Discussion: When Do I Get My Paragon Points and Reward Tokens? (VIP)


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Originally Posted by Fixxer View Post
My billing date is the 11th of each month... seems to be working fine for me
Ive got no problem w ppoints either, its the tokens and especially my 5 year badge that I ought to have got last month that Im upset about. Well really mainly that badge is important to me and its more than a month over due.


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Originally Posted by Daemodand View Post
It will be removed on your next billing date...
I heard it was on or near the end of the next billing date cycle and it will thereafter gradually approach the beginning of the previous billing cycle date if your veteran rewards were previously awarded on a Tuesday in an even month, otherwise, it's the other way around.


 

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Ok.. let's see.

Got 1st token after i21 on Oct. 12th, got a token on the 25th which i assume is my 2 year vet date, but i never got the badge.

CS also told me that i will get my Token on the 28th, and their calculation seems off to me too.

Let's see what they say:
Every month after i21 launch you will get a token.

So, take away billing dates (for now). One full month of being VIP, uninterrupted, is from 13th to the 13th.

It's when u have a lapse in activity that they should change the date.
Say, you had an active account and you billing date is the 8th, but u need to bridge a few days and resub on, say, the 10th.
That's two days you were not VIP, meaning the 13th > 13th becomes 13th > 15th > 15th.

the 28th of November is a month and a half after October 12th. Two and a half months after the LAUNCH of i21. So their own time line seems to again differ with what they claim.

I get my useless server transfer on the 1st, got my points on the 8th, which is my billing date. But my tokens are what they are messing up.

And YES, i'm STILL waiting on my 2 year VIP badge, and even when CS tells me i have earned it, they can't give it to me?



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the 28th of November is a month and a half after October 12th. Two and a half months after the LAUNCH of i21. So their own time line seems to again differ with what they claim.
On the contrary, the NCsoft team does not count VIP Head Start's September 13 as "launch of Freedom".

The "launch of Freedom" seems to be on/around September 28, when freebies were allowed in the door. This jives with the November 28th dates we've all been given.

Granted, it doesn't make much sense when you compare it to the fact that we're supposed to get our monthly token at the end of our VIP months, which can be anytime during the month, not just the 28th.

What I'm concerned about is people missing token(s) and dropping sub. Will they ever get their missing token(s) since they are not subscribed on their award date? It kind of disturbs me that that is a distinct possibility.


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On the contrary, the NCsoft team does not count VIP Head Start's September 13 as "launch of Freedom".

The "launch of Freedom" seems to be on/around September 28, when freebies were allowed in the door. This jives with the November 28th dates we've all been given.
Actually, i21 went live for subscribers 1st, hence the headstart.
that i21 didn't open the door for the general public, has nothing to do with our tokens.

i21 went live Sept 13th, i got my token on Oct. 12th, a month after i21 went live.

This, and several other things are just making me very upset atm.
The team needs to not only get this issue, but Customer Support and a few other things back on track, or else they will loose quite a few players.



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Just adding my pseudo-monthly report on how this is functioning, or not.

Billing Date: 22nd of the month.
Received Paragon Points: On the 23rd (possibly due to log in time)

  • Result: Paragon Points are accurate as far as I know.

Received Reward Token: Not yet. (Last Reward Token received on the 23rd of October)
  • Result: According to what players have said, my tokens are accurate (i received one "extra" at launch). But according to time passed since Freedom launch, I am one short.


Overall result: Still waiting for clarity on what should be happening, as well as what my account should be. Not holding breath.


 

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Actually, i21 went live for subscribers 1st, hence the headstart.
that i21 didn't open the door for the general public, has nothing to do with our tokens.

i21 went live Sept 13th, i got my token on Oct. 12th, a month after i21 went live.
I didn't say a damn thing about i21. I deliberately said "the launch of Freedom", because that is the verbiage that the GMs are using. "The launch of Freedom" was when the freebies were let in the door (28th), not Head Start (13th). That is where your numbers diverge from the data the GMs are using.

Your September and October tokens were early. Your November token will be on the anniversary of the launch of Freedom.

In theory, sometime down the road everyone's tokens will be either a) on their Veteran Reward Date or b) at the end of their VIP month, but that's a road we haven't even begun traveling yet.


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What is the reason that tokens are tied to our old vet reward dates?

Is that somehow helpful to someone?

Is there a reason why aren't they tied instead to our bill date?

Why the vestigial system?

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and is there a pool going as to which day tokens will start showing up?

Last month the prevailing wisdom was the 28th, but they showed up on the 23rd because of something.

It's now the 23rd of this month. So I was wanting to check the action on that.
If there's not a pool yet, maybe I could be the book for it.


 

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All of my accounts got tokens today. It's not my billing day. It's not my old veteran's rewards days (those were all over the place across the accounts.) I don't know whether this token is for October, November, December, or 1982.

Oh and I got a random token on one account earlier this week.

*sigh*

I suppose one day they might be able to explain this to us, but meanwhile, at least they had the time to slap a big red "Buy More Points" button on the account screen.


 

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and is there a pool going as to which day tokens will start showing up?

Last month the prevailing wisdom was the 28th, but they showed up on the 23rd because of something.

It's now the 23rd of this month. So I was wanting to check the action on that.
If there's not a pool yet, maybe I could be the book for it.
I got my Paragon Reward Token on the 23rd. It is not my billing date (7th), my old Vet Reward day (12), a full month played (if calculated from Sep 28), or any day recognizable as meaningful. This is about as bad as forgetting your significant other's birthday, or heaven forbid your mother's birthday.

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All of my accounts got tokens today. It's not my billing day. It's not my old veteran's rewards days (those were all over the place across the accounts.) I don't know whether this token is for October, November, December, or 1982.
I think it is more 1984...




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I got my Paragon Reward Token on the 23rd. It is not my billing date (7th), my old Vet Reward day (12), a full month played (if calculated from Sep 28), or any day recognizable as meaningful. This is about as bad as forgetting your significant other's birthday, or heaven forbid your mother's birthday.
Same for me. My main account got one out of the blue yesterday. As far as I can tell, that doesn't match up to any date connected with the account... Including the day the token showed up for it last month.

My secondary account, which got its token the same day as the main last month, still hasn't recieved one for November.


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Including the day the token showed up for it last month.
It actually matches the day I got the token last month.

I got one on Oct 23-24 (didn't check, I might have got it late on the 23rd) and November 23.




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It actually matches the day I got the token last month.

I got one on Oct 23-24 (didn't check, I might have got it late on the 23rd) and November 23.
I actually got both on the 22nd last month... and my secondary account seems to have gotten its November token some time this afternoon. So, while the dates are close, they don't match in either case. Which is weird. o_0


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hum i was wondering...

part of our monthly paid game, is the 400 (+150) paragon point...

so i pay to have each month 400 (+150) paragon points.

i had 550 points on october 12th... we are now november 25th...

i think that 43 days are more than a month...

so you are not doing what your are paid for.

you could give us more points, you can t give us less points.

So if you plan on giving us the paragon points on december 1st (instead of november 1st)... think about giving more than 400(+150) points...

Regards.


 

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It actually matches the day I got the token last month.

I got one on Oct 23-24 (didn't check, I might have got it late on the 23rd) and November 23.
Same for me. I really don't know what date this correlates with. I'm pretty sure neither do the token pushers.


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Ive got no problem w ppoints either, its the tokens and especially my 5 year badge that I ought to have got last month that Im upset about. Well really mainly that badge is important to me and its more than a month over due.
You too? My bf was supposed to get his 7 year badge in September and I was supposed to get my 7 year badge in October and both of us are still waiting for that to appear. It's almost December and nothing has been addressed regarding this issue. Either nobody knows or cares if this is going to be resolved.

Honestly, I don't care about the points and tokens, I just want my badge.


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Wow, it's now been more than 50 days since this thread was started and we still have no idea what's going on.

And, apparently, neither does NC/PS.


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So...what's the over-under on the chance of tokens being granted on the 28th?



 

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So...what's the over-under on the chance of tokens being granted on the 28th?
Well, the 28th was the date on which the CS person who dealt with my ticket swore my tokens would arrive each month forever after, before they showed up on the 23rd or 24th for two months running.


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I couldn't check on the 23rd through the 25th, but I do seem to have my reward token now. I guess it caught up, and I will check on December 23rd for the next one.


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Ok i received my 550PP today.

as my bill is paid on the 28th, it's not illogic... but only 550 is not enough, as my last 550 PP were deliverred on the 10/12...

So you could give me 550PP on 10/29 and 11/29 : very cool

Or you could give me 550 + 550/2 PP on the 11/29 : exact number of PP you owe me.

But 550 on 10/12 and then 550 on 11/29, is 2 weeks without any paragon point... why?

your excuse is i created my account Jul 30, 2004 and not Aug 01, 2004, really?

does the word "prorata" mean anything to you?

Why some players would have less Paragon points than others...

Paragon Points begin the same day for everybody, so everybody must have the same amount. And for reminder, PP don't cost you anything... so there is greed in your way of doing this.

if i had created my account 2 days later, i would have had my paragon points for 28 days now, and would have my next point in 2 days... so basicaly i would have 550 more paragon points, is it your logic?

i feel you are stealing PP from me, i can t understand why some players have 550 more paragon points than me, as i could have many years of paying more than them.

the leading word here is : prorata!


 

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Somewhere far back in this thread, I believe I complained that the late delivery of points would result in missing out on special sales. That's turned out to be the case with the extended Black Friday sale:

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Actually, it was extended because we recognized that there were many players who wouldn't get their stipend points until the 28th, 29th or 30th, so we decided to extend the sale until 11:59:59 PM Pacific on 12/1 to benefit those customers.
My billing date is the 1st, so this would be perfect timing - if the billing department had their database working correctly. Since it's evidently still not, there's little expectation that those affected will get their paid-for-in-advance VIP points in time.

If we could get receive regular official updates, say, semi-monthly, about how fixing the billing cycle-points desynchronization is progressing, that would go a long to reassuring affected players.


 

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Customer "support" 101: If you have no idea what's going on, ignore ignore ignore. When pushed, throw out a random time/date. Chances are, your customer will eventually give up in frustration and you can close your ticket as a success.


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Customer "support" 101: If you have no idea what's going on, ignore ignore ignore. When pushed, throw out a random time/date. Chances are, your customer will eventually give up in frustration and you can close your ticket as a success.
Although my Paragon Points appear to have shown up early, my attempt to make a purchase on the Market crashed my machine - an OSX issue that's been around since the Freedom beta - so I've opened a ticket. As anyone can see from my persistent posts in this thread and others, I'm not the type to give up in frustration about anything. Here's hoping support will be, well, supportive.