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So you can shoot him in the leg when your on the verge of being overrun?
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
A cricket bat and a chubby sidekick.
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This scene has kept me thinking about the old classic joke about the two guys trekking through the jungle. They find a clearing and set up camp for the night, make dinner, take their shoes off and relax. Right at dusk a tiger appears at the edge of the clearing, obviously looking for a nice dinner, and one of the guys immediately takes off running, the other starts pulling on his shoes. The running guy yells back to his buddy, Shoes wont help, youll never outrun a tiger! The second guy, who is now up and running just behind him says, I dont need to outrun the tiger, I just need to outrun you. |
Originally Posted by ObiWan
So you can shoot him in the leg when your on the verge of being overrun?
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The circumstances I think of when choosing weapons from a cache are:
-Where am I now/going? If I'm out in the country trying to just survive or if I'm in an urban area trying to pull out survivors...I'll be choosing different stuff.
-Who am I with? If I'm alone vs being with people that I need to protect because they can't do so themselves vs being with professionals that know what's up...I'll be choosing different stuff.
In the scene where all those zombies were trying to get at Otis and Shane through the fence, my thought was "Dang, car battery and some jumper cables!" But in the gym it was "KATANA!"
As they were hobbling away, my thoughts went to area denial/crowd control tools....
How heavy would it be to carry some of that police slippery goo stuff you spray on the ground? Zombies don't seem that quick/balanced so they'd most likely be semi-helpless if caught in a patch of that stuff. So in urban situations when faced with a hoard of zombies, spray down that stuff between you and them, wait for them to get at you in close and splat them one by one...I figure if that stuff can stop a car, it can stop a hoard of zombies that'd be pulling each other down and tripping over each other to get at me.
But ultimately, I'd choose 3 weapons. My first thought was a Katana but what if it breaks? So some kind of handy bladed weapon that has a bit of range and is reliable [insert whatever that is but in any case, katana], that slippy goo stuff (used in hoard situations) and either a crossbow or a slingshot (since a slingshot is something you can construct yourself, would it count as one of my 2 weapons?). I figure a slingshot can make practically any small object lying around into a projectile and you might be able to take out a zombie that's close enough to aim at their eye.
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How about a chubby cricket and a bat sidekick?
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Originally Posted by MentalMaden
A cricket bat and a chubby sidekick.
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How do you shoot the chubby sidekick with a cricket bat? Think, man, think!|
Originally Posted by ObiWan
So you can shoot him in the leg when your on the verge of being overrun?
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Edit - But yes, the reason for the arbitrary limit of two weapons was for a more philosophical debate about what would be better. Obviously, if I could just stuff every weapon in a bag I'd do that, and then just use whatever seemed best for the moment. But if you have to make a choice now that covers the most situations, what would your choice be.
I'm surprised by the katana choices, though. I know that it's a good weapon and all (if you get a legitimate one and not a QVC one), but I would think that there would be better close-quarter weapons out there for this type of situation.
Anyways, thanks for the indulgence here. Now back to your regularly scheduled talking dead discussions.
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With a slingshot
I dunno about that slingshot idea. I remember I was watching a show once where they tried to replicate the whole David and Goliath scenario (might've been Mythbusters) and they basically brought in the best person in the world with a slingshot and even then it was pretty difficult to pull off.
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I think the Katana enthusiasts must be Left 4 Dead fans. Unless you've learned how to swing one around in 360˚ arcs endlessly without getting tired and with enough force to decapitate or brain the zombies, then you're just carrying around a very eccentric butter knife. |
Originally Posted by Aett_Thorn
I'm surprised by the katana choices, though. I know that it's a good weapon and all (if you get a legitimate one and not a QVC one), but I would think that there would be better close-quarter weapons out there for this type of situation.
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If there's anything in that game I'd like to carry around in the zombie apocalypse, it would be the Molotov. If Shane and Otis could have chucked one right behind them, they'd have been able to get to the car no problem.
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You do realize that it'll just make them undead cannibals on fire if you do that, right? o.O
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Originally Posted by Rylas
I think the Katana enthusiasts must be Left 4 Dead fans. Unless you've learned how to swing one around in 360˚ arcs endlessly without getting tired and with enough force to decapitate or brain the zombies, then you're just carrying around a very eccentric butter knife.
If there's anything in that game I'd like to carry around in the zombie apocalypse, it would be the Molotov. If Shane and Otis could have chucked one right behind them, they'd have been able to get to the car no problem. |
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Don't forget that a katana will require sharpening stones, oil, and powder, if its going to be used more than once.|
Originally Posted by Rylas
I think the Katana enthusiasts must be Left 4 Dead fans. Unless you've learned how to swing one around in 360˚ arcs endlessly without getting tired and with enough force to decapitate or brain the zombies, then you're just carrying around a very eccentric butter knife.
If there's anything in that game I'd like to carry around in the zombie apocalypse, it would be the Molotov. If Shane and Otis could have chucked one right behind them, they'd have been able to get to the car no problem. |
Also...fire? Because that's what you want...ambulatory fire spreaders. Don't forget...there are no more fire departments. Start a fire with no way to keep it contained, plus the fact that the real terror of fire is lost on something that doesn't feel pain nor needs to breathe.
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But on the bright side, a flaming zombie can't really sneak up on you.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Don't forget that a katana will require sharpening stones, oil, and powder, if its going to be used more than once.
Also...fire? Because that's what you want...ambulatory fire spreaders. Don't forget...there are no more fire departments. Start a fire with no way to keep it contained, plus the fact that the real terror of fire is lost on something that doesn't feel pain nor needs to breathe. |
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I'd imagine that being consumed by fire would also mean that you won't be able to walk for long. Not feeling pain doesn't make them fire proof. Also, I can't imagine they're eyes to be fire resistant, so they'd be blinded pretty quickly, too. They can't get you if they can't see you.|
Originally Posted by Dark One
Don't forget that a katana will require sharpening stones, oil, and powder, if its going to be used more than once.
Also...fire? Because that's what you want...ambulatory fire spreaders. Don't forget...there are no more fire departments. Start a fire with no way to keep it contained, plus the fact that the real terror of fire is lost on something that doesn't feel pain nor needs to breathe. |
As for potential fire outbreak... Are you really going to stop and compare that to being eaten alive? I know I won't when in the middle of running. Beside, that zombie crowd was in a street, not the forest. Low risk for high gain in my opinion.
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My friend was actually suggesting trying to use those flares to burn the zombies in some way (I think it involved gasoline) and I'm all like, 'Right, so then you have a bunch of flaming zombies coming after you?'.|
Originally Posted by Rylas
I'd imagine that being consumed by fire would also mean that you won't be able to walk for long. Not feeling pain doesn't make them fire proof. Also, I can't imagine they're eyes to be fire resistant, so they'd be blinded pretty quickly, too. They can't get you if they can't see you.
As for potential fire outbreak... Are you really going to stop and compare that to being eaten alive? I know I won't when in the middle of running. Beside, that zombie crowd was in a street, not the forest. Low risk for high gain in my opinion. |
Sure, eventually the fire would consume the zombies' bodies, but how long does it take to cremate a body? And they don't need to see to get you. They go by sound as well. You'd have to wait for those parts to be consumed by heat or obscured by smoke. Worse yet, touching them could spread that fire uncontrollably...so better not let them touch you...or any trees/grass...or flamable stuff...because if you *are* running away from them for your life only to run into *another hoard*...good luck going back the way you came
And yah, I played Left 4 Dead. What of it?
But I've used swords before (mainly chinese broadsword and straight sword though), I think I can get the hang of a katana after a few uses.
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Fire doesn't consume them instanteously. It'll take a bit for the muscles to be rendered useless.|
Originally Posted by Rylas
I'd imagine that being consumed by fire would also mean that you won't be able to walk for long. Not feeling pain doesn't make them fire proof. Also, I can't imagine they're eyes to be fire resistant, so they'd be blinded pretty quickly, too. They can't get you if they can't see you.
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It also depends upon the type of fire you are using. Is it jellied fuel-based? Alcohol-based? Butane-based? Each one has different heat points and heck, some zombies may just be soggy enough that they aren't going to catch on fire right away.
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As for potential fire outbreak... Are you really going to stop and compare that to being eaten alive? I know I won't when in the middle of running. Beside, that zombie crowd was in a street, not the forest. Low risk for high gain in my opinion.
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Fire should be an absolute last resort. Only considered after everything from shotguns to badgers-onna-stick have been used up.
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Originally Posted by Dark One
Fire doesn't consume them instanteously. It'll take a bit for the muscles to be rendered useless.
It also depends upon the type of fire you are using. Is it jellied fuel-based? Alcohol-based? Butane-based? Each one has different heat points and heck, some zombies may just be soggy enough that they aren't going to catch on fire right away. Are you willing to risk destruction of materials that aren't being made anymore? Along with potential supplies? One zombie catches another on fire, that zombie catches two more. Those two spread it to yet more. One zombie collapses inside of a car and sets that on fire. Fire should be an absolute last resort. Only considered after everything from shotguns to badgers-onna-stick have been used up. |
But if they are on fire can they smell you?
And why didn't they just scoop up some zombie guts and try to saunter for their lives?
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Might not be able to smell you, but they can probably still hear you, if only for a while. There's also the apparent herd instinct wherein one zombie will follow another one. Unless they are all on fire, then there'll still be those that can see/hear/smell you.|
Originally Posted by BlueBattler
But if they are on fire can they smell you?
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Zombie guts probably don't work when they already know you are there.
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I think covering up in zombie guts would have worked, but as pratical as it is...would be a boring tactic to keep using in the show.
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Originally Posted by BlueBattler
But if they are on fire can they smell you?
And why didn't they just scoop up some zombie guts and try to saunter for their lives? |
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I'd think I'd want a .22 Rifle (ammo is cheap/Plentiful early on) and a Crowbar.
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Well apparently, a few dozen industrial strength rubber bands, some strong wooden planks or steel poles, a crowbar (to break stuff up into smaller handheld chunks) and a rooftop full of junk would economical, silent and somewhat portable for clearing out an area. Just move from rooftop to rooftop, taking zombies out with junk as ammo, and melee the ones hiding inside rooms.
As for covering up in zombie guts to hide...after a while, that can't be hygienic.
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Originally Posted by Leo_G
Well apparently, a few dozen industrial strength rubber bands, some strong wooden planks or steel poles, a crowbar (to break stuff up into smaller handheld chunks) and a rooftop full of junk would economical, silent and somewhat portable for clearing out an area. Just move from rooftop to rooftop, taking zombies out with junk as ammo, and melee the ones hiding inside rooms.
As for covering up in zombie guts to hide...after a while, that can't be hygienic. |
Reference zombie guts, I was talking about slathering it on and hobbling away instead of shooting people for distraction purposes...
1) Showers ftw
2) Youd run out of sidekicks to shoot after awhile.
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Originally Posted by Furio
Not the most practical of his creations, but I want this guy on my team.
Look for his pump action repeating slingshot-gun. Rack it like a shotgun to load a ball and arm the rubber straps, squeeze trigger to fire...repeat. Pure awesomeness. |
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Oh man, I can see it now...
There'd be slingshots that shoot out machetes. Slingshots that shoot out grenades. Slingshots that shoot out tanks. Slingshots that shoot out other slingshots that shoot out dogs that shoot out bees from their mouths.
It'd be carnage! Bloody ****ing carnage!
A cricket bat and a chubby sidekick.
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