The zombie herd was at least 8-12 hrs or so away by time they came upon the church...they'd called off the search for the night, remember. I don't think the noise was much of an issue compared to the opportunity for fresh protein.
What jarred me, oddly enough, was the Catholic crucifix in the Southern Baptist church. I get why they did it (visual focal point for the praying scenes, and a lil "hey look, zombie Jesus *nudge nudge*"), but still...I've never heard of a Protestant denomination displaying the cross with Christ still on it.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
I wish I'd watched or recorded some or all of the marathon because I'm sketchy now on details like how the plague started and how it spreads.
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Thanks, I forgot about that. I agree that it was a dick move on Dale's part. In a world gone mad, people should have the choice of whether or not they want to self checkout. He probably thought that she was still grieving for her sister and so wasn't in her right mine, but it was her call.|
Originally Posted by Lothic
And basically when Andrea decided to commit suicide at the CDC Dale sat down with her and claimed he would not leave without her. In the last few seconds she decided she didn't want to be the reason Dale killed himself too so she ran out. Obviously she's still mad at him for "tricking" her like that.
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It makes the scene of him dropping the screwdriver down to her even more meaningful. He "saved" her so she gets to get eaten in an RV bathroom... what a mess. Speaking of messes, how does she not get infected with all that blood over her? I can't believe she didn't have *any* broken skin for a pathogen to get in through, and what about her eyes and mouth? I guess unless you get bit good you don't zombify pre-mortem.
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I wasn't expecting the ending we got. I figured the dear would have been how they found the girl (Rick's answered prayer) or that a zombie would be lunging out of the bushes for the kid. Instead, the deer shot a bullet out of its chest!! 
Seriously, though, the writers were going to have to resolve the issue of kids aging too fast. Killing them off is the easier solution.
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Originally Posted by Furio
What jarred me, oddly enough, was the Catholic crucifix in the Southern Baptist church.
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Maybe its in the saliva, not the blood?
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Originally Posted by Rylas
I wasn't expecting the ending we got. I figured the dear would have been how they found the girl (Rick's answered prayer) or that a zombie would be lunging out of the bushes for the kid.
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That's a reasonable explanation.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
Maybe its in the saliva, not the blood?
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The thing that bothered me about Andrea's gun was that you'd think she'd know at least a little bit about how it worked and how to put it back together already. Sure I don't expect her to be super-SWAT trained solider, but still if her father gave her that gun you'd think at some point she would have learned the absolute basics about it. It just struck me as odd that she'd be completely clueless when it was already established that she and her sister spent a lot of time with their father camping, fishing and doing other outdoorsy things. Of course they did establish that she didn't even know about the safety on that gun in the first season so it seems like the writers can't decide if she's completely clueless in this area or not.|
Originally Posted by mousedroid
If her gun hadn't been disassembled, she'd have shot that walker in the RV and brought the whole herd down on her and Dale, and possibly the others. I think he was as much, if not more, concerned about that as he was about her killing herself.
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I can accept the idea that it'd be a good idea for Rick/Shane to properly familiarize everyone with how to use different types of guns. But I do think they labored the whole "Andrea shouldn't get to have a gun" point a bit too much just to stress the whole attempted CDC suicide thing.
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Originally Posted by mousedroid
My question is, why weren't the dead bodies in the traffic jam zombified?
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Likewise the virus apparently doesn't affect you unless it gets into the bloodstream so having zombie blood splash on you is just simply icky, not necessarily fatal.
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I wasn't expecting the ending we got. I figured the dear would have been how they found the girl (Rick's answered prayer) or that a zombie would be lunging out of the bushes for the kid. Instead, the deer shot a bullet out of its chest!! Seriously, though, the writers were going to have to resolve the issue of kids aging too fast. Killing them off is the easier solution. |
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Originally Posted by Lothic
The thing that bothered me about Andrea's gun was that you'd think she'd know at least a little bit about how it worked and how to put it back together already. Sure I don't expect her to be super-SWAT trained solider, but still if her father gave her that gun you'd think at some point she would have learned the absolute basics about it. It just struck me as odd that she'd be completely clueless when it was already established that she and her sister spent a lot of time with their father camping, fishing and doing other outdoorsy things. Of course they did establish that she didn't even know about the safety on that gun in the first season so it seems like the writers can't decide if she's completely clueless in this area or not.
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Hmm, zombie kids vs. deer that shoot bullets from their chests? I'll take two tickets for that show!
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Originally Posted by Mental_Giant
I thought zombie Sophia was going to jump out of the woods and start tearing apart the deer, until Shane or Rick put her down.
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Originally Posted by Rylas
Hmm, zombie kids vs. deer that shoot bullets from their chests? I'll take two tickets for that show!
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But clearly the deer being in the right place at the right time put Rick in direct contact with whoever shot the deer so in that regard it was the "sign" that he prayed for. Obviously his son getting shot was a bad thing, but that event will likely lead them towards the next step in their journey of survival, the least of which will be finding Sophia unharmed.
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Is it acceptable to reference stuff from the comics? Ya, it would be spoilers and all.
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But... Isn't that relevant? Because Dale was trying to get to the stomach.|
Originally Posted by Dark One
We just need them to meet Otis and he'll take at least one of those characteristics.
Gutting the Walker? That wasn't gutting. That took no skill whatsoever. True hunters know that you want to avoid slicing the stomach and/or intestines to avoid spoiling the meat. However, Darryl is a pretty good tracker. THAT takes skill. |
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... COMIC SPOILERS!!! ...
In the comic, Kirkman intended for Carl to have a near-fatal experience, so we'll get a version of that here. Andrea becomes the badass, so we'll get a version of that here. Shane dies... eventually, we'll get a version of that here.
But already all of the details have been changed. And I'm only surmising a lot of these - It's possible that Rick talking to the walkie talkie will provide the dramatic expository moments in the TV series that Rick's psychosis talking to a dead Lori provided in the book, so maybe she'll survive. *shrug*
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But... Isn't that relevant? Because Dale was trying to get to the stomach.
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At this point, I don't think the comics have any bearing on the show, except for maybe intentions. i.e., ... COMIC SPOILERS!!! ... In the comic, Kirkman intended for Carl to have a near-fatal experience, so we'll get a version of that here. Andrea becomes the badass, so we'll get a version of that here. Shane dies... eventually, we'll get a version of that here. But already all of the details have been changed. And I'm only surmising a lot of these - It's possible that Rick talking to the walkie talkie will provide the dramatic expository moments in the TV series that Rick's psychosis talking to a dead Lori provided in the book, so maybe she'll survive. *shrug* |
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Heh, yeah, I don't think they were worried about the contents of the zombie stomach spoiling the zombie meat
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See...those of who have read the comics "know" what's coming, in broad terms. We might not know exactly how/when/what they are doing with the show, but those previews are pretty much what happened in the comics.
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There are still some pretty big differences. The CDC and any virus explanation or origins it would have/could have provided are more explanation than the comics have ever seen.
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Originally Posted by ChrisMoses
There are still some pretty big differences. The CDC and any virus explanation or origins it would have/could have provided are more explanation than the comics have ever seen.
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Like I said before I'll probably eventually read the comics to enjoy the differences. But since the TV show is my first experience with the story I'd rather watch it standalone for a while until I get curious enough to want to read the comics.
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At least you're curious. I thought the Walking Dead could be the big source to make my wife curious about comics. She loves the TV show and is amazed at how scary it makes "dumb 'ol zombies."
But nope. No carryover.
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Personally I'd prefer no comics spoilers in these threads, but that's me. Even for things that are eventually going to happen because A) I will regularly be looking for those things to happen, and B) they won't have the same dramatic impact when they do occur.
Unconfirmed speculation is fine IMO.
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It's not so much that, but rather the smell. I've gutted plenty a deer over the years, and while they might not smell the greatest when you open 'em up, the stench can be pretty bad if the intestines have been cut or shot. It also makes (in this case) it harder to pull the stomach and its contents out if they've been ripped to hell by Mr. Lizzie Borden there.|
Originally Posted by Furio
Heh, yeah, I don't think they were worried about the contents of the zombie stomach spoiling the zombie meat
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Sounds like they might be doing the same kind of thing here that they did with True Blood on HBO. During the four seasons that show has been on they've cherry picked various bits and pieces of the novels it's based on and re-arranged the plot points (with new material) to reformulate a new version of the story. What this means for Walking Dead is that there'll be side stories from the comics that aren't covered in the TV show and/or other parts that are revealed much earlier in the TV show than they were in the comic books.|
Originally Posted by Dark One
That, and we're missing the twins and their parents, which later on is a decent enough plot point. The Hispanics weren't in the comics, nor is Darryl/Dale/whatever his name is. They've also passed up Wiltshire Estates and that whole bit with Sophia running off is also new.
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It looks like either way they're going to make an interesting show no matter how it turns out.
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My question is, why weren't the dead bodies in the traffic jam zombified?
I wish I'd watched or recorded some or all of the marathon because I'm sketchy now on details like how the plague started and how it spreads.
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