How to Write a Character Story on this Game


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I'm afraid you've failed on a number of levels.

One, actually the TOS merely allow PS to use my characters without express permission, even if my characters are used in other copyrighted works.

Two, of COURSE this is all my own opinion, based on upwards of twenty-five years of roleplaying. That, by the way, is called "experience". I've seen pretty much every kind of RP there is to see, and you know what? Playing someone else's creations bore the majority of roleplayers. Anecdotal, sure. But no more than you claiming that almost everyone you've roleplayed with is fine with you dictating their characters to them.

Absolutely NOBODY here is saying anything about you adapting lore "first". The problem people have is you claiming that your version of the lore is canon.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Originally Posted by TheShattered View Post
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So .. basically, if your character isn't Statesman or some other NPC character, they're "meaningless"?

Wow .. just .. wow ..
to random players most definatly. Do you really give two shiites about anyone else you randomly meet in an MMO? I sure as hell dont, it takes weeks of regular interaction with me in game before I see you as something different then another NPC sprite. Your character and all thier personal made up drama only ever matters to you until you earn another players interest.

simple fact I put anyone in D on ignore who uses local chat to talk about personal drama only important to them. I dont need to hear about who is dating who, or who just got married. I want to hear folks talking about topics I might feel the urge to join in to, and ideally topics that actually have meaning to the game world like current events or an investigation into some factions activities that weaves lore skillfully into a story worth hearing.

In other words if it only matters to you, good for you, if you make yourself a part of the world, then you do matter to those in the world.

True story. Last night Ol **** was sitting in the D when a young lad in a red cap came up to me and introduced himself as a new midnighter archivist. He used lore to connect his character to the old midnighters and instantly became recognized by berkeley as a child he had seen grow up and offered condolences for the passing of his family, for the boy was an orphan with his parents and grandfather passed.

We chatted for abit, I even invited him into my casual lore based SG the Midnighter's Club which he was happy about. Soon a friend of mine who RPs a proper demoness came by and we all where talking about the various kinds and concepts of magic IC, it was a fun chat and several other magic types joined the discussion clearly enjoying it. Only problem was this god moding tech based character who didnt like being called toaster or told she couldnt control all machines, dominate citadel, nor use PPD as personal hitmen by sending them false warrents for those she disliked.


 

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Originally Posted by Shadowe View Post
Absolutely NOBODY here is saying anything about you adapting lore "first". The problem people have is you claiming that your version of the lore is canon.
And where exactly did I say what I write is canon? plese do show me the quote that says what I write is what actually happened? I clearly from the beginning described it as just another possible option within the current events rocking our game world. Because I am always very careful and very clear about being just another player who simply chooses to embrace the game world rather then ignore it as most do when writing thier character bio or even during the imagining what kind of character you want to be phase.


 

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Wow. I take it all back.

There is now a level -1. Well done.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by TheShattered View Post
That must be in your head, because i'm sure as heck not crying about it.

It must be because I come from Union, where anything like that is frowned upon, then laughed at, in that order.
not helping unions rep saying they dont have any quality standard for RP. You do know anyone who actually is worth RPing with goes to virtue, those who go to lesser servers and thier minor RP populations are there to be ignored by thier server community, unlike virtue which is ruled by its RP community. And Lore in every form be it minor or major is far more important then so called freedom. In my experiance those who ignore lore are the worst of god moders.


 

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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
Really hate to tell you this but RP is about playing a role, and has little to nothing to do with if you helped to create the character in the first place. I mean does christian bale have to go write batman comics to be able to play batman in the films? Names are first come first serve, if you felt you could of done better as Bentley Berkeley for example, maybe you should of made him first? Or at least taken the name and kept it on a holder to deny others if it pisses you of so badly.
Please. Please, tell me this is some sort of twisted thought experiment, or a trollish joke.

Please tell me you are not as totally and wilfully dense as you are making yourself out to be...
Does the term 'Original Character' mean anything to you?


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
Please. Please, tell me this is some sort of twisted thought experiment, or a trollish joke.

Please tell me you are not as totally and wilfully dense as you are making yourself out to be...
Does the term 'Original Character' mean anything to you?
Not to him it doesn't.


 

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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
not helping unions rep saying they dont have any quality standard for RP. You do know anyone who actually is worth RPing with goes to virtue, those who go to lesser servers and thier minor RP populations are there to be ignored by thier server community, unlike virtue which is ruled by its RP community. And Lore in every form be it minor or major is far more important then so called freedom. In my experiance those who ignore lore are the worst of god moders.
You can go to hell right now. In fact, no, you can stay on Virtue and stay the hell away from Union. I pity the poor sods who have to put up with you and your utter insanity. But I can guarantee you are not welcome on Union.

You, simply put, do not understand RP, the concept of what is canon and what is player created and what 'god modding' really means.


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
Allow me? WHo the **** am I asking for allowances from to play the character I want to play exactly? I dont need to be in a group of RPers to RP my character I am always partially IC even in pugs. No one ever has to be allowed by another player to do anything.

All I keep hearing is oh no you thought of using that bit of lore first and now I am sad I cant from every one who argues with me. When someone can point out how it is actually WRONG which it isnt since I long ago made sure each name I used was ok by reporting it myself and waiting a few days while I exchanged email with admin to make sure a given name was not potentially at risk of being genericed.

Each time I not only was given an ok, but actually personal compliments by the admin for making such good use of the game lore. I never came to the forums looking for any OK from my fellow players, I came here to try and share a fun way to interact with the game world. If it doesnt appeal to you great, but making these endless attacks on a fellow player for just stating how they prefer to RP. its just disgusting.

I also already said i know I am not the only Bentley Berkeley out there, I am the one on virtue, and it is one of my accounts global's. I also know there is another demtrios vasilikos on virtue using the upper case i trick for the L in the last name. Never met the guy but I put him on my friends list in case I do ever see him on. I once did that with Dauntless until I met the real Dauntless and couldnt stomach that trick anymore. See I do recognize first come first serve. Id made the mistake of assuming dauntless was blocked out and the upper case i was the only option. But nope there is a real Dauntless on virtue, claims to predate the history badge and lore to. Maybe he does.
Proof please that you got permission and praise.

Otherwise, you just typed a load of crocodile ****.


 

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
You can go to hell right now. In fact, no, you can stay on Virtue and stay the hell away from Union. I pity the poor sods who have to put up with you and your utter insanity. But I can guarantee you are not welcome on Union.

You, simply put, do not understand RP, the concept of what is canon and what is player created and what 'god modding' really means.
^this.

To be so arrogant as to assume that all others who do not agree with you are somehow "inferior" tells me that I have zero interest in EVER interacting with that person on a roleplaying level.

Please, stay away from Union, where we like to see people play original characters. We don't care how memorable they are, because we're not in some sort of competition to be "better".


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
Do you really give two shiites about anyone else you randomly meet in an MMO? .
Yes. It's called common decency.


I was doing some playthroughs of City of Heroes. Now they will serve as memories of a better time ...

 

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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
not helping unions rep saying they dont have any quality standard for RP. You do know anyone who actually is worth RPing with goes to virtue, those who go to lesser servers and thier minor RP populations are there to be ignored by thier server community, unlike virtue which is ruled by its RP community. And Lore in every form be it minor or major is far more important then so called freedom. In my experiance those who ignore lore are the worst of god moders.
You do know that, before the Server Merges, Union was the RP server for Europe?


I was doing some playthroughs of City of Heroes. Now they will serve as memories of a better time ...

 

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Originally Posted by TheShattered View Post
You do know that, before the Server Merges, Union was the RP server for Europe?
Of course he does. But it's not Virtue, so it's inherently inferior (attack against every person who roleplays on any server that's not Virtue, making demeaning comments to everyone that roleplays on any server that's not Virtue), and anyone who roleplays there is there for the sole purpose of being ignored by everyone else on the server (promoting hatred and making demeaning comments).

Oh, and then there's the comment that people who ignore lore are the worst of the godmodders, completely missing the point that nobody here has said that they ignore canon lore - he's making unsubstantiated assumptions on the basis of no evidence. Which is kinda rude.


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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I'm a roleplayer on Virtue, and I feel the need to stress that DV does NOT speak for me, or for ANY of the people I RP with. If he spoke for the Virtue community at large, I'd be ashamed to call it my home server. I'm absolutely horrified and disgusted by the attitude he's displayed and the disdain he's shown for pretty much everyone who doesn't share his extremely narrow-minded and unimaginative view on roleplay. Techbot Alpha, please don't let this discourage you from playing on Virtue-I'd love to RP with you there, and so would a quite a few of my friends. It should almost go without saying that DV does not represent our server in any way, shape or form. Furthermore, if I came across someone with his attitude in game, I'd one-star them before putting them on ignore.


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Originally Posted by Demetrios Vasilikos View Post
not helping unions rep saying they dont have any quality standard for RP. You do know anyone who actually is worth RPing with goes to virtue, those who go to lesser servers and thier minor RP populations are there to be ignored by thier server community, unlike virtue which is ruled by its RP community. And Lore in every form be it minor or major is far more important then so called freedom. In my experiance those who ignore lore are the worst of god moders.
So you weren't content with your own thread on 'how to RP' and had to come in and defecate all over this one?

Union is the EU RP server. Always has been. I've gone there a few times. Great place. Before you open your mouth, you really ought to KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

It really disgusts me that you and I play on the same server. I think I may need to shower.

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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
You can go to hell right now. In fact, no, you can stay on Virtue and stay the hell away from Union. I pity the poor sods who have to put up with you and your utter insanity. But I can guarantee you are not welcome on Union.

You, simply put, do not understand RP, the concept of what is canon and what is player created and what 'god modding' really means.
Tech, please understand that most of u— no, NONE of us are like DV on Virtue. Not even we want him.

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Originally Posted by Valerika View Post
I'm a roleplayer on Virtue, and I feel the need to stress that DV does NOT speak for me, or for ANY of the people I RP with. If he spoke for the Virtue community at large, I'd be ashamed to call it my home server. I'm absolutely horrified and disgusted by the attitude he's displayed and the disdain he's shown for pretty much everyone who doesn't share his extremely narrow-minded and unimaginative view on roleplay. Techbot Alpha, please don't let this discourage you from playing on Virtue-I'd love to RP with you there, and so would a quite a few of my friends. It should almost go without saying that DV does not represent our server in any way, shape or form. Furthermore, if I came across someone with his attitude in game, I'd one-star them before putting them on ignore.
The above quote is 100% true and reflects my thoughts with pinpoint accuracy.


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Tech, please understand that most of u— no, NONE of us are like DV on Virtue. Not even we want him.

Tough we don't want him.

Don't even think of deporting him to us.


Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.

 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.
You, sir, are a lady and a gentleman.

/me salute


The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise. ; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*

 

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Originally Posted by Shadowe View Post
You, sir, are a lady and a gentleman.

/me salute
Cross out that which does not apply, but agreed.

Apologies to all those on Virtue for that previous comment (You'll still never get me off Union though ) and my sincerest condolences for having to put up with this sort of thing on your server.


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Oh darn, I should have read this thread before replying to the other one, shoot now I know he's just going to dismiss my post out of hand, darn it.


 

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Hes in Pocket D right now.

...and has reported me for harrassment because I linked the other thread.

Hahahah .


 

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Originally Posted by Omega_Chief View Post
Oh darn, I should have read this thread before replying to the other one, shoot now I know he's just going to dismiss my post out of hand, darn it.
Well, it's good to know you still exist?


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by ShadowWings View Post
Hes in Pocket D right now.

...and has reported me for harrassment because I linked the other thread.

Hahahah .
You should report him for having a copyrighted name.

T'keron Valmaz is taken straight from in-game lore and is generic bait.

EDIT: So is Bentley Berkeley


My guides:Dark Melee/Dark Armor/Soul Mastery, Illusion Control/Kinetics/Primal Forces Mastery, Electric Armor
"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."

 

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Originally Posted by ShadowWings View Post
Hes in Pocket D right now.

...and has reported me for harrassment because I linked the other thread.

Hahahah .
I should report him for harassing the brain cells of everyone who's read the thread.

(General response on the URP channel has been a unanimous "What the deuce?", by the way)


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
You should report him for having a copyrighted name.

T'keron Valmaz is taken straight from in-game lore and is generic bait.
Yup. Do it. We are supposed to do that, after all.


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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.