How to Write a Character Story on this Game


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Originally Posted by Dark_Respite View Post
I actually enjoy the challenge of creating a good bio in 1023 characters. It forces me to think and re-think my selection of words and the relevant information about the character that I'm trying to convey. Kind of like doing a drabble (100-word story) challenge.

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Took the words right out of my fingers....
I recently wrote a bio 4 times over, in different styles, until I felt it conveyed the character emotionally as well as informatively. I ended up using every bit of space that stupid box would let me (but not as a wall o' text)... re-wording and strategizing spaces/returns. I also ended up winning a bio contest for it.

Also, I will join those calling for the text box to be fixed.
Please.

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Originally Posted by New_Dark_Age View Post
Just being honest here but was playing on Virtue lately and realize that no one knows how to write a character story. Motivation for this thread was made when debating someone who wanted there to be more room for their character stories. While I guess I am fine with that.. seriously I dont see the problem in explaining a character with the space given. Its irrelevant anyway since no ones going to read your character story if its a long novel.


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GOOD CHARACTER STORY

1:Genectically engineered to be the ultimate destroyer, Coldar is a powerful villain who wields the cold of space..............

2: The Impervious Hard Man is a destructive villain that is completely invulnerable to physical damage and possesses immense strength and endurance. No known substance on Earth can penetrate his skin...................................

3: 8-Ball is evil cause he makes money selling crack to children.......................................... ............ (Actual bio of a former player on Champion)

BAD CHARACTER STORY

1: When he was 7 Henry enjoyed watching cartoons at his moms house............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................his parents were killed............................................ .................................................. ...............................he made a costume .................................................. ............................................he became a hero called General Justice........................................... ........................ now he protects the city.

2: I was sick of all the widespread crime in my neighborbood. When I was younger the gangs would harass me and my friends .................................................. ................................................. ...... the toxic waste gave me power .............. ........ .......... I no longer recognized myself in the mirror.......... I killed a gang member not knowning my own strength. ......... I ...blah blah blah. .................YAWN



People dont understand, especially on Virtue, that no one wants to read a novel so if your character isnt summarized quickly in your bio like an Encyclopedia article...its worthless cause no ones going to read pass the first 3 sentences unless it grabs their attention. Sorry Virtue ...

EDIT: Also put spaces in your story for each paragraph. No one wants to read a big block of text.
Here's a short story for you: YOUR OPINION IS NOT FACT.

Also, those examples you gave as "good" are genuine crap. If I saw those in the game, I'd roll my eyes and think, "Amateur."

Why don't you show us screenshots of your character bios and we'll tell you all the ways they are fundamentally broken. Trust me, if the examples you've given there as "Good" are really what you consider to be exemplary storytelling, all of your bios are junk.


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Originally Posted by Ironik View Post
Here's a short story for you: YOUR OPINION IS NOT FACT.

Also, those examples you gave as "good" are genuine crap. If I saw those in the game, I'd roll my eyes and think, "Amateur."

Why don't you show us screenshots of your character bios and we'll tell you all the ways they are fundamentally broken. Trust me, if the examples you've given there as "Good" are really what you consider to be exemplary storytelling, all of your bios are junk.
lol dont be mad cause you do not know how to start a character summary.

My examples were the mere first sentence or two of the bio. The dots (......) represent that more content will come after.


No one reads your bios Mr. professional. No one cares about your creative writing abilities. They may care about what superhero you made though..pity they will never know cause they fell asleep after the first line.


 

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Your first lines are good examples of things which will make me roll my eyes, close the window, and not want to read about the rest of the character. And forget about them ten seconds later.


 

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Originally Posted by BrandX View Post
Actually, that story isn't bad (or at least the idea of it).

It's problem is that it seems to expect everyone to follow it.

What's even more funny about this, is people like other stories that mess with canon and tend to be known amongst the forum goers, and does exactly what that poster did, but they're accepting it, and seem to often call for it to be made canon.
Examples? Most examples of actually god-moding canon tend to rightly get shouted down as the tripe they are...


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Oh a personal jab at yours truly? How good of you to show an example of your own shining character traits that far exceed my own RP characters controversial natures.

Which are actually reguarly complimented upon by random folk who actually appreciate the use of game lore.

On topic I am with Sam on this one. OP seems to think over simplified earns instant kudos. I myself really only give props to bios that make heavy use of game lore. veer even a little ofcourse ill send a tell explaining how wrong you are and how you can improve it to fit within the game world. Anyone who pulls the Tidus "Its my story and it will go the way I want it to or Ill end it right now" BS can go play water soccer.
Aha! AHAH! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-hhoooAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Yes. Yes I just sat and typed out mad laughter. Because that hypocritical statement is deserving of nothing less. Hoo boy...


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Here's a resent one of mine.


Carter Wells was an ecologist and advocate for the preservation of the world’s endangered habitats. Many believe Wells was an associate of the scientist Hamidon Pasilima, the monster who spawned the Devouring Earth. Wells believed he had discovered a way to sever Hamidons control of the Devoured beasts, causing them to revert to fertile plant and mineral mass. This drew the ire of the Hamidon, who confronted Wells in the form of a bio-plasmid simulacrum. Using this form, Hamidon attempted to personally devour Wells. As the process began to break down Wells cell structure, something went wrong. The Hamidon form made a horrific wail and melted back into the earth. The attack triggered the mutant gene in Wells body, transforming Wells into a living ecosystem. Wells body has even begun to support a form microscopic life that has evolved on his person, constantly swirling through his lower atmosphere as bioluminescence. As Terra-Form, Wells has vowed to defend the Earth!

984 characters all in all. I do find that I am forced to abruptly cut the endings short.


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Not bad. What's a 'lower atmosphere' of the body when it's at home, though?


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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Not bad. What's a 'lower atmosphere' of the body when it's at home, though?
Methinks he means "abdomen"... Which is 3 letters shorter, too.


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3: 8-Ball is evil cause he makes money selling crack to children.......................................... ............ (Actual bio of a former player on Champion)
Villain or not, shouldn't 8-Ball sell cocaine to children instead of crack?


 

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This probably should have been put in the Roleplaying board, but, oh well.

Yeah, you can't dictate how to write a bio to someone. A good bio can be two sentences long. A good bio can be all 1024 characters long.

In the end, everything is subjective and it's not worth worrying about.

As long as a bio tells me their name so I can remember it when I inevitably forget, all is good with the world


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Examples? Most examples of actually god-moding canon tend to rightly get shouted down as the tripe they are...
Possibly may be talking about Samuraiko's The Course of Superhero Romance, which is non-canon but highly regarded among forumgoers?




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Possibly may be talking about Samuraiko's The Course of Superhero Romance, which is non-canon but highly regarded among forumgoers?
Fair enough. However, there is a major, major difference between creating your own distinct character and a 'what if' interaction with a canon NPC while trying to keep as close to that NPCs personality as possible going off official writing ('Riko herself said she'd be making sure that it worked out with the now canon relationship between Posi and Numina) and what was mentioned, namely commandeering an actual canon NPC name and acting how that player thinks that NPC should be, rather than what the Devs write for it.


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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So, New_Dark_Age -- Just being honest here but you're full of carp. Your personal opinions are just that: your opinions, not some inarguable rules of life that every right-thinking person agrees with.

I hate to break it to you but most of us write bios for our own amusement and figure that if someone else is amused also then that's gravy.

Unless you have some evidence that the rest of the game community actually believes in your personal opinion and selected you to educate the world on what they will and will not read, I recommend that you stick to expressing just your opinion on what you will not read.

Just being honest.


 

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complaining that someone used the character limit on their character bio is as useless as complaining that someone used all the slots on their costume


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Maybe I'm just weird or something, but I actually enjoy reading other people's bio's. Doesn't matter how long or how short they are either.

*shrugs*



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Fair enough. However, there is a major, major difference between creating your own distinct character and a 'what if' interaction with a canon NPC while trying to keep as close to that NPCs personality as possible going off official writing ('Riko herself said she'd be making sure that it worked out with the now canon relationship between Posi and Numina) and what was mentioned, namely commandeering an actual canon NPC name and acting how that player thinks that NPC should be, rather than what the Devs write for it.
Commandeering a name? Odd way of putting it to say the least. Especially since I have actually been complimented in game by a dev for one of my lore based characters. Is what name I choose or how I take pride in it any different then those who high and might it for having grabbed various popular names in that first year?

I can easily admit that one of the first things that made me look to lore was finding most typical names long since taken. Hell BETA players got most of the good general ones.

Had a friend who never gave COX a chance for example because he couldnt be named Greed. Not a big deal really but it was for him because it had been his game handle on muds for years. He infact plays CO now days just because of thier name freedom.

For me it was Dusk of Virtue who gave me the itch. The first time I saw him around month 3 in year one I was like "Damn that was a good ******* name!" I started to think how silly all my current D&D based concepts where and how I wanted to be more a part of the world we played in rather then my old table top universe that had nothing to do with the game beyond some abstracts I can see here and there due to Jacks own years of tossing dice for D&D.

My first lore based character was T'Keron Valmaz. made to both mock and set an example to all the wannabe demons out there who had 0 grasp on what a demon was in coxverse. Since then he has helped many new players better understand that demons are not just some mindless force of chaos and evil, but in fact thoughtful and patient beings who uphold fairness when dealing with mortals, who sadly only have flesh,blood,soul, and life in terms of worthy trade goods. He also was exactly the kind of character who was in need of the alignment system as he was even in lore pretty much written to be one who was torn by two sides.

I think the problem is you cant seem to accept its not about me or my ego, its about the desire to play a role. You know roleplay? It actually has nothing at all to do with creating your own character. Fact is when I run sessions of d20 or hackmaster these days I always pre make the characters for the group. When those characters die during the adventure then I let them use current locals and even NPC allies as sources for new characters so they make sense in the scope of the story we are creating together.

here is an exmple of a so called original player concept I encountered in the D last night that I view as the epitome of god mode.

A lvl 50+1 tech based electric wielding stalker. well IOd and old enough I would certainly tolerate a high lvl of ability being RPed from.

Thier bio though well written and even interesting however is where it all falls down. They specifically mention they can feed on the power of and control any source of tech, this implies and when asked even in thier view includes beings like Citty and Lumi our well loved talos talking toasters. As well as even the arms of Recluse himself...That btw to me is what god moding entails. implying you have control over other characters or even ICON class NPCs just because.

Now you may then say well isnt T'Keron Valmaz the exact same implying lordship of all demons? Not at all, because I am again using Lore. Valmaz was torn from his plane by a binding never meant to be cast, and then througha cosmic accident sent from that variant of earth to primal earth and fused to that very upstart mortal mage in the process.

I rp him as just that now possibly mortal, which is why he is SR, he avoids on being touched rather then trusting in and risking his now compromised demonic nature. I always treat him more as the king in exile now dealing with many would be rivals who seek to lay him low during this window of vulnerability. I also treat him as an ally to those factions of the COT who still keep to the old ways rather then those who have given into body theft and taking up the unethical practice of demon binding.

Really hate to tell you this but RP is about playing a role, and has little to nothing to do with if you helped to create the character in the first place. I mean does christian bale have to go write batman comics to be able to play batman in the films? Names are first come first serve, if you felt you could of done better as Bentley Berkeley for example, maybe you should of made him first? Or at least taken the name and kept it on a holder to deny others if it pisses you of so badly.


 

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And thus we differ. I have no interest in roleplaying as Positron, or Statesman, or Bentley Berkeley, or Crimson, or General Aarons. Why would I, since they're not my characters to take in whatever direction I wish?

You have utterly missed one of the fundamental aspects that most roleplayers enjoy: the ability to create a character and play that role. Most roleplayers have no interest in playing someone else's character. It actually cheapens the experience. Because they do not have creative control when someone else can say "that's not how the character would behave".

You want to play in your group that allow you to take control of dev created characters, and that's fine by me. I have ZERO problem with that. I have a problem when you expect the entire rest of the roleplaying community to agree that you and you alone have final canonical say in that character's thoughts and actions for everyone else on the server.

Because you don't. Sorry.


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You know, with as much time as it takes for iTrials to form, I find I have a good period of just simply standing around that I can read people's bios. The only bio that I've ever received compliments on also happens to be my longest one.


 

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And thus we differ. I have no interest in roleplaying as Positron, or Statesman, or Bentley Berkeley, or Crimson, or General Aarons. Why would I, since they're not my characters to take in whatever direction I wish?

You have utterly missed one of the fundamental aspects that most roleplayers enjoy: the ability to create a character and play that role. Most roleplayers have no interest in playing someone else's character. It actually cheapens the experience. Because they do not have creative control when someone else can say "that's not how the character would behave".

You want to play in your group that allow you to take control of dev created characters, and that's fine by me. I have ZERO problem with that. I have a problem when you expect the entire rest of the roleplaying community to agree that you and you alone have final canonical say in that character's thoughts and actions for everyone else on the server.

Because you don't. Sorry.
Since I never said I do you literally made a post with no point. But to answer you, good for you that you are happy making meaningless characters that strangers wont ever look at and say hm that looks familiar, have your bio read, then recieve a tell saying " damn man that is like a perfect bio, you got it all, didnt miss a thing, and your build, the way you dress, the way you sit there at the bar telling stories of the old days, its just so right on man thanks for making my day"

You see I get tells like that often, my friends lists on my characters are all long full of fellow players who enjoy such a style. I still fondly recall meeting Hero One at the D once. we had a nice long chat about the good old days( keep in mind we where total strangers in truth) but thanks to our love of lore we could easily interact, and soon others came up to join in the lively discussion.

Something alot seem to forget is pocket D is not on primal earth, that is the reason there is a still flesh bearing witch lady standing around having a drink. I could for example if I so choose be a variant berkeley, or one from earlier or later in time. I love playing him largely like doctor who as its great fun and fits BB very well.

however to be on topic, I myself rarely compliment bios that are very short, or are just a sum up of obvious physical traits. or a list of fictional RP powers like lust auras and the like

Id rather read a decent little story bite, be it a recent news report, a file from one of the many factions, a interview with the character, etc.. then a quick sum up of powers I can as easily get looking up the powers tab instead.


 

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Since I never said I do you literally made a post with no point. But to answer you, good for you that you are happy making meaningless characters that strangers wont ever look at and say hm that looks familiar, have your bio read, then recieve a tell saying " damn man that is like a perfect bio, you got it all, didnt miss a thing, and your build, the way you dress, the way you sit there at the bar telling stories of the old days, its just so right on man thanks for making my day"
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So .. basically, if your character isn't Statesman or some other NPC character, they're "meaningless"?

Wow .. just .. wow ..


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Why would I, since they're not my characters to take in whatever direction I wish? Actually due to the ToS none of your characters are yours after you make them they instantly are not part of and property of the games company.

You have utterly missed one of the fundamental aspects that most roleplayers enjoy: the ability to create a character and play that role. Most roleplayers have no interest in playing someone else's character. It actually cheapens the experience. Because they do not have creative control when someone else can say "that's not how the character would behave". Totally your opinion. I have run table top RPGs for years and have with only rare exceptions always used pre made characters of my own making to hand out to the players to avoid having to worry about them trying to make game breakers. Its something I learned as a young DM from other older veteran RPG players and am thankful eternally for the wisdom they passed on to me.



You want to play in your group that allow you to take control of dev created characters, and that's fine by me. I have ZERO problem with that. I have a problem when you expect the entire rest of the roleplaying community to agree that you and you alone have final canonical say in that character's thoughts and actions for everyone else on the server.

Allow me? WHo the **** am I asking for allowances from to play the character I want to play exactly? I dont need to be in a group of RPers to RP my character I am always partially IC even in pugs. No one ever has to be allowed by another player to do anything.

All I keep hearing is oh no you thought of using that bit of lore first and now I am sad I cant from every one who argues with me. When someone can point out how it is actually WRONG which it isnt since I long ago made sure each name I used was ok by reporting it myself and waiting a few days while I exchanged email with admin to make sure a given name was not potentially at risk of being genericed.

Each time I not only was given an ok, but actually personal compliments by the admin for making such good use of the game lore. I never came to the forums looking for any OK from my fellow players, I came here to try and share a fun way to interact with the game world. If it doesnt appeal to you great, but making these endless attacks on a fellow player for just stating how they prefer to RP. its just disgusting.

I also already said i know I am not the only Bentley Berkeley out there, I am the one on virtue, and it is one of my accounts global's. I also know there is another demtrios vasilikos on virtue using the upper case i trick for the L in the last name. Never met the guy but I put him on my friends list in case I do ever see him on. I once did that with Dauntless until I met the real Dauntless and couldnt stomach that trick anymore. See I do recognize first come first serve. Id made the mistake of assuming dauntless was blocked out and the upper case i was the only option. But nope there is a real Dauntless on virtue, claims to predate the history badge and lore to. Maybe he does.


 

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Player-created original characters that people actually spend time building from scratch have less meaning and are less likely to be commented on than a player-piloted NPC mockup?

I really don't agree with this.


 

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All I keep hearing is oh no you thought of using that bit of lore first and now I am sad I cant from every one who argues with me.
That must be in your head, because i'm sure as heck not crying about it.

It must be because I come from Union, where anything like that is frowned upon, then laughed at, in that order.


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