Cut Scene Bombing
The Lambda cutscene is a little different because breaking into can lead to failing the Trial - either from Marauder chasing the person out the gate, or from too many people going to stand there instead of helping collect the Pacs and Acids.
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Still doesn't result in the need to kick them IF THEY DIDN'T FAIL THE TRIAL.
I know alot folks will kick you if you're dance in the cutscence in Lambda because the AV has left the zone chasing folks or aggros on pets outside. Sorry after dying a few times to get those lame temps to have the trial fail because some ***** has to dance in the cutscene? Yeah it's an auto kick.
In most TFs, who cares? It may cause a wipe but if it's not an MoRun, you can re form and finish the TFs.
So, you would kick them after the trial has ended - understandable.
But if they didn't fail the trial by cut-scene bombing, you would still kick them?
I wouldn't kick them. Make fun of them/try to make them feel dumb, sure.
Dancing in that cutscene is just so passe now.
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Some people are too serious. If I get a SUPER SRS person leading a raid I will definitively dance in the cutscene.
The first time I saw someone dancing in the Lambda Trial cutscene, my thoughts were "Why were you out there dancing instead of in here helping gather temp powers?" That's still pretty much my attitude toward it. I don't know if I'd kick someone for it, but it does warrant at least an annoyed glare at their character.
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Some people are too serious. If I get a SUPER SRS person leading a raid I will definitively dance in the cutscene.
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Originally Posted by War-Nugget
Trials are just bigger task forces, and kicking someone for hopping in the cutscene is just you being a jerk. Plain and simple.
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I'd even kick you if you were on an RP team that I was leading, and if the rest of the [SUPER SRS] team seemed agitated by you. A good team leader keeps the team fun for everybody. Except War-Nugget lol.
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It depends on the situation - for example, if there are, say, 9 chambers done, 8 crates done, and 5 minutes left on the clock, and on the way back from the hospital you pass someone danicng at the gate, they'd just get a warning - but if there are, say, 5 chambers done, 3 crates done, and 1 minute left on the clock, then they'd be kicked at once.
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Agreed.
I've "threatened" to kick people if they cutscene bomb, but that was me being entirely not-serious. Said fans of cutscene bombings then became serious and thought I was being serious, and..
Entirely too much serious business going on everywhere.
But seriously. Force me to watch your offensively ugly costume during a cutscene? That's a kick.
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Some people are too serious. If I get a SUPER SRS person leading a raid I will definitively dance in the cutscene.
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I do kick, and have kicked, but only after warning them. [And I don't kick if they simply got caught in the cutscene running back from the hospital. Nor do I kick for spamming binds off-camera.]
(I bet you a million INF someone will /nerdrage over that statement completely ignoring the fact that I warn them first.)
I started warning the league right before we started. But then they claimed they didn't see it. Yeah, right. They saw which team was supposed to go into which lab/storehouse, but they didn't see the no-bombing warning. OK. Pretty selective instruction reading there.
In addition to warning them not to cutscene bomb, I say "first team done help the second". And each time I've kicked, there was plenty of time to help the other team... it wasn't like the other team was working on their last cache. I know I had time to jump into the other map and work on a target. But actually helping out is not the cutscene bomber's style. They want to just stand around while others work so they can showboat.
So if anyone says, "I didn't see the no-cutscene-bombing warning." Then did they also miss "Help the other team!"? That's *very* selective sight there.
So to avoid the "I didn't see the warning" lame excuse, I now recruit, "Forming a Lambda. PST. All ATs. RWZ2. No cutscene bombing." If anyone thinks I'm "too SRS" (anarchists are lulzy that way), they can simply not apply. And if they do apply and bomb, they get kicked.
Speaking of anarchists who have problems with social skills and getting along with the conventions of the league leader who was kind enough to invite them and organize their play-time: One time when I began the Lambda telling folks not to cutscene bomb, one player was all like, "Hey, why you no fun? This isn't srs bizness. this is supposed to be fun!"
OK, first of all, if this is suppose to be 'fun', why the heck are you starting an argument in an aggressive and ignorant matter? Some people like to have fun without cutscene bombing and are having fun without it. Some people are farming Emp Merits and don't want to spend another second in their thirty-fifth Lambda that week. So instead of simply asking 'why', we get that aggressive whine couched as a supposedly innocent question.
So I explained why: Spend time helping the other team and not showboating. Don't risk aggroing Marauder early. AVs have higher perception especially with the Orbs around.
So he continued the aggressive questioning.
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For someone who's main goal was fun, he was picking a fight over the ability to act silly. I guess acting silly is SRS BZNZ!
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If the raid is failing, and you're out there dancing--you get kicked.
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I've considered doing it myself, but thought better of it. I was on the way back from the hospital, the temps were at 10/9 w/ over 5 mins on the clock. I knew it was pointless to go into the labs, but I decided to wait by the doors instead of in the cutscene area. I also thought it was pretty funny the first time I saw it. Now it feels kinda tired already.
If the raid is failing, and you're out there dancing--you get kicked.
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I get frustrated, and would like to kick them, but to be honest, if it caused a fail, all I'm doing is saving them time.
If it didn't cause a fail, I come off like a jerk [not that I really care about that].
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I do kick, and have kicked, but only after warning them. [And I don't kick if they simply got caught in the cutscene running back from the hospital. Nor do I kick for spamming binds off-camera.]
So I explained why: Spend time helping the other team and not showboating. Don't risk aggroing Marauder early. AVs have higher perception especially with the Orbs around. |
Although, I don't believe your returning from hospital rule is valid. If by chance I got caught entering, I could quickly hit a bind to do the "talk to the hand" emote. So you would kick me for emoting, although I was mistakenly caught. You may aswell kick everybody in the cutscene if you have a rule stating that you do not accept cutscene bombing.
Uhuh. You are so hilarious.
Do I bomb?
Yes, but not every freaking time. If both teams are at 9 crates - I have returned from hospital and I happen to have acids, I usually wait by the acid portals and will happen to be caught in the cutscene.
Do I emote?
Possibly, it is usually the emote I have tied to a key. For example - the talk to the hand emote which is quite fun to use on STFs when Sands spawns in the first mission.
You would kick me for being in the cutscene :-P
No hard feelings, but at this point I'd kick you just to take a screenshot of me kicking you for dancing in a cut-scene lol.
(Edit: I actually LOL'd while re-reading my post. You're right! I AM hilarious!)
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I generally don't kick people for cut scene bombing unless they aggro Marauder or their temp team was really struggling. However, I do add a comment to their player notes to remind me not to invite them to leagues in the future.
Cut scene bombing is not particularly amusing (it was funny at first, now it's just cliche) but more importantly it's a case of putting yourself before the league. By cut scene bombing they are running a very real risk of causing the trial to fail. If that happens then they have just wasted a bunch of time for 7-15 other people and for what? So that they can do a badly overplayed joke. I'm sorry, but if they have that little regard for other people's time I don't particularly want to team with them.
I would, have, will again, kick people for doing this. Other night on Virtue, an MM jumped into the cut scene, after spending most of the collection phase dead. He jumped in and started spammed some huge stupid bind.
When I commented on this, he said he was only Roleplaying. Clearly playing the role of a selfish, unhelpful idiot who does not want to assist his team.
As to the question, would you kick someone right before the end? Totally, after making sure they use their temp powers.
Never said that. Like others have said, it's situational.
No hard feelings, but at this point I'd kick you just to take a screenshot of me kicking you for dancing in a cut-scene lol. (Edit: I actually LOL'd while re-reading my post. You're right! I AM hilarious!) |
"Actually, yes, you'd get kicked even if you made the mission more likely to fail (but it didn't)." This states otherwise..
As long as you state that you will kick it is fine. I am mainly talking about people who don't warn before they kick, much like those who kick people before TFs end. That is just the leader being a jerk.
First, I warn everyone at the beginning of the trial. I don't think I should have to, considering how long the trial has been out, but I do it.
Regardless of how much time is left on the clock, what everyone else in the league sees is someone who was not making every effort possible toward the success of that particular trial run. I understand that sometimes you are coming back from the hospital and get caught in the cut scene so you do an emote bind. Or "that last grenade is just moments away from being obtained, why not just pose at the door instead of getting caught by the cut scene mid-jump into the courtyard." The fact is: the leader formed the trial, if he wants to kick you for whatever reason, he can.
So I say: form your own trial! I was even on one where the leader said, at the beginning: "Hey all, if the grenade hunt is going well, I wish to get a screenshot of me in the cut scene." Nobody argued because, after all, he formed the league, no one could kick him, and he was being reasonable about it. So I say form your own if you don't want to be kicked, haha!
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As long as you state that you will kick it is fine. I am mainly talking about people who don't warn before they kick, much like those who kick people before TFs end. That is just the leader being a jerk.
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I give out the warning not to do it when I'm leading a league.
I have no problem with doing so. You don't like it? Form your own league.
I don't lead leagues all that often anymore, but that's the way it is. If you're dancing, you're not helping the other team with temp powers, which means you are there, actively playing the game, and actively failing to do your share.
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I definitely know this thread has popped up before, and yet I feel the need to make it again. Especially because quite afew people on facebook all claim they would boot people if they saw someone in a cutscene.
I really just want to know from the forums what they would do -
A)Would you kick people for hopping in the cutscene while Marauder is talking?
B)Would you kick people right before the end of a TF?
Trials are just bigger task forces, and kicking someone for hopping in the cutscene is just you being a jerk. Plain and simple.