How to Write a Character Story on this Game


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Since I never said I do you literally made a post with no point. But to answer you, good for you that you are happy making meaningless characters that strangers wont ever look at and say hm that looks familiar, have your bio read, then recieve a tell saying " damn man that is like a perfect bio, you got it all, didnt miss a thing, and your build, the way you dress, the way you sit there at the bar telling stories of the old days, its just so right on man thanks for making my day"

You see I get tells like that often, my friends lists on my characters are all long full of fellow players who enjoy such a style. I still fondly recall meeting Hero One at the D once. we had a nice long chat about the good old days( keep in mind we where total strangers in truth) but thanks to our love of lore we could easily interact, and soon others came up to join in the lively discussion.
And that's great that you get tells like that from other people that enjoy that style. That does not make other characters meaningless simply because their players chose to create something new rather than make one that's their interpretation of what a signature character would be like if it was walking around and interracting with players more directly.

Not to knock your idea of fun but, I'd say the reverse is truer. Characters like Bentley and Cole don't need you to tell their stories. They've got a whole MMO about them.

The only way others are ever going to know about the stories of those so called meaningless characters is if their players tell them and sometimes, those stories are far better than anything you'll learn about by talking to NPCs about the missions they want to send you on.


 

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not helping unions rep saying they dont have any quality standard for RP. You do know anyone who actually is worth RPing with goes to virtue, those who go to lesser servers and thier minor RP populations are there to be ignored by thier server community, unlike virtue which is ruled by its RP community. And Lore in every form be it minor or major is far more important then so called freedom. In my experiance those who ignore lore are the worst of god moders.
This is just... wow... First off, just because someone doesn't RP on Virtue it doesn't mean they're not worth RPing with. I feel pretty qualified to say that considering I've been RPing on Virtue for about five years now and have run across some pretty good RPers on other servers as well as made a couple characters on Union specifically to see how the RP there differs from on Virtue and had fun doing it.

Also gotta say that how strongly someone adheres to the lore of this game is not really important and does not make someone a god moder. I have a character that never tries to do more than engage people in polite conversation about a variety of topics and is far more interested in hearing what others think than trying to share their opinions. I wouldn't call that god moding at all but, this particular toon's backstory includes an explanation of how the universe was made that rips apart a sizeable chunk of lore and rebuilds it from the ground up. No, this character isn't responsible for the universe being created either. I just went the macro route for my character's story and fit the game's lore into it rather than going the micro route and fitting the toon's story into the game's lore.


 

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I write bios simply to amuse people. And by people, I pretty much mean me.

What entertains someone else is highly subjective. Other than amuse myself, my aim is to inject a sense of the characters personality. I write them all different ways - in first person, in third person, as letters, one as the summation of a psychiatric report, another is from PPD Hero Files report. I have some that are 1 or 2 sentences. Some struggle to fit in the allotted space. I don't think ANY of that matters. What matters is, do YOU enjoy the dickens out of your bio?

I think if people wrote in this fashion more often, we'd all enjoy reading them more, too.
This is my approach too. I love writing bios, but whenever I try a 'serious' one, they always turn out to be a bit ho-hum IMO.

I like the funny ones a lot though.

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Yeah, I was going to also, but that "LOL RPers" post pretty much made it obvious that this guy's been doing some serious Superadine.

Ah hell, I'll just say it anyway. His ideas of "good" are only good in the same kind of mediocre mind that introduced Youngblood to the world.

Also, DV's full of crap as usual.
But we did get Ironik to post up some nice backgrounds and costumes, so not all was lost. Hmm. Perhaps I should've taken the high road.


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I actually enjoy the challenge of creating a good bio in 1023 characters. It forces me to think and re-think my selection of words and the relevant information about the character that I'm trying to convey. Kind of like doing a drabble (100-word story) challenge.

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My only requirement is that the writing follows the correct format of proper literature. If the whole thing is in caps, I usually just stop. If the thing is a big block of text with no lines of separation, I can't read it because my eyes will jump from line to line and I get lost.

When I write my bios, I usually take up the whole space provided. My characters are just that: characters. They have a past, a present, a future, a personality, and exist dynamically. I can't convey nearly all of that in the bio, so I try to put down the important parts, which consist of the following:
  • Real name
  • Origin
  • Backstory
  • Motivation
  • Power explanation.
And I guess that is enough, because I get enough of those "great bio!" tells, even from the ones that I don't think are that good at all. What we need is a website like Crey Industries hero threat database, or Virtueverse, except for the all of the servers. Something like an extension from the main site that lets people write the elaborate tales behind their heroes.

Something I saw done once that I enjoyed so much that I did something similar myself was when someone took the backstory of their character and make an AE arc out of it. Me and a few guys play-tested it with him, and it was awesome. So, I made my own to help explain the more mysterious of my toon's bios.
...and this.

None of you knows my background, or me, which is okay. However, I can tell you from my experience in developing and writing that what Dark Respite and Blood Red Arachnid offer in advice for writing bios are very good.

When I have a number of writing assignment with a 200-word limit, you have to be able to convey to the reader your idea by showing them, not just telling them. I made it a practice to over write and then go back re-read, then edit it down to points that will show the story I'm trying to tell. It takes practice, lots of it. However, most people can pen a nice little bio for their characters if they take the time to do so.

Blood's format is a good format to follow. You can write a paragraph for each area and then edit down to the size limit using your information to tell a complete bio. The back-story we pen for our characters helps others for a better understand who our characters are. You can live it as is or update it as time passes. However, whatever you do is your choice. It is your choice.

Below is the bio of my Night Widow, Black Widow Maiden. I have written it so I do not have to worry about updating it. Some may like it and others may not. However, the bio does convey my character's story and I wrote it using a format similar to what Blood Red Arachnid suggested.

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As an orphan, Annabelle Carter ran the streets Kings Row with local gangs. Her saving grace was Sister Mary from the local child shelter and her unconditional love. That love would have a profound effect on Annie years later.

Eventually, she found herself in the Rogue Isles ultimately catching Fortunata Hamilton’s eye. Impressed by Annie’s boldness, Hamilton sense something special in her and had her “accepted” into the Widow program.

Annabelle found her calling in the Widows where she excelled, eventually earning the title Night Widow. However, while serving her patron, Ghost Widow, disenchantment with Arachnos began to grow. The final straw came when Recluse forced Annie to protect herself from him by stopping his Project Destiny that she sought a different path.

That fateful day forever changed her. Black Widow Maiden severed ties with Arachnos after she defeated Ghost Widow, Mary’s love gave her the strength to do so. She made her way to Paragon City and Sister Mary for redemption and forgiveness.


Current active characters: Dragon Maiden (50+3 Brute SS/WP/PM), Black Widow Maiden (50+1 Night Widow), Catayclasmic Ariel (50 lvl Defender - Kin/DP), Quantumshock (50 lvl Elect/Energy/Energy), American's Defender (38 lvl Tanker - SD/Mace), Spider-Maiden (15 lvl Corruptor - RB/PD) & Siren Shrike (15 lvl Defender - Sonic/Sonic). My entire stable.

 

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Before you have the thought police start telling people what to write about their OWN character - perhaps you just send the person a nice note saying glad to see you have a Bio.

Then if they reply as if they want to discuss it with you - then and only then - you start with the superior - I know how you should write your Bio better than you act.

Now after they /ignore you for being a jerk - realize this isn't your game or my game its OUR game and we can play it however we like including badly written Bio's (to your opinion) or no Bio's - to novelette's.


 

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My bios range from the lengthy to the short.

For example my Goo character (Gelatinous Ruse) has this as it's bio.

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It comes from outer space!

...It seeks only to Devour!

...It could be anyone, your brother, your sister, even YOU!

Beware the coming of the GELATINOUS RUSE!
That tells you very little about the character but I think it works.

Others, like my namesake, have a lot more backstory detail.

Does that make me weird?


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And that's great that you get tells like that from other people that enjoy that style. That does not make other characters meaningless simply because their players chose to create something new rather than make one that's their interpretation of what a signature character would be like if it was walking around and interracting with players more directly.

Not to knock your idea of fun but, I'd say the reverse is truer. Characters like Bentley and Cole don't need you to tell their stories. They've got a whole MMO about them.

The only way others are ever going to know about the stories of those so called meaningless characters is if their players tell them and sometimes, those stories are far better than anything you'll learn about by talking to NPCs about the missions they want to send you on.
Pardon I should have said meaningless to random folk who dont know you yet. Its the one part of this threads OP that is right on, if someone doesnt know you, and your bio doesnt catch them quick they likely wont keep reading, sometimes, infact oft times for me it is the name and or costume of a character that first draws my interest and I suspect that is not untrue of many others.

As for the choice to embrace a character drawn from lore. For Bentley Berkeley in example. calling him a signature character actually makes me feel like I am doing my role well, because two or 3 years back when he was still a fresh character, do you know the typical response when i mentioned he was drawn from game lore?

"There is an immortal wizard in cox lore?" Who is Bentley Berkeley? Where is he at in game?

Those are the main 3, still encounter them fairly often, which makes someone calling him a signature character, a term specifically applying only to dev and admin run characters who very much are off limits as I have explained in a number of my recent posts in threads.

Even the name Marcus Cole was one I never have actually used in play just amde a toon and shelved him a long time back, it was mostly a lark at the time to see if the name was even an option. Back then it never seemed like there could be a day when Jack the Tyrant-State and his reign over us would come to an end.

When Statesman is finally removed, it wont be any desire to portray his character that prompts me to make an active character using the name, no it will be the goal of creating a new marcus from another earth hell bent on saving this one his alter self has so thoroughly failed to look after. It will be to revel in the immerssion as I build a toon who is soley focussed on defeating a single specific AV ( not like soloing tyrant was ever hard even in the old days) The name, the face might have been seen and known before, but this game deserves a better class of character and if I have to I will make them myself and set an example for all.

Thankfully I dont. Just last night I ran into Hero 2 at the club, nice young lady. she was chilling by ms. lib and we chatted a few minutes about that golden age of the dawn patrol when Sir Alistair Sutton formed the group in 1923. We discussed what ever happened to that old soldier.( I myself like to imagine like captain america he got frozen somewhere during WWII)

But most interestly of all was an encounter with someone who apparently after reading this thread felt deputized by mob rule to come cyber stalk and harrass me while I was RPing with **** in the D. At first I was just gonna ignore him, especially after the needless public insults calling me all sorts of lovely remarks like a pedophile i assume because at the moment I was RPing with a group that included a 13 year old robot making nerd girl.

That by the way is the kind of behavior that people embrace when mob mentality takes hold of an otherwise rational mind.

You see eventually we finished with the egocentric posturing and started to actually talk. He came to understand that I really wasnt some god moder despite all the slander here to the contrary.

All it took was my examining his own character and how it can just as easily in the eyes of another be seen as a god mode, or a cheap knock off of a tv/movie/comic character. That just having his own name which again imo wasnt anything unqiue nor even very catching to the eye didnt make it his character in itself.

Specifically it took em 2 seconds reading his bio to make the comparison that he could be seen as a cheap harry dresden knock off, not entirely fair, but funny enough he actually replied with that indeed dresden had been the primary inspiration.

I then went on to explain how it was especially obvious knock offs, which to me often are more obvious then apparently to others, are among the most annoying and least inspiring kinds of so called original characters to RP with. I myself on **** also embrace abit of dresden when I go all occult detective mood so I do understand the desire to want to portray such entertaining characters.

And that is pretty much my point, I at least choose a character role and step into it to the best of my ability based on my love of this game and a desire to enriche the world by doing my own small part to expand it.

You call **** a signature character but he is ONLY seen in 2 virtually forgotton story arcs that are so well done and written they wont ever need any time wasted on a revamp and thus never see a new spot light shown down upon them. He is only lightly mentioned in Midnighter lore as one of the founders but he is not The Founder, and far from the biggest name in thier groups lore.

That is exactly what drew me to Bentley Berkeley to begin with, he is so unknown, so obscure that many people I meet in game rarely have a clue he is other then my own character until I explain where his character is drawn from. I rather love it when i get any tell even a confused arent you that npc in that one quest? I go hm have we met? sorry Im a time traveler and sometimes it gets abit wibbly wobbly. Yeah I toss in some doc who for ol **** to its great fun. i then explain to them all the same rules I have shared here time and again about what kinds of names from lore are OK and the need to be very clear with other players your just one of them and not something more.


 

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Hmm me, personally, I don't mind you creating a 'Statesman from another dimension'.

Admittedly I personally think there's enough of them but hey, there are enough alternate dimensions that it is quite feasible to do that. There is no problem with that claim although you will end up with the questions.

"Well why aren't you as powerful as our Statesman or any of his other dimension/time versions was/are?" Because the only other versions of Statesman ingame require a full team of 8 people to bring down or in the case of Tyrant a full 24 teamup of superheroes/supervillains of now godlike power. Note that Tyrant nolonger appears anywhere ingame, instead you fight an Olympian Guard (which is a watered down weaker clone of Tyrant according to lore).

"Why are you here? Surely if you exist that means you're needed more in your home dimension than here?"

While it isn't going to strike the same nerve that having a character claim they're the "Son of Lord Recluse and Red Widow" since...we know that to not be canocial fact. Heck why not have an original character who styles themself after Statesman to be "the hero he could not be."

That opens up lots of opportunity for expansion, will he go down a darker path trying to make sure justice is done or will he be an upstanding rolemodel to all these 'dark and gritty' heroes that playing by the book and doing the right thing CAN make a difference?

With regards using a character from CoH background lore, why not make your own immortal wizard instead of using him?

I mean hell it's not like immortal Wizards aren't uncommon in comic book lore or even, as mentioned, in CoH lore. Why take something that isn't your own and make it your own when you could simple make something that is your own?

You could still have had that conversation with Hero 2 (who is probably, like the example above, a hero who has styled themselves after Hero 1 rather than a canocial 'passed the torch' person) about the good old days of the Dawn patrol, you'd still be that immortal wizard but one of your own creation instead of an canoical NPC.

Wouldn't that be better?


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[QUOTE=FNG;4114306]This is just... wow... First off, just because someone doesn't RP on Virtue it doesn't mean they're not worth RPing with. I feel pretty qualified to say that considering I've been RPing on Virtue for about five years now and have run across some pretty good RPers on other servers as well as made a couple characters on Union specifically to see how the RP there differs from on Virtue and had fun doing it.

Also gotta say that how strongly someone adheres to the lore of this game is not really important and does not make someone a god moder. I have a character that never tries to do more than engage people in polite conversation about a variety of topics and is far more interested in hearing what others think than trying to share their opinions. I wouldn't call that god moding at all but, this particular toon's backstory includes an explanation of how the universe was made that rips apart a sizeable chunk of lore and rebuilds it from the ground up. No, this character isn't responsible for the universe being created either. I just went the macro route for my character's story and fit the game's lore into it rather than going the micro route and fitting the toon's story into the game's lore.[/QUOTE]

Good for you but that last part is one of the cornerstones to my view on god mode. Aspects of the games lore is kept intentionally vague we still dont know for example the true nature of demons just that they apparently pre date the gods and have power enough to let those who make pacts with them match even divinely taught magic. We know the shadow shard was created to containt the Rularuu, an entity not just intent on devouring mere worlds, but entire universes at a time. A predator of infinity if you will for in the games multi versal aspect there is no end to the number that exists for every action, every possible path is taken somewhere.

Even trying to give an explanation to the how or why is God Mode. Claiming the mantle of Valmaz I can admit was not without a level of arrogence, viewing him as having interest in Numina to annoy infernal might seem abit much, but trying to tell others how or why of the universe or even that you where there without a lore based character to at least sync up. That is a major example of god mode in my book. Might as well say you are the guy who created this specific timeline and imprisoned the rularuu while your at it, wouldnt be any more extreme.


 

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Hmm me, personally, I don't mind you creating a 'Statesman from another dimension'.

Admittedly I personally think there's enough of them but hey, there are enough alternate dimensions that it is quite feasible to do that. There is no problem with that claim although you will end up with the questions.

"Well why aren't you as powerful as our Statesman or any of his other dimension/time versions was/are?" Because the only other versions of Statesman ingame require a full team of 8 people to bring down or in the case of Tyrant a full 24 teamup of superheroes/supervillains of now godlike power. Note that Tyrant nolonger appears anywhere ingame, instead you fight an Olympian Guard (which is a watered down weaker clone of Tyrant according to lore).

"Why are you here? Surely if you exist that means you're needed more in your home dimension than here?"

While it isn't going to strike the same nerve that having a character claim they're the "Son of Lord Recluse and Red Widow" since...we know that to not be canocial fact. Heck why not have an original character who styles themself after Statesman to be "the hero he could not be."

That opens up lots of opportunity for expansion, will he go down a darker path trying to make sure justice is done or will he be an upstanding rolemodel to all these 'dark and gritty' heroes that playing by the book and doing the right thing CAN make a difference?

With regards using a character from CoH background lore, why not make your own immortal wizard instead of using him?

I mean hell it's not like immortal Wizards aren't uncommon in comic book lore or even, as mentioned, in CoH lore. Why take something that isn't your own and make it your own when you could simple make something that is your own?

You could still have had that conversation with Hero 2 (who is probably, like the example above, a hero who has styled themselves after Hero 1 rather than a canocial 'passed the torch' person) about the good old days of the Dawn patrol, you'd still be that immortal wizard but one of your own creation instead of an canoical NPC.

Wouldn't that be better?
You ask ina perfectly civil tone and I am happy to answer. Simply put I see it as god moding to make a character and call them immortal just because you want to be an immortal. One part to the story of Berks creation is that one day I encountered 3 very poorly concieved,written, and portrayed highlander esque immortals. totally different players, in different groups I ran or just happened to see around places like the talos WW.

As a big highlander fan I was initially curious to chat with fellow fans and discuss how they had adapted it to the coxverse, since obviously even in our game world having 10s of thousands of immortals running around head hunting would be abit nuts. Each of them more or less had gone with the I am the one and only immortal left attitude, effectly a connor at the end of 1 type view of thier power and ability. In other words a total god mode character concept. Only one was even 50 at the time. all had very ineffective and sloppy builds. One was a BS/Regen, i run a very well made one of those and even offered advice on how to make thier build both more effective and more in line with the ideas portrayed in the film since that seemed thier main focus. However it was clear in my dealings with each they where the kind who made an immortal to pretend to be the ONLY IMMORTAL.

It was this that got me thinking, well what immortals are there in cox. Not really alot I can tell you that. One however that popped up immediatly when I ran a search for Immortals in Paragon City on google was a link right to Pwiki and a nemesis story arc where we find the humble bentley berkeley has been captured and in need of abit of aid from some young heroes.

I decided then and there, and perhaps with no small amount of ego, that I could embrace a proper lore driven immortal and portray it without the oh I am the immortal one who is all knowing and powerful tude that it seemed my fellow fans of immortal based fiction seemed to lack restraint when being.

In otherwords the only way I would dare ever to call a character I played an immortal( an instant step on the path of godmode) unless he is one I take directly from lore, and one I felt is both obcure yet interesting enough to deserve at least one fan doing all he can to raise his standing in the view of the game world.

Of that I very least am suceeding in as more read these threads and hear the name of Bentley Berkeley. Its never been about me, its about him.


 

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I suppose I'll have to jump in here. Don't worry, I'll try to keep it brief.



It is true that not everyone is a skilled writer. But I greatly appreciate anyone who makes any attempt at a backstory. This tells me that they see their character as something more than just a collection of numbers and statistics.

Choosing to complain about whether they borrow elements of canon or have less than refined writing skills or have an idea that takes up more than the relatively small space provided, is somewhat petty.

This is a game. People are here (I hope) to have fun. If part of their fun involves a complicated and convoluted backstory incorporating canon elements, then so be it. Bravo, show me more.

I invite anyone who wishes to tell their character's full story to do so. Feel free to start a thread in the roleplaying section and let fly. I try to read all of the ones I can find on the forums and, very often, I find ones that may not be literature, but they are worth the read.


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My bios range from the lengthy to the short.

For example my Goo character (Gelatinous Ruse) has this as it's bio.
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It comes from outer space!

...It seeks only to Devour!

...It could be anyone, your brother, your sister, even YOU!

Beware the coming of the GELATINOUS RUSE!

That tells you very little about the character but I think it works.

Others, like my namesake, have a lot more backstory detail.

Does that make me weird?
Yes. Get out, you freak.

And what I mean by that is, of course, "One of us! One of us!"

At this point I'm just showing off and over-sharing, but here are my non-story characters. The one for Space-Monkey is a theme song that (in my head) sounds similar to the theme of Teen Titans.

























I do not have a problem. Shut up.


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That must be in your head, because i'm sure as heck not crying about it.

It must be because I come from Union, where anything like that is frowned upon, then laughed at, in that order.

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not helping unions rep saying they dont have any quality standard for RP. You do know anyone who actually is worth RPing with goes to virtue, those who go to lesser servers and thier minor RP populations are there to be ignored by thier server community, unlike virtue which is ruled by its RP community. And Lore in every form be it minor or major is far more important then so called freedom. In my experiance those who ignore lore are the worst of god moders.
You're not helping Virtue's rep any by looking down your nose at anyone elses RP community, either. We're already looked upon as the "sex-crazed catgirl server", the "loony RPer's only server", and the "OMG Virtue RP LOLZ server." We don't need to add "rude, hateful, lore-based RP snob server" to the mix.

I'm genuinely glad you have found a community that engages in your style RP. Some of the RP encounters you've described sound quite interesting, and it's clear from the way you write how much you enjoy spontaneous RP with new, like-minded people.

It would be a good thing to allow others the basic courtesy of enjoying their own communities without insult.


 

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As a big highlander fan I was initially curious to chat with fellow fans and discuss how they had adapted it to the coxverse, since obviously even in our game world having 10s of thousands of immortals running around head hunting would be abit nuts. Each of them more or less had gone with the I am the one and only immortal left attitude, effectly a connor at the end of 1 type view of thier power and ability. In other words a total god mode character concept. Only one was even 50 at the time. all had very ineffective and sloppy builds. One was a BS/Regen, i run a very well made one of those and even offered advice on how to make thier build both more effective and more in line with the ideas portrayed in the film since that seemed thier main focus. However it was clear in my dealings with each they where the kind who made an immortal to pretend to be the ONLY IMMORTAL.
You've actually hit on something I can agree with. It is, in my eyes, some bad RP to lift a character from another setting and expect it to work seamlessly into the CoH world, usually with the contrivance of being from another dimension. I've seen it done as well with characters that people created in other MMOs and wish to carry over. They're free to do it though, but I don't particularly like it.


 

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Backtracking to the OP, since I don't think I've ever actually commented on it since the thread went sour.

Honestly? The opinion of how to write a good character description is simply an opinion, and an extremely subjective one at that. I try to read character bios whenever I can: sometimes I find really good ones that are worthy of a "nice concept" tell from me, and others that just don't work with my thought processes.

There's a phrase that comes to mind when looking back at this topic: if you don't have anything nice to say, then it might be better to not say anything at all. I could complain and call out the people who have those "badly-written descriptions", but I have the decency and common sense to hold my tongue and keep my opinions to myself, especially on a forum where it has the chance to be shot down by people who will defend themselves.

Part of the reason why there's been so much negativity in this one topic probably stems from the fact that the OP felt the necessity to include examples that he felt were "bad". It's something that I, as a poster with my own subjective opinions on the subject, would have left out. Dragging conflict from another (DV's) thread into this one was the back-breaking straw, here.


I want to repeat the call that CoH is a game, and a massively multiplayer one at that. There's too many minds to call for a strict standard of "how" something should be done, and it's a generally futile effort to try to singlehandedly shape a community (especially with this being the internet, of all places) into a mould.


 

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I had to read "Yukon Grey" out loud several times before it finally clicked. Well played, sir. *adjusts monocle* Well played.


 

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I see that I am late to the party, but just to offer my response to the OP:

How a player chooses to write a character's bio is his/her decision.

If you're RPing regularly, then I can understand why you might want to read a short blurb: you will probably find out everything else about the character via your interaction with them. But for the rest of the player base, writing a detailed description may be as "in-character" as they get. Then it is there for anyone who enjoys reading that sort of thing, and out of the way for those that do not. In the end, everyone's happy.


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I wasn't going to post in this now epic thread but I must just pop in to applaud Ironik for a much needed laugh today. Those bios are brilliant, well done sir!

(Not that there haven't been other things in this thread that have made me laugh out loud of course. )


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Yes. Get out, you freak.

And what I mean by that is, of course, "One of us! One of us!"

At this point I'm just showing off and over-sharing, but here are my non-story characters. The one for Space-Monkey is a theme song that (in my head) sounds similar to the theme of Teen Titans.

























I do not have a problem. Shut up.
impressive sure


"I believe there's a hero in all of us, that keeps us honest, gives us strength, makes us noble, and finally allows us to die with pride, even though sometimes we have to be steady, and give up the thing we want the most. Even our dreams." Aunt May SM2

i dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone...good bye Paragon

 

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I still love this one. Great costume


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Even trying to give an explanation to the how or why is God Mode. Claiming the mantle of Valmaz I can admit was not without a level of arrogence, viewing him as having interest in Numina to annoy infernal might seem abit much, but trying to tell others how or why of the universe or even that you where there without a lore based character to at least sync up. That is a major example of god mode in my book. Might as well say you are the guy who created this specific timeline and imprisoned the rularuu while your at it, wouldnt be any more extreme.
Why?

It's as much god-moding to tell people what they can and can't do when you're not, in fact, the DM.

I think that's my main point in a nutshell, really. And I find that's what the majority of this thread (apart from the cool posted bios) is. "You can't do that!" and "You're doing it wrong!" when it all amounts to "My writing is bettah than y00s!".

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It is true that not everyone is a skilled writer. But I greatly appreciate anyone who makes any attempt at a backstory. This tells me that they see their character as something more than just a collection of numbers and statistics.

Choosing to complain about whether they borrow elements of canon or have less than refined writing skills or have an idea that takes up more than the relatively small space provided, is somewhat petty.

This is a game. People are here (I hope) to have fun. If part of their fun involves a complicated and convoluted backstory incorporating canon elements, then so be it. Bravo, show me more.

I invite anyone who wishes to tell their character's full story to do so. Feel free to start a thread in the roleplaying section and let fly. I try to read all of the ones I can find on the forums and, very often, I find ones that may not be literature, but they are worth the read.
Word.

And I'd probably also add to it, those players that don't have a deep rich backstory for their characters but work with mainly a personality and mentality, bring your characters out! It's lovely when I can banter on random missions with with PuGs, not particularly about lore, but about the mission. About current actions and why you're doing what you're doing.

And if you meet up with these same people, fight more crime or commit more evil, you basically become a part of their backstory.

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You've actually hit on something I can agree with. It is, in my eyes, some bad RP to lift a character from another setting and expect it to work seamlessly into the CoH world, usually with the contrivance of being from another dimension. I've seen it done as well with characters that people created in other MMOs and wish to carry over. They're free to do it though, but I don't particularly like it.
But that's exactly what my character ('my character' being 'me' who's actually typing this) is. How else have I played other games and experienced other worlds if not visiting other dimensions? It's not seamless, no, but that's basically a story in and of itself unrelated to the game being played or experienced.

But one stipulation is, to fully play 'myself', it has to be with a pole-arm weapon, most likely a spear or staff. So this will be fun for sure


 

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Well, I'm gonna have to do this too, when I get home. Prepare to get a bunch of posts about my characters on Virtue.

Now I can't wait to get back home, lol.


 

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Why?

It's as much god-moding to tell people what they can and can't do when you're not, in fact, the DM.

I think that's my main point in a nutshell, really. And I find that's what the majority of this thread (apart from the cool posted bios) is. "You can't do that!" and "You're doing it wrong!" when it all amounts to "My writing is bettah than y00s!".
This has nothing to do with 'my/our writing is better' and EVERYTHING to do with 'You do NOT play as a named NPC Canon character.'

It doesn't matter whether that character is small-powered NPC who appears in two missions in one arc or The Prince of All Demons or Statesman himself. Those are NPCs - Non Player Characters. That's the entire point. They are the Game Characters in the Game story, which is run by the Devs.

You wouldn't steal another players character, so why is it somehow ok to steal a Dev made character? It's exactly the same thing.


Edit: If we're throwing up biogs, well, Here's my Handbook list


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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I don't necessarily write much in my bios, I mean my oldest and original toon (Katana/Regen) still has, after 7 years the bio of 'Where *does* that Katana come from?' as a one man, completely unnoticed protest at the lack of a saya costume piece...

However, on a side note, I have a terrible habit, I read other people's bios and if I see a spelling mistake (and I will see it if there's one there, sadly I can spot one at 40 yards) in a bio that otherwise uses the english language and not gibberish, I'll send them a tell about it. Just gently pointing it out along the lines of 'There may be a typo in your bio, the <word with typo> in <general location in bio> should probably be spelled <corrected spelling>'

Am I alone in this minor pedantry?

I don't think I've had an annoyed or angry response yet to that sort of thing, I think most people are mildly pleased that someone's paid enough attention to the bio to spot a potential error.

Anyway, we now return you to your regularly scheduled argument.

And on a side note, related to the current disagreement, my opinion is that in this game, regardless of whether you're teamed or not, the world you see is the world as defined by your character. So we've got thousands of coexisting, parallel world histories running at once. Who *CARES* if one of your teammates has a bio that says they're the son of the big bang, come to save the world using only their left eyebrow? All that matters to me is the path through the game that my character takes, and how they interact with all the weird and wonderful creations that other people come up with. All other players are are bit parts in my characters story. All I am to other characters is a bit part. That's how I rationalise it to myself, anyway.


Warning:

The above post may contain Cynicism, sarcasm and/or pessimism. If you object to the quantities contained, then tough.