I'm sorry, but I say no.

NCSoft, Please reconsider your decision to close down CoH. It has an extremely loyal following and enjoys a great amount of free support from the larger community.

I invite everybody to add the above image to your signature as a petition to reverse NCSoft's decision.

This is why Crim is a Bishop in the Church of the Drunken Squirrel.

Yeah but it would sure make an entertaining episode on Peoples Court or Judge Judy.

Yeah it's true! The third degree burns were all faked. The hospital doctors and nurses where she was treated were all in on it. They all lied about the severity of her injuries and the skin graft was never actually done. It was all a huge conspiracy designed to get back at McDonalds because they stopped selling McRibs at that restaurant.

In fairness, McDonald's should be punished for discontinuing the McRib.

Meh. Never was a fan of them. No I absolutely loved Burger King's taco's. They were 2 for a buck and tasted better than Taco Smell's.

NCSoft, Please reconsider your decision to close down CoH. It has an extremely loyal following and enjoys a great amount of free support from the larger community.

I invite everybody to add the above image to your signature as a petition to reverse NCSoft's decision.

Actually, the subscription isn't costing you anything. Subscription is 14.95/month. They give you 400 points (5.00) and a free server transfer (9.95) every month. 5.00 + 9.95 = 14.95.

And that assumes you are using the monthly subscription plan. If you use any other plan, they are actually paying you to stay subscribed.

The title of this thread is, "I'm sorry, but I say no." If you say, "no" then that's fine. Say "No", and move on. What this thread is really about is, "I want to say No, but your marketing makes it so hard, so I am gonna complain about how effectively you tempt me to spend more money."

Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme I said "ur" which is not a word. It's a sound dumb people make when you ask them to spell out "you are".

I suspect neither. A more rational explanation could be that they are in different time zones, or are active on the forums at different times for some other reason. This is an example of the tip, "Not everything is a Nemesis plot."

Originally Posted by Frosty_Femme I said "ur" which is not a word. It's a sound dumb people make when you ask them to spell out "you are".

You LIAR!

Which is exactly what Nemesis wants you to think!

NCSoft, Please reconsider your decision to close down CoH. It has an extremely loyal following and enjoys a great amount of free support from the larger community.

I invite everybody to add the above image to your signature as a petition to reverse NCSoft's decision.

The powersets you want for free are powersets that EVERYONE has to pay for, without exception.

By subscribing, you have the ability to eventually get them for free. Free and Premium players do not get that perk. If they want that set, they are dropping $10 out of their own pocket, while you, on the other hand, will get them after 2 months with no additional expense on top of your normal subscription fee.

They pay $10, you pay nothing, but have to wait until you accrue enough points.

I'm sorry, I don't see the logic of your complaint. Now, if they were not giving us any points for free and making us pay the $10 out of pocket as well, maybe THEN I could see your complaint as being a little more reasonable.

Your complaint is caused by your own impatience, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately.

You are absolutely correct. I totally forgot about the value of the free server transfers. So from our account billing page this is what we have.

1 month: $14.99* - $14.95 for server transfer and store credit = $.04 monthly sub fee.
3 months: $41.85* (equivalent to $13.95 per month) - $14.95 for server transfer and store credit = NCSoft paying us $1.00 to be a VIP
6 months: $77.70* (equivalent to $12.95 per month) - $14.95 for server transfer and store credit = NCSoft paying us $2.00 to be a VIP
12 months: $143.40* (equivalent to $11.95 per month) - $14.95 for server transfer and store credit = NCSoft paying us $3.00 to be a VIP

My god we are so getting screwed. Do the devs really think we are just going to allow them to pay us to play this game?

PAYING VIP'S TO PLAY IS UNFAIR!
PAYING VIP'S TO PLAY IS UNFAIR!
PAYING VIP'S TO PLAY IS UNFAIR!
PAYING VIP'S TO PLAY IS UNFAIR!

Translation: You know that you are wrong but you'll never admit it.

Pray they don't amend it further?

Then why have you been paying at all, because it's always been that way. You keep ignoring that simple fact and acting like what they're doing now is new and different, and it's not.

I wish to become a member of the Church of the Drunken Squirrel - do you have some pamphlets/literature I could distribute?

Consider yourself a member of the congregation. Heck you can be a Bishop too if ya like .

We hold daily services wherever alcohol is consumed and should you ever feel the overwhelming power of Ralph Almighty,



there are altars conveniently located for personal prayer sessions, confessions, and sacrifices.

As far as pamphlets and literature are concerned, we talked about printing some until we realized we could buy more booze with the money.

The Cryptic model is a lot more ala carte focused than ours is, and places a lower value on subscribing or being a VIP. The Turbine model is a virtual twin of ours in terms of the overall program's structure. I'm pretty certain the Turbine system was the reference model for Freedom.

However, both have VIP subscriptions, and both have ala carte systems. The "strange double dipping" you keep complaining about exists everywhere else in Hybrid models, whether you are able to recognize that fact or not.

I was suggesting that it would merely get locked due to the petty bickering that has developed on a tangent off from the original topic (such as it was).

Still kinda shocked it's not closed yet, especially given that the thread has now literally gone down the toilet.

You missed one. Well, 2 I guess. They had sales where you got 7 months for the price of 6 and 14 months for the price of 12. And those stay active as long as you pay. So for me, it is $10.24 a month, minus the $14.95 = $4.71 a month for playing.

I didn't include the sales because they aren't listed on the account page, also I couldn't remember the exact details of the sales.

Sweet!

I am going to buy 1000 annual subscriptions and then I will be set.

hehehe

I've seen a few comments. Those comments represent (IMO) a minority of a server population.

Here's why I fault your logic on this being something worthy of impact. City of Heroes is a game that is, for seven years, based its gameplay highly on the concept of community. It's why those who identify themselves as Guardian players insist on staying there, and why Freedom players insist on staying there, etc.

I have no doubt VIPs will check out the server. I also have little doubt that they'll transfer a few 50s there that they don't play often, to free up space on their home server. For those who have a dying server population, they might choose to establish on VIP, but I find it MORE likely that, if things really became that bad, they'll just transfer to another "live" server.

The "live" servers are where the established communities are. And ultimately, this is where home is for all of us: Where you keep all your stuff, and where you walk into a TF and everybody knows your name.

I still don't get the allure of the VIP server, just to "run away" from the free players. IMO, these are exciting times. I'd love to see the doors open and watch fresh players engage in the new tutorials, and listen to AP chatter as they ask questions there, in /guide, etc.

For my part, on Freedom, I'll be wearing my "Helper" flag happily. Because for every one person who decides "to heck with this, imma go to the vip server", there's probably 20 vets who'll say, "Fresh blood. I love it."

And 100 new players, wanting to learn from the oldest of us. Or at least, leech from the richest of us.

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