Discussion: VIP Head Start - Patch Notes for Build 2100.201109170227.1

A standard that said the XP from rezed customs were too much.

Another non-answer.

Care to try again? Do you even bother reading anything but the last line?

In case the answer to that is no,

Purple with green polka dots is overpowered and needs to be adjusted for the Phlogenberg principle or the game will have serious issues.

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I stopped taking you seriously when you went to name calling.

Long after you showed your true colors, dearie. Not to mention the rather bizzare "pool" statement you made, and your clear lack of understanding of anything the devs said re: MARTy and farming.

/golfclap

I've been waiting for you to say something TO take seriously (instead of "as seriously wrong") for a while now.

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I'm just curious: How would you define the spirit of the game?

Also, as I recall, you are not one of the most alt-heavy posters to the forums; could that have some effect on your views of the levelling process?

I'ld love to spilt this hair with you really I would, but that would require the AE not to be filled with exploitative farms. If they did ever do mass bannings again (using MARTy for acc) they would once again only target the top %. I don't see how you could make that top % if you weren't exploiting.

AE farming would not work without stacking the deck.

I think it may slow down the amateur farmers. But more than likely, this was done to "appease" the AE purist whiners that they are srslymad at farmers and are gunna do something about it.

And, by and large, AE sheeple are buying this as a fix without really understanding what just happened. Problem solved! Lookit...the devs did sumfin! I think your vanity is obscuring your common sense but if this makes you feel better....

I really agree with you. I was also under the impression that level pacting was a perk that they would offer to VIP's during the VIP head start program. I never could find an "end date" to the VIP head start; in fact, some of the VIP head start special events are still forthcoming as I type this, indicating to me its not ended yet. To stop pacting without telling us "Pacting will end on Sep 19, 2011" is just bad form on their part and makes me question whether or not they really have a grip on this release.

Not really.

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They aren't though.

If you are RP oriented, you know of the tag system (LBMA, etc) and can just type those in. All this talk of "real" missions is pretty elitist; a mission in this game has objectives and a completion. Certainly you're free to read the text and immerse yourself, but some of us (points to self) have been here close to 10 years. I've run through some of the Dev's Choice stuff. Some of it is great and others have EBs or AVs with very little warning. Another arc is just the same mission, FOUR TIMES with some mission text changed, which was tiresome to complete. After the second run through the mission, I just sped to the objectives.

Think of AE like a food court:

Do you want instant gratification (A&W, KFC)? It's there.
Do you want something "healthier" (Sbarro, Sushi places)? It's there.
Do you want something more adventurous (Mix & match places like Thai Express)? It's there too!

Government can tax the potato chips but if someone wants to gorge on them...it's on them. I don't. I have them occasionally and leave the snackers on their own. Likewise, the developers cannot stop players from achieving level cap as quickly as they wish, short of utterly drastic measures such as playing X missiosn per day, which would be a complete disaster.

City of Heroes Freedom...to run whichever missions you'd like (Papers, AE, TFs, Trials, Tips) or just have to go through sanctioned content? Not to mention there are some great arcs that never ever get noticed by the Devs...and their selection of Dev's Choice has never been really explained outside of "We like this more".

I had to read that sentence a couple times, but in the end I still had the same reaction.



EDIT: And yes, if you're really heading down that road in response to Golden Girl of all posters...

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I find it interesting that you seem to side with the sentiment that farmers are human garbage over the sentiment that compares that sentiment to Mein Kampf.

Or is it just the absurdity of quoting Hitler that bothers you? Because, you know, that was kind of the point. Comedic license and all that.

To clarify: do I really think Golden Girl is comparable to Hitler? No. Do I think she would've made a great Nazi...?

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May I suggest you file a petition. If in fact the leveling pact you had with your girlfriend was broken before this Tuesday morning, I would think that's NOT working as intended.

But, that does you little good now, I'm afraid. I would send a PM to Avatea or Beastyle and ask them what's what.

I am really, seriously trying to understand what has you so upset about the "ebil farmers/pl-ers ".

Is it this supposed lag that the running of their missions cause? Because if they weren't in AE, they'd be somewhere else using just as many server resources.

Is it because people are satisfied with these silly, farms instead of well-planned, beautifully written stories?

I remember back when they nerfed burn, because some of the players had felt it unfair that one toon could do the work of 8 just as fast as 8. (well maybe almost as fast, maybe faster, depended on the 8 and the tank)

Defenders (in general, certainly not all of them) seemed to be the ones with the biggest problem because they weren't needed. When this happened, a lot of fire tanks got shelved.

So, are you just feeling left out, unappreciated?

See, I wasn't here when the devs mentioned that they would "frown" upon farming in AE. If Matt Miller were in my presence now, I would have told him that he might as well be putting a carrot before a horse with a statement like that. That's similar to telling my daughters to avoid dating guys with earrings and long hair because of my unfair personal biases. One might obey, but the other might do it just to see what my reaction would be.
Or maybe, it's because rules without relationships reap rebellion. You tell someone they can't, well that just makes some of them want to. Especially when they cannot see how what they're doing has any impact on anyone else.

I seriously don't understand all this fuss about how I spend my time in game-- or is it just coming across like that? Am I being too defensive? Maybe. I doubt it, though.

I defeated the Seed of Hamidon today and did not receive Germinator Terminator. Others on my league also experienced this issue.

This is pretty much how I see the AE farmers, children doing things they were specifically told not to.

Please just stop posting. I'm sorry if running the same non-exploitive mission in a row hurts you.


You can PL to 50 in less than a day with a regular mission, so that statement is invalid.

I'm sorry, I have a built-in GG filter. She says stuff, I scroll past, so I miss the fun stuff like calling other players 'trash'.

Its the fact that GG's dug her hole well and deep and you're rollin' up in a backhoe so you can match her level of immaturity. A+, would get my third box of popcorn if I already didn't have it.

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Then that mission is poorly designed, and needs to be reworked... and/or changes to the specific set of powers that makes that possible.

As much as I hate to agree with GG, that kinda thing is NOT nor will it ever be, in the "spirit" of the game. (Note, I am purposely NOT talking about whether those things are or are not exploits, or if farming is wrong or not... just the way the game was intended.)

And what about those of us who actually wrote a fun campy story that revolved around an extension of an in-game villain group?

Seriously, I have had to adjust it before and now I'm just going to delete the story because it's not worth it anymore to deal with it.

The story is "The Supa Dupa Cookie Caper". The premise of the story was originally a group of extra tough Supa Trolls kidnapped a girl scout troop and stole their cookies. Supa Dupa Trolls were SS/Regen custom Lieutenants (made to mimic the existing Supa Trolls found in Skyway, but with the added threat of getting back up). I had made a second story arc to explain their origin even and put some work into actually explaining them and why they were amped up Supa Trolls. When they nerfed the XP for having only one enemy type, I reluctantly added minions and bosses even though it made them less like the Villain group they were emulating. The mission did give (probably too) good XP when it was all Lieuts. I knew that nobody would run it at all if I left it as all Lieuts after the change since the XP would not be worth the risk. (The explanation arc hasn't been available for a while since I never bothered to change that one and it got banned and I didn't feel like bothering to change it)

And now they won't give XP after reviving. So I am left with a choice: Keep them as is to preserve the story and wind up pissing off anyone who plays it because they all get back up and give no extra xp to make up for it; or I remove their revive power and lose the whole point of the group. They're Supa DUPA Trolls. Not very Dupa if they don't revive.

So yeah, just gonna delete the story. Whatever, thanks exploiters for ruining my campy story.

I'll play your arc tomorrow, and rate it based on campness, not on rewards

I'm concerned about your heart, all the buttery crisp goodness you are going to eat in here is going to kill you.

If I cared about such a thing this would have made sense. But if AE farming was non-exploitative it wouldn't have boomed.

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