Cut Scene Bombing

People are only allowed to have a certain amount of fun on my trials. If I see people having more fun than I think they should be having, I'll kick them, blacklist them, and make sure they never have a happy moment in their life again.

I end up 1-Starring people who do that. If that person feels they're too important to pull their own weight on the sabotage and let everyone else do the work then I'd prefer to not deal with that type of person in the future.

A.. yes I definately would and to answer the question you posed to someone else here is wht.

I was on a lambda where a Mastermind just out and out refused to even help his OWN team out with acids let alone helping mine with the grenades. He stood AT the gate the entire time waiting to pose in the cut scene. The reason i know is because on 2 occasions my Defender had to run past his lazy but to get back inside and TRY to help

When confronted by several members of BOTH teams his excuse was he was too squishy and would just die anyway.. Now keep in mind this was after I had run BACK from the hospital past him twice. So its okay if I die repeatedly helping my team but its a bother for him.

Now for the part that got him probably one starred by about 15 players including me. Despite him we managed to acquire all 10 acids and nades and off course there he was along with his pets in the cut scene with Maurader. We all teleported back to the entrance and then.. TRIAL FAILED MAURADER HAS LEFT THE FACILITY. The idiot either aggroed the AV himself or one of his pets did and maurader chased them out the front gate.. trial over.

Now you ask why would i kick someone for being in that scene before i knew if the trial would succeed of fail.. because i saw it fail due to someone being in it.

But wait I have more for you. Another lambda and the acid team is doing great ..eventually gets all 10 but the grenade team is filled with nothing but squishies and we run out of time with exactly 2 grenades. Okay still no huge deal YET. we just need to hit the weapons delivery points and pick up some more grenades before we attack the av.

I even warn people in league chat.. dont aggro the AV. Unforntunately 5 members of team 1 decided grenades were not as important as posing with Maurader and i no sooner got that warning out than all the adds and the AV were attacking us as we stood there in front of the facility. Care to take a wild guess who aggroed them.. our illustrious returning film stars. Multiple deaths began to occur and we were so busy fighting to survive no one could even get to the portals to stop the flow of adds. eventually it just got overwhelming and we couldn't stay alive long enough to even regroup.. people started quitting and the trail failed. So again.. HOW do you know what those idiots posing in that scene will cause to happen. You don't and more and more leaders and players are to the point where even if it means the trial fails and we start all over its time to send a message. You pose in that cut scene instead of helping your team mates and you are kicked.. not after the trial DURING it. period

Now for B.. No I have never had to or even ever felt there might be a need to kick anyone from a Task Force. But let's see.. the ITF.. cut scene triggers before anyone could possible get near Romulus. STF .. same thing no one is getting into the picture with Recluse or Aeon.. about the only scene in that where anyone could is the first mission posing with Sands. unless you weer after a master of I see no way that could cause failure. Lady Grey has a few cut scenes but again the trigger for them makes it impossible for anyone to actually be in the scene or at least i have never seen it... I suppose in the mission where we rescue Infernia some jerk could wait around where the Av spawned and be in that.. but again it wouldn't cause the mission or the TF to fail.

Its just not the same thing. And I have served as a team leader now on a number of trials and believe me after my experiences if i caught one of MY team in that cut scene the league leader wouldn't have to kick because IF i can i would.

i almost never kick(once in 7 years), i also dont lead trials. personally i see it as harmless, but on the same token, i can see how someone could see it as disruptive, and if the crates/acids were chugging, then i'd say kicking was completely justified, of if you lead marauder out and screw things up. so its a situational thing. if the trial is sailing through stuff and we are already at 10/8 or 10/9 and have several minutes, go ahead and get it out of your system.

but heres i guess what im seeing. if you know its disruptive, and that it bothers some people, i'd think common courtesy is to ask. if they say they need help, then pitch in, if not, then act a clown, but at least you have considered the other players. and if you are willfully inconsiderate..then yeah, you will get kicks, maybe not from old hippies like me, but from someone, and you will really deserve it.

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

When I run a league I warn people that Cut Scene bombers will be mocked relentlessly.
I've got a whole series of macros for mocking them that generally ensure you never do that crap again.

The sheer level of SRS BSNS in this thread is amazing and awesome. "NO, YOU'VE RUINED THE INTEGRITY OF MY CUTSCENE, HOW ELSE WILL I APPRECIATE THE STATIC, VAPID FACES AND EXAGGERATED HAND GESTURES!?!?!?!"

I've done it, but only because my team finished the crates and there were only 3 acids left to go, had just enough time to get into position with /e newspaper. I would never just stand there while everyone else collected temps though, bad form. In other words, its a pretty rare scenario that you can pull this off while still contributing.

Also, if you take off right after the cutscene, the AV doesn't aggro at all, its like the AV isn't "active" for the first few seconds or something.

Here's to hoping they replace those cutscenes with the new comic intros ASAP, the cutscenes in this game deserve all the mocking and bombing they can get.

Why don't all you SRS BZNZ LULZ folk form your own global channel and play together? That way, after the "Security Team" is defeated, all 16 of you can run out and get ready to pose in the cut scene.

I guess the thing I find most odd about this... is that the behavior isn't even vaguely funny anymore. It was humorous for the first two or three times I saw it done. Beyond that, it is like hearing a bad joke for the 537th time... it loses a bit in the re-telling, eh? Sorta like how hitting F10 during the ITF cutscene hasn't been funny for at least a year, and yet people still do it.

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Originally Posted by Spectreblade The first time I saw someone dancing in the Lambda Trial cutscene, my thoughts were "Why were you out there dancing instead of in here helping gather temp powers?"

This is why I would kick people for being in the cutscene... it has ZERO to do with how serious I am. It's about not helping when you should be.

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Originally Posted by War-Nugget As long as you state that you will kick it is fine. I am mainly talking about people who don't warn before they kick, much like those who kick people before TFs end. That is just the leader being a jerk.

There is no need to warn anyone of the fact that if they are stupid and not contributing to the League, they should expect a Kick. Also, if people are being rude or otherwise negatively impacting a TF for others involved, they deserve a kick as well... whether it is Mission 2 or 23! It has little to do with the leader, and everything to do with the behavior of the person in question. Not seeing that is a failure to take responsibility. Yes, this is a game, but being a jerk during a TF or failing to contribute means other people will have less fun while someone is gallivanting.

Having been on a couple Zombie Man Lambdas, and having seen him kick people who emote through the cutscene, I gotta say I like it. I like that he warns the league not to do it and then follows through when someone does it anyway. He's not srs bsns about it, doesn't make a scene, just kicks.

I get a lot of lag in the collection phase and I die a lot as a result. I get frustrated as hell seeing someone dancing in the gate way when I am on my way back from the hospital and there are 7/10 and 5/10 grenades and acids collected. Kicking them seems like no great loss.

This is cut from my post titled TOP TEN THINGS NOT TO DO DURING A TRIAL..

2: PHOTOBOMBING IS FOR NINNIES
Another thing, Let’s not sit back and not help with the lab and warehouse, and instead get ready to photo bomb the Cut Scene. Look, that stuff is funny the first time. But, you know, if you can’t manage to not agro the AV and his mob, upsetting the opportunity to buff up again before the first GO, then, please stop. Again, think of the Desks. *To be clear: If you are a running back from the hospital, in a hurried attempt to get back into the fight, and just happen to get in the Cut Scene, you are good, it is not an issue. If you are found to be doing a dance emote, or the Praetorian Protest emote and have a specific Battlecry, for just the right part of Maruaders' speach, then yes Virginia, you are a NINNIE*

If you are warned by the leader to not do it and you do it, then you should not be suprised by the result. If I had a trial of friends, sure I will cutscene bomb, but with a PuG of strangers, I wouldn't do it.

I have a two strike rule..if im leading and u do it once...ok..np its fun...but ill warn them..see them do it again..auto kick.

I'm sorry but i don't see why people should work hard for some ****** to dance or something in the cut scene...twice. especially if we're struggling.

Lol.

At first I thought the thread was about spamming macros during cutscenes, which is a fair past time imo.

Me and my friends usually call a vote to kick the people who **** around in the LAM cutscene. If the majority votes "yes", well, too bad.
I wouldn't mind it otherwise, but I have personally failed the trial at least two times because of it. The downtime between trials is annoying enough.

We've received a couple of angry tells because of this approach, but my friends aren't SRS enough to care...

As long as things are running smoothly, I don't let it get to me. If I'm not leading and the leader requests that the league not do something then I think it's only right to do as asked out of respect for the person that is taking the time to organize and run the league.

That said, it can sometimes go too far. I'm not a big fan of a micromanaging league leader. As long as everyone knows their roles and things get done I don't think someone should be screaming out commands every spawn, which some leaders will do. To me it's just as annoying as someone spamming gibberish or cut scene bombing. There is a fine line of being a "good leader" and being an annoying micromanaging twit. The key is someone who let's the league know how a run will go (what method) and what's expected of everyone and take the time to point out what is accepted and what isn't. Of course I'm not talking about Master runs, thats a whole other ball of wax.

Now personally when I run a league or TF I try to get all the managing out of the way from the start and answer any questions/concerns before we get started, and I'll tend to not do a lot of talking except for those important few points in the process or if someone is straying off the path too much. But that said, if I request that we do a certain thing as in regroup at point A, I do expect everyone to do that. But I always try to be fair and polite, even when I need to be stern. I almost never kick anyone though, because I usually communicate what I expect from the beginning and try to make the run as carefree and fun as possible. When I run all controller TFs or leagues I have 4 simple rules that I always give out right before we start: 1. Have Fun 2. No Drama 3. Work as a team; no lone wolves and 4. Have Fun!