted by MajorDecoy
They did the best with the research they had at the time. It has been twenty years.
Besides which, Spielberg was telling a story, not making a documentary about dinosaurs. On top of that, he was adapting a novel. I don't remember if the frills were mentioned in the book, but the poison certainly was. |
but true, the movie was just that. a movie. also, based on a book. Crichton was a great author.
shrug anyway my main point of the post is that:i heards rumors of the pack, and ah wants feathers in it.
also, just came to mind:
dino-zombies.
who's with me?!
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Originally Posted by Demobot
When I was a kid, dinosaurs had scales and I'm pretty sure they weren't giant birds. It's like paleontologists sit around all day thinking "Hmm, how can we make giant killer reptiles look like pansies?"
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I've not heard anything about any dionsaurs in future content
But they did pull an crocodile head and other reptile parts from the animal pack - it was listed in the patch notes, but then changed very quickly, and any posts quoting it also disappeared. As it was over a year ago, that seems like quite a long time to hold them back for a 2nd animal pack - so it's possible that they could be keeping them back because they're connected to some larger bit of content. |
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
I like my dinosaurs to remind me that a chickadee would have once hunted me down and eaten me if it had the chance. I would like a feather skin, if this happens, because it'd be good for bird characters too. |
also note: ornithischians and sauropods were in fact, scaly... or skinned like an elephant. so, that is to say, non-theropods, were scaly. scaly still fits with dino's y'all, calm down.
but theropods and raptors had feathers.
also, birds came from... and sort of arr: dinosaurs :P. fact.
.... out of all the requests that have been made, we're getting a pack based on dinosaurs, in a comic-book themed game.....? Seriously? Really.....?
Ugh. Fail.
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Dinosaur skeletons have been found with feathers? Except for archaeopteryx, can't say I've heard much about all that.| and no... when you find lots and lots of dinosaur skeletons with feathers... you kinda have to start telling people about it. |
Dinosaurs having feathers is the new "cool" speculation. Last time I heard they were all allegedly sporting wildly striped and spotted skins. I think we can safely say that these theories are just that: theories. People sitting around blueskying, keeping the grant-money flowing.
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Yeah, you´re of course right. Dinosaurs and Super Heroes really don´t mix, as if one of the big two publishers would do something ridiculous like that. puh-lease.|
Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
.... out of all the requests that have been made, we're getting a pack based on dinosaurs, in a comic-book themed game.....? Seriously? Really.....?
Ugh. Fail. |
Oh, right...
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I'm pretty sure they never said anything like that at all |
Originally Posted by EU_Damz
Aye remember them saying they pulled it for a possible reptile/dinosaur pack. Got so excited about that
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the dinosaurs that had scaly skin were: ornithischians [hadrosaurs, stegosaurs, ceratopsians[though they did have tail quills], and ankylosaurs] and sauropods. entire mummified bodies of hadrosaurs [duck-bills anyone?] have been found with preserved skin impressions and hints of patterns i believe.|
Originally Posted by Bad_Influence
.... out of all the requests that have been made, we're getting a pack based on dinosaurs, in a comic-book themed game.....? Seriously? Really.....?
Ugh. Fail. Dinosaur skeletons have been found with feathers? Except for archaeopteryx, can't say I've heard much about all that. Dinosaurs having feathers is the new "cool" speculation. Last time I heard they were all allegedly sporting wildly striped and spotted skins. I think we can safely say that these theories are just that: theories. People sitting around blueskying, keeping the grant-money flowing. |
buuutttttt... actually quite a few theropods have been found with feathers. a LOT from china [great quarries there] especially in the mid-90's further proving one of the long held main theories. again, i work at a dinosaur exhibit, and have worked in a paleontology laboratory, and frequently read up about these things
. i'm not an expert or anything but... oh wait... i am at work, my name tag says so, and i get paid for it XD. hehe [...i hope that doesnt sound snobby. it's supposed to be more funny than anything. pfft. me! an expert! on anything! lmao...]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feathered_dinosaur
it's a fact [theropods ~ feathers]. it has been for a long time. speculation? maybe forty years ago. but it has been widely accepted by some paleontologists for decades. google some articles
. recently, the color of some feathers of some dinosaurs have been uncovered via some sort of x-ray and chemical deduction business.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Nos482
Yeah, you´re of course right. Dinosaurs and Super Heroes really don´t mix, as if one of the big two publishers would do something ridiculous like that. puh-lease.
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also, think about it, lots of mutant-humanoid critters exist in all sorts of comics. the point of releasing sets with PARTS is to mix and match with or against the theme of the set itself. feathered raptor or spiked stegosaurus tails would be great on an asian-dragon character.
I'm an amateur paleontologist as well and I can't add much to this topic other than:
1) Bob Bakker is odd and fun, he has a great hat, he's a decent sketch artist but his fiction is meh. He should allow more peer review of his theories.
2) Pterosaurs and Mososaurs, plesiosaurs, and their aquatic ilk were NOT dinosaurs. Only the terrestrial dudes fall into "dinosaur" category.
3) Theropods taste like chicken. (I know, I'm so old I was there)
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Originally Posted by daveyj3
Spielberg was making a movie. for profit. they did consult with paleontologists, and one in particular [he-who-shall-not-be-named] has been marked forever by ok'ing the dilophosaurus as-was and other things. they knew when dilophosaurus was discovered that it had no frill and didnt spit poison. the movie wasnt exactly to the book, no movie is. poison or not, they stuck up a lot of things about dinos that were wrong. i.e. T-Rex had excellent vision and if you didn't run... you'd be chicken nuggets.
but true, the movie was just that. a movie. also, based on a book. Crichton was a great author. |
And, while the movie did have a lot of inaccuracies, I think it actually helped a lot of people's perception of dinosaurs.
I mean, mass perspective of dinosaurs shifted from
to
In part because of this movie.
I had the British Museum dinosaur models, there was a clear distinction in design in the models molded after a certain year.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
I'm pretty sure they never said anything like that at all
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Yes.
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Originally Posted by Lothic
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
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They've posted the wrong patch notes before, but it's usually just the ones for the next build coming down the line, and when it's pointed out to them they acknowledge it and edit them.
But for the animal pack note, they just edited them, and then deleted every quote of the lizard/crocodile part, and acted as if the mistake had never been there at all.
And it's not like it could have been a misprint either - plus, the lizard parts were at the stage where they were included in the internal patch notes, so they do exist - and it's unlikely that the devs will let the time and effort spent on them go to waste
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