Death of a Statesman


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He's supposed to die on SSA01E05 (which I presume goes live today). Does that mean we are getting a live server publish today? As if I recall correctly it was said that every content pertaining to the dead one would be removed from the game. Or is this something that will be done further down the road?

Also, can I kill him yet? Can I?


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They usually tell us ahead of time when the servers are going down for a live publish. Also, I believe it's been said by a dev in-game that it's not going live today.


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Oh... major let down then. Par for course with Statesman though.


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They usually tell us ahead of time when the servers are going down for a live publish. Also, I believe it's been said by a dev in-game that it's not going live today.
Both of those may be true, but there's a third thing to mention. They don't always have to bring the servers down and patch to activate contacts that are already in the build.



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Both of those may be true, but there's a third thing to mention. They don't always have to bring the servers down and patch to activate contacts that are already in the build.



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That's true; the other SSA arcs have gone live without downtime. However, if SSA 5 was going live today, it would've done so at around midnight Pacific if precedent were to be followed. Not saying that it still isn't possible; it's just not likely.


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That's true; the other SSA arcs have gone live without downtime. However, if SSA 5 was going live today, it would've done so at around midnight Pacific if precedent were to be followed. Not saying that it still isn't possible; it's just not likely.
I didn't say that it would. I was just clarifying that it can go live without a patch or downtime.

I agree, if it's not up by now, we're likely looking at next week.

However, as of me typing this, the Winter Event is still active, so go figure.




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I didn't say that it would. I was just clarifying that it can go live without a patch or downtime.

I agree, if it's not up by now, we're likely looking at next week.

However, as of me typing this, the Winter Event is still active, so go figure.




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Yeah, it's possible that maintenance is being put off by a day in order to get everyone back in the office and back into the swing of things. As always, I could be wildly, horribly wrong about this.


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That's what I was thinking too - who is going to come in early from vacation to pull a few switches, ow whatever it is they do to get stuff up? But just noticed that the Magic Carpets are available at the store, so now am at a loss.


 

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I have a question…If Statesman is suppose to die when SSA05 is published, what are they gonna do with him? He’s pretty much an icon of the game itself. If they kill him, then they’re gonna have to remove him completely from the game as he is in a ton of missions and story arcs to the Statesman Task Force. How are we gonna have a Statesman Task Force without Statesman?


 

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I have a question…If Statesman is suppose to die when SSA05 is published, what are they gonna do with him? He’s pretty much an icon of the game itself. If they kill him, then they’re gonna have to remove him completely from the game as he is in a ton of missions and story arcs to the Statesman Task Force. How are we gonna have a Statesman Task Force without Statesman?
They haven't said specifically. All we do know is that everything isn't going to change all at once. The in-game revisions will happen over a period of time.


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I have a question…If Statesman is suppose to die when SSA05 is published, what are they gonna do with him? He’s pretty much an icon of the game itself. If they kill him, then they’re gonna have to remove him completely from the game as he is in a ton of missions and story arcs to the Statesman Task Force. How are we gonna have a Statesman Task Force without Statesman?
My guess:

Ms Liberty will take over her grandpa's Task Force, moving to Indy Port to stand vigil on the aircraft carrier. Her job as Atlas Park's trainer will be taken up by Back Alley Brawler, who has nothing better to do since Galaxy City was destroyed.

As for story arcs dealing with Statesmen... they can just be considered to take place before his death.


 

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My guess:

Ms Liberty will take over her grandpa's Task Force, moving to Indy Port to stand vigil on the aircraft carrier. Her job as Atlas Park's trainer will be taken up by Back Alley Brawler, who has nothing better to do since Galaxy City was destroyed.

As for story arcs dealing with Statesmen... they can just be considered to take place before his death.
My speculation agrees with your speculation, which makes it a veritable fact. Yay!


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Personally I'm hoping Ms. Liberty finally goes off the rails and goes true Vigillante- she's teteering over the edge now. Have her removed as the Atlas Trainer, and set up BaB as the Trainer and the STF contact.

(Then add some hero Tip missions so I can hunt her holier-than-thou arrogant law-breaking *** down and toss her in the Zig! )




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Personally I'm hoping Ms. Liberty finally goes off the rails and goes true Vigillante- she's teteering over the edge now. Have her removed as the Atlas Trainer, and set up BaB as the Trainer and the STF contact.

(Then add some hero Tip missions so I can hunt her holier-than-thou arrogant law-breaking *** down and toss her in the Zig! )
What laws is she breaking exactly?


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They haven't said specifically. All we do know is that everything isn't going to change all at once. The in-game revisions will happen over a period of time.
I think they might happen in March, especially if that's when I22 goes live - March will be the 7th and final part of "Who Will Die", and it'd tie is well with the I22 title, as they seem to like having multiple meanings for the Issue titles


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What laws is she breaking exactly?
She's never been held accountable for the BLATANT illegal invasion of the Rogue Isles by her Longbow mercenaries.

Also, her attempted "take-over" of Vanguard duties in the RWZ. Considering Vanguard is sanctioned by the UN and as far as I know Longbow is NOT- in the eyes of international law she and LB aren't that different from Arachnos.




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She's never been held accountable for the BLATANT illegal invasion of the Rogue Isles by her Longbow mercenaries.

Also, her attempted "take-over" of Vanguard duties in the RWZ. Considering Vanguard is sanctioned by the UN and as far as I know Longbow is NOT- in the eyes of international law she and LB aren't that different from Arachnos.
RI is part of the UN? Last I knew it wasn't. Not to mention Arachnos many incursions into the US. What law is she breaking exactly by sending over heroes to the Rogue Isles, especially considering most of the villains there were broken out of the Zig and taken to the Isles.


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RI is part of the UN? Last I knew it wasn't.
You misunderstand; Liberty stuck her fingers in Vanguard business, and the Vanguard is a UN establishment. That'd be a pretty big no-no if she did it without the UN's permission.

Secondly, Longbow HAS invaded the Isles. The occupants of the Isles and Arachnos are two different groups. Nerva is pretty much occupied by Longbow, especially with Agincourt set up in the middle as a Longbow Stronghold. Yes, Arachnos has ops in Faultline, but nothing like Longbow has in Nerva.

Also don't forget that the Corps and other hero groups have been pinning the actions of the Rogue Arachnos on Recluse for some time now, even though he has absolutely no control over Marshal Blitz. If I had to guess, Blitz's involvement in the death of Alexis Cole-Duncan, the 'loss' of Sister Psyche, and the death of Statesman might just send Liberty over the edge.

Remember, Arachnos does things with their power; Paragon does things with politics and finger-pointing.


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What law is she breaking exactly by sending over heroes to the Rogue Isles
When has she sent heroes over?

When you have Praetorians going "Damn, these dudes are hardcore, arresting people with flamethrowers." and having a legitimate point your organization has issues.


 

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RI is consider a sovereign country according to the lore of the game, or it was the last time I checked (might have been retconned who knows- at the very least it is recognized by the UN). Is it run by a supervillain organization.. yes, but it's still not US soil, hence Longbow has no legal right to set foot on it, especially to conduct military raids like the one that occurred at CoV launch. (Look at Wyvern.. they are considered borderline, and Longbow exhibits the same attitude)

It is the same as the Avengers launching a raid into Latveria. They would LOVE too, everyone knows Doom is up to no good.. but they have to abide by the same laws they claim to uphold- something Ms. Liberty plainly chaffs against. Hence why she would be better off as a full Vigillante.




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Yeah. Right
Alright. Why don't you show me where Recluse has some sway in what Blitz says and does?

If you read his description, you'll find that the game lists him as a little more of a megalomaniac than Recluse himself, wanting to speed up the 'kill all heroes' process. Recluse hasn't been able to stop him; this could be for two reasons: either Recluse is letting Blitz make his scene so Arachnos can work without eyes on them, or he's stepping back and saying "I'm not about to associate Arachnos with that guy." We all know that the only way to give Recluse the finger and live is to go forward in time and bring him his own head, and Blitz hasn't done that.


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Yeah. Right
It's true. Recluse doesn't have control over Blitz. This does not mean, however, that Recluse doesn't have a certain...appreciation of Blitz's actions, even if he claims otherwise. Marshal Blitz has legitimately gone rogue (but not Rogue, mind you), but as long as Blitz keeps the missiles pointed at Paragon and not Grandville, Recluse is not really going to make any effort to untie his hands and get around to quashing that particular rebellion.


 

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