Premium Players get less than expected!

so much mad

What if someone went out and got the City of Heroes: Architect Edition box?

This is not as gray of an area as Incarnates.

The person bought the box advertising itself as giving you AE. Once the free month runs out that person loses AE and has to buy it AGAIN from the in game store.

That is a screw job.

Basically, "you keep what you paid for" was a foot-in-mouth flub where someone - and I don't remember who it was - went off-script to give us a general idea of what to expect before the full write-up was complete. Considering this isn't stated in any of the official documentation for Freedom that I've been able to find, at least, then I'd say the side-by-side comparison is what you need to go by.

Developers say a lot of things, and not all of them come true, as well as a lot of things they shouldn't have. That's why Marketing people are always watching over their shoulder. Never hold a developer to task over what they say on the forums in informal conversation, that's a lesson I learned a long time ago.

For the record, I WILL try to go through the Freedom stuff and see if this isn't actually said somewhere. That would be a major flub if it is.

*edit*
I stand corrected. That promise IS in the official documentation. Player Choices -> Returning Players says:

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Originally Posted by Arcanaville Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

Ok...lets check the box

Right, I'm out, the comprehension fail is far more than I can cope with.

If they let premium players that are returning at least have the incarnates and the IOs on at least the characters they have but buy the inventon liscence for when they make new characters that would be nice I think.

I am not very sympathetic with this complaint. For one thing, marketing needed to express that players kept booster packs/purchased character slots/going rogue content etc. as premium players. They decided to do so by saying that you "keep everything you bought". Any research at all, however, will tell you that no aspect of the incarnate system is included for premium players.

Is it fair that players who bought Going Rogue don't have access to the incarnate system without paying a sub? Yes (since they bought GR expecting that they would have to have a sub to maintain access to its content)

Does it make sense for Paragon Studios to gate incarnates behind a sub? Yes (because they believe it is their most compelling content, and they need to gate something to make VIP worthwhile)

So what is the complaint? That there are words which led you to think something is true, when in fact it isn't.

What did it cost you to realize this? The time to download the game.

Sorry, no sympathy here.

Yay! This is the what # thread about this? No. Incarnates were mentioned as a "Sneak Peak" for Going Rogue and were not part of it. End Game is an incentive to subscribe. Going Rogue gives you the ability to side switch and access to Praetoria. VIPs deserve something for their continued support of the game.

Premium was "never" intended for Subscribers to step down. It was never meant, no matter how much time you have spent in the game, as a means for a Lifetime subscription, a feature Paragon stated they would not be offering at the very beginning.

If you are Premium you should "always" be behind VIPs. Sorry, we support the game, we should reap the bennefits. I'm not saying Premiums don't support the game, but it's on a "I want that basis" and that could mean $0 spent for several months. Ala no continual support.

I think at best this is disingenuous and at worst it is a lie.

I'm losing a lot of respect for Paragon these last couple weeks, between these weasel words and what appears to be a steadfast desire to price gouge as much as possible from the Paragon Market, without giving clear examples of what are are and aren't buying.

Aside from the Incarnate system, I think a lot of premium players are going to be annoyed that the invention and auction systems are unavailable to the vast majority of them. God forbid they outfitted their character with IOs before they let their sub expire because they're going to be in for a nasty surprise, especially after they use one of their "character unlock tokens" on an essentially useless character.