Rocket Boards?


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I kinda like the option of being able to fly around on a chunk of rock. You know like Terra or something. It would be thematically great for earth controllers.


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This is actually a very elegant solution to that problem.



David, I think what needs to happen here is all this talk needs to get rolled under the umbrella of Pool Power Customization.
There didn't need to be a duplicate Fly power IMO and Ninja and Beast run, while they have their place as a low-game pseudotravel power, shouldn't be relegated to just the lowgame.
I know plenty of folks who would rather go forth on all fours at 80+mph than with feet on fire. Flipping as you jump across rooftops shouldn't be the sole domain of the <14 crowd. A rocket board should be enhanceable. You can upgrade the kit on your car to improve performance, it seems daft that you couldn't do the same with the turbines on the board.

But, so as not to derail, here are my suggestions for other things to fly on:
Broomstick (a given.)
Magic Carpet
Some kind of disc, either a manhole cover or some kind of tech disc
Nemmy Warhorse.
Customizable rocket board.


With the advent of the market system you could gate some of these as microtransactions once you get the backend code in place for customizing pool powers. But be mindful not to nickel-and-dime us to death.
Unfortunately, with what I bolded you already hit the nail on the head on WHY they initially had to do them as separate powers and not pool customization.


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Elegant? Perhaps. But definitely practical/realistic at any rate.

As we all know it'll likely be impossible for the Devs to provide multiple new fully animated travel powers that'll cover all the suggestions that have been mentioned in this thread so far. It's just not going to happen. And even the idea of "power pool customiztion" is problematic at best because once again you're talking about having to create an entire set of animations for each customization. If that were "easy" the Devs would have done that years ago.

But it may be far more possible they'll be able to create a new batch of flypose emotes that'll handle many of these ideas. For example there's really no reason they couldn't create a flypose emote that has a character appear to be riding a broom or standing on an energy disk.

Yes the flypose emotes are a bit cumbersome to use and aren't as cool as fully dedicated powers (with all the associated animations that make them react appropriately in all situations) but as a compromise feature that already exists in-game they're probably our best bet for many of these things.
Agreed. I have a feeling static poses would be easier to do. You don't have to worry about animating other powers while in those poses.

Yes, I know that annoys some folks who want to be able to attack while riding their rocket board/disc/broom/GIGANTIC SCROOGE MCDUCK GOLD COIN TURNED ON ITS SIDE, but I think it's more realistic if we EVER want to see any of the suggestions posted in here anything before the game shuts down.


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Clearly, what's needed is some sort of modular fly power. You'd go to a Mechanic, where you'd construct a "flypose" much as you construct a costume now. You'd have a baseline, a choice of pre-selected action angles (180 degrees, 90 degrees), variety of poses, a variety of accessories, and a variety of auras and contrails. All of them would use the same basic fly power and you wouldn't require an additional power for each possible version of flight.

This could then be extended to ground-bound travel powers.

You know, that started out as a tongue-in-cheek idea but I think I might go ahead and pop onto the suggestions forum.

Also, if the Green Goblin can maneuver his bat jet thing indoors as well as he does then I don't see a problem with using a rocket board indoors.


 

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how about a flying Persian rug, UFO or plane/jet, helicopter, powered paraglider (flight) a summonable car you can drive on the streets [would be extra fun if you could run over civilians] or galloping horse (super speed) a pogo stick or spring boots (super jump) not jet boots
"Spring boots" are sort of available already. The craftable "Piston Boot" costume part is the "Spring Boot" of the game, currently. They're not as flashy as the jet boots, but they do make a satisfying "whumpf" kind of graphic when you hit the ground at the end of a jump. A spring boot wouldn't look much different except for, well, springs instead of pistons.

Now, Moon Boots... heh


 

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David, I think what needs to happen here is all this talk needs to get rolled under the umbrella of Pool Power Customization. ...
You're more than welcome to post your thoughts on Design issues, and I'm sure other devs will read 'em, but that's not my area of focus. I'm going to zero in on the artistic inspiration side of things.


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Rainbow Path Aura and Fly?
Yup. That should already be possible. Or maybe you were suggesting a space-kitten-Poptart-power? I'll get on the horn with Kellogg's and see if we can make some magic happen. :P


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Yup. That should already be possible. Or maybe you were suggesting a space-kitten-Poptart-power? I'll get on the horn with Kellogg's and see if we can make some magic happen. :P
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Yup. That should already be possible. Or maybe you were suggesting a space-kitten-Poptart-power? I'll get on the horn with Kellogg's and see if we can make some magic happen. :P
Well, just a rainbow pop-tart. The Kitten part can be supplied by the player on top of the pop-tart.

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You're more than welcome to post your thoughts on Design issues, and I'm sure other devs will read 'em, but that's not my area of focus. I'm going to zero in on the artistic inspiration side of things.
translation: Television and Pohsyb are more than slightly crazy by now, and I'm not too keen on volunteering myself as hostage-bait for an armed standoff by mentioning power-pool customization to them again.


 

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Put me down for the standing on a cloud, magic carpet and broomstick ones as well.

Also, just a simple disc to stand on (and maybe a disc for each foot, like in ReBoot?) Oooh, and a helicopter backpack? Or what about riding inside your own mini-tornado?

Also, what about a meditation flying power the lets you zip about in the lotus pose?

Are full body transforms possible? i.e. A flight power where we turn into a globe of energy or maybe even a bird?


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For flight, I'd be with the crowd standing on a broomstick. Flying carpet would be good too! Discs are ok, and anything that looks like a device - maybe with the rocket boots graphics coming out the back side of it?

But why not do stuff on the ground, too, as an alternative graphic for Superspeed? People have been asking for ages for roller skates (though am not sure why), but skateboard would be fun, and so would sliding along on an ice slick you create in front of you, like the ice-blasting guy in The Incredibles did? The animations for that already exist in the Hallows' Frostfire mission.

Before the graphics were fixed on the Coralax Hallween costume, engaging Superspeed at the same time as turning would cause you to slide with sparks under your feet, creating a sort of "super-skid" effect that lasted until you did some other movement. It was my favorite costume to get, because that animation with the sparks undefoot was just wonderful fun! And, if you had a flying toon, the bad graphics would cause you to look like the Coralax was shambling along in mid-air, but still traveling at flight speed, which was great too! It looked spooky and rather "otherworldly". I always told people I'd pay to have these effects permanently on my character.


 

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To get a good idea of a hover board you should play ratchet and clank, the 2nd best game ever made (COH is numba 1)


 

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That's actually a lot easier/more feasible than broomsticks, etc. If the stance animations remain the same, all we'd really have to add would be new models to go beneath the feet. Should be very doable, so please let us know what would be your top requests for alternate flying devices.
Flying carpet!


 

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For some concepts: A "Propel" style power where you're standing on some random item every time you fly. Probably start with the list of objects from Propel and remove everything that's either too big or isn't flat on top.
Possible sub-sets: "Stuff made of metal only", "Stuff made of wood only", etc.


 

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Originally Posted by Caligdoiel View Post
This is actually a very elegant solution to that problem.



David, I think what needs to happen here is all this talk needs to get rolled under the umbrella of Pool Power Customization.
There didn't need to be a duplicate Fly power IMO and Ninja and Beast run, while they have their place as a low-game pseudotravel power, shouldn't be relegated to just the lowgame. I know plenty of folks who would rather go forth on all fours at 80+mph than with feet on fire. Flipping as you jump across rooftops shouldn't be the sole domain of the <14 crowd. A rocket board should be enhanceable. You can upgrade the kit on your car to improve performance, it seems daft that you couldn't do the same with the turbines on the board.

But, so as not to derail, here are my suggestions for other things to fly on:
Broomstick (a given.)
Magic Carpet
Some kind of disc, either a manhole cover or some kind of tech disc
Nemmy Warhorse.
Customizable rocket board.


With the advent of the market system you could gate some of these as microtransactions once you get the backend code in place for customizing pool powers. But be mindful not to nickel-and-dime us to death.
Ninja and Beast Run are NOT the sole domain of the under L14 crowd, sir. I have an Incarnate already who has Beast Run as his sole travel power. With two L50 Run Speed IOs in each of Swift and Sprint, plus the +7.5 Run Speed unique Defense IO, he nearly equals a Super Speeder.

I may be the exception to your 'rule' but I know I am not alone. Flipping off of rooves in the Rogue Isles especially is visceral fun. So could you please circular-file your assumptions?

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As for the Rocket Board, I think a Silver Surfer pose should be simple, since the Slide-Sprint from the CoH DVD Edition is already there. All that would need is to be spruced up for Power Pool Customization and given the ability to fly, and all of a sudden you have an Energy Rocket Board.

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Ninja and Beast Run are NOT the sole domain of the under L14 crowd, sir. I have an Incarnate already who has Beast Run as his sole travel power. With two L50 Run Speed IOs in each of Swift and Sprint, plus the +7.5 Run Speed unique Defense IO, he nearly equals a Super Speeder.

I may be the exception to your 'rule' but I know I am not alone. Flipping off of rooves in the Rogue Isles especially is visceral fun. So could you please circular-file your assumptions?

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As for the Rocket Board, I think a Silver Surfer pose should be simple, since the Slide-Sprint from the CoH DVD Edition is already there. All that would need is to be spruced up for Power Pool Customization and given the ability to fly, and all of a sudden you have an Energy Rocket Board.

@Raven Lord
That's not a unique enhancement.


 

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Ever see the MVAS fly away into the sky?

I want a robot who takes my hand and flies off into the night.

I want a flying car - I can't have it in real life so I want one in the game.

A clockwork animal who I can ride.

Motorcycle.


 

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Yup. That should already be possible. Or maybe you were suggesting a space-kitten-Poptart-power? I'll get on the horn with Kellogg's and see if we can make some magic happen. :P

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Unfortunately, with what I bolded you already hit the nail on the head on WHY they initially had to do them as separate powers and not pool customization.
And another reason, for the rocket board, is animations. Having it as a seperate power makes it easy for them to lock out other powers, preventing the need for them to make an extra animation for every power WITH an animation x4.5 or so (three models, some powers pair with shields, etc.)


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For some concepts: A "Propel" style power where you're standing on some random item every time you fly. Probably start with the list of objects from Propel
If I could have one of those, and the same object every time, I would build a character around it. I want to fly around standing on a coffin!


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That's actually a lot easier/more feasible than broomsticks, etc. If the stance animations remain the same, all we'd really have to add would be new models to go beneath the feet. Should be very doable, so please let us know what would be your top requests for alternate flying devices.
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Though I see it as an alternate Ninja Run type thing, except it would have a lower jump speed and more running speed.
Snowzone got there before I could. I have been waiting for an Ice Slide for a while, but the Frost path aura doesn't quite do it. The "model beneath the feet" would be formless, meaning that we can tell there is something there but it isn't necessarily solid (kind of like the Prestige Power Slide). Then it would have some sort of trail after it, probably like the Frost path aura (to save on animation creation time) but it would work in the sky unlike the current Frost path aura (only works on the ground).


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Yup. That should already be possible. Or maybe you were suggesting a space-kitten-Poptart-power? I'll get on the horn with Kellogg's and see if we can make some magic happen. :P
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So yeah, broomstick would be killer. And by the way, it's not that there wasn't tech to support Rocketboard; rather, animation time was the major consideration. Would be very curious to ask the animators about the possibility of broomsticks now...
If we do get a broomstick, can our techies also get a rocket that we can ride like a witch upon a broom?


 

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I was actually very dissapointed in the steampunk booster. it only had the backpack and the wings for steampunk tech and steampunk tech is a BIG part of steampunk so perhaps some steampunk tech we can fly around on like a steam jet device like the steam monowheel from "Steamboy"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steamboy


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I think this would be cool only with flying sharks.