Death of a Statesman

You're right, of course.

"With great power comes great... what? Uncle Ben's alive? Screw that!"

One problem with this idea.

CoH Earth isn't RL earth.

For one thing, CoH Rhode Island is bigger than RL Rhode Island, due to the massive earthquake that opened up new real estate and of course, revealed the CoT.

Who knows what else could be different! :O

I know one thing that is different, Island Chains in the COHverse apparently can move around to a place that is convenient for the current plot.

The M.A.G.I. vault.

I think we're going to go with the "The events of the Tutorial take place BEFORE SSA 1" and leave it as is. It's isolated from the rest of the game up until you leave so the timeline still works.

Rumor is the Devs are goign to rename the STF some strange looking symbol with no way to pronounce or type it and we'll end up calling it TTFFKATSTF.

That makes sense. He was there for the Fall of GC. Galaxy doesn't fall again and differently because he dies.

Interesting though, "i22: Death Incarnate" takes up new meaning with the death of this Incarnate.

That's good - I like the comic the way it is, and Statesman still makes a little in-game cameo at the exit area at the end of the tutorial, so any new players should still be generally aware of him, which will give the first SSA a bigger impact if/when they decide to unlock it.

That dog won't hunt. If the map of the United States is radically different then that needs to be explicit: they have to supply the new map. Furthermore, you simply can't change the map enough to accommodate the geography in this case.

Oh, and as for Rhode Island being bigger, that's just a weak excuse for Did Not Do The Research. They just started cramming things in without paying any attention to the geography.

Actually, strangely enough there is such a place, or rather there is a place that meets the requirements I believe you are paraphrasing:



About where that arrow points is a potential spot where theoretically speaking since US territorial waters curve around, there is a place about 20 miles off the east coast where its possible for Nerva to be at the edge of US waters but the rest of the isles to be fractionally outside of them (another candidate spot is to the right of that spot around the W70.30 marker).

I'm not sure if it fits all of the descriptive text of the Rogue Isles, because frankly I don't remember all of the descriptive text surrounding the location of the Rogue Isles. But it does come nominally close to fitting the features in question.

Oh right, because Longbow taking Fort Darwin is inexcusable, but Recluse invading Galaxy City isn't grounds to just declare war and stop all over the Isles, right?

What so it can be stolen every other hour?

That bimbo in charge of it couldn't safeguard an Iron bar even if it was welded to the floor in front of her..

Yeah, I know for a fact that our earth has it's own Well of the Furies; Marcus and Steffan just didn't find it and died years ago.

COME ON, VENTURE. SUSPEND YOUR FREAKING DISBELIEF FOR FIVE SECONDS.

The one I'll miss is of course Troy's. I even choose to see the straw man a bit as Troy's, simply because to try and reconcile the repugnancy of his actions and character at times is impossible, so I selectively choose to see Statesman as well....Statesman.

If and when he comes back (noone dies forever in comics as we know), he'll be a better man, at least in the game. I half-suspect that Emperor Cole might take his place in an attempt to redeem his horrendous actions in Praetoria (because to me that'd be culmination of his story in a lot of ways: the man who did try and do the right thing and yet sacrificed innocents and created a dystopia in the bargain as well as being compromised by the Well facing those consequences...but that's just me), but I like trying to see story possibilities.

But until then, I'll be working out how to make a black armband in-game and hoping they do some sort of memorial service...


S.

He doesn't trust himself to not make a mistake he'll regret or to investigate objectively. He doesn't want to pull a Manticore.

Is it an active invasion in Galaxy though?

Is he actively attacking Civilians or is he just there laughing at Statesman and the Phalanx?

Attacking civilians, robbing banks, creating terror. That's what redside mayhem missions are all about.

Hero 1, please.

And at no point are officially sanctioned Arachnos operatives part of it. It's always you and your ne'er do well pals.

I've caught Ghost Widow and Silver Mantis robbing the bank in Peregrine Island a couple of times.

Okay, blueside safeguard missions then with the big bads of the Arachnos

Have you actually looked at a map of Providence or of Rhode Island in general?

It's not a question of suspending disbelief. Paragon City literally could not fit into the area in question. It would have taken all of five seconds for the people who originally mapped out the city to see that if they had bothered to do so.

When you decide that "my city is an alternate version of this real world city" then the logical thing to do is to figure out how your city is analagous to that real world city, not to just make up whatever geography you want and say "but this is a different world with different geography".

Venture is absolutely correct, though I suspect it's less "they didn't do the research" and more that the people who drew up that original map didn't actually care. They just picked Providence because it sounded plausible and ran with it.

Trust me on this. I've written fanfic set during the initial Rikti invasion and I tried to figure out how the freeways into and out of Paragon City would map onto the real city of Providence. The geography of Paragon City is not quite completely bogus for a city that supposedly sits where Providence sits in our world.

They're operating on their own initiative and will be disciplined appropriately when brought into proper custody in the Rogue Isles.

Not. Real. World. Honest.