No Prolif Protest

A lot of key powers for some Control sets aren't affected by Domination; for example, Ice Slick, Arctic Air, Volcanic Gasses, Earthquake, Synaptic Overload (only on the initial target), Static Field and Conductive Aura. I see no problem with Illusion Control as it is. Also, there are other things that could constitute low-hanging fruit, particularly weapon- or martial art-based Assault sets.

As someone who only plays Dominators (and very very rarely I'll roll up a Controller), I'm a bit disappointed with this. I've tried to like other ATs but I just can't get into them and I've tried quite a lot of different sets. I guess I like to be able to attack things whilst they're standing around hopeless, everything else to me is either too stressful, too squishy, doesn't have control or can't fight at range; yes, Dominators are squishy too but at least they have control to protect themselves with. I just don't enjoy other ATs much.

Instead Doms are getting hints of "exciting things to come". It's not as if all the other ATs are going to be shelved after i21 - we know Titanic Weapons won't be in i21 and will instead come after it. So, effectively melee ATs like Scrappers and Brutes are getting four new shinies to play with, Defenders and Corruptors with three, etc. Dominators get X amount, later than everything else.

What could the "exciting" thing be? Well if it was a Control set then wouldn't they also have said something about Controllers too? I very much doubt that they'll give us a primary without giving it to Controllers too.

Not going to quit or anything because that would be silly, and I enjoy the game but when I reroll my Fire/Fire and Plant/Thorns Doms for the new early game content I'll be a bit sad that everyone else will have new shinies to play with. Of course, I could make something from another AT but it would only end up getting deleted along with all the others I've tried to play in the past.


/tl;dr - Disappointed but will get over it.

Oh, and Devs hate Doms!

Everybody else pretty much has a pile of sets yet to be proliferated. Except Doms, I think all they're missing is Illusion. Dominator Secondaries may be pieced together from other powersets, but I am thinking the reason Doms didn't get any proliferation is because as was mentioned elsewhere. the Animation team has had their time monopolized by non-proliferation based activities.

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Originally Posted by reiella Until I see something that states to the contrary, going to assume VK is right .

I always thought illusion was fun, but it was even very redundant as a controller primary. Two versions of invis that people don't even want or take most of the time.

I also feel this way about Grav Controll...people wanting Dimention shift removed for Doms when dimension shift is signature to that set...even though it's annoying as heck.

But why should the dominator version of these powers be better than the controller powers because people want them proliferated?

Group Invis is no more desirable on a controller as it is a Dom, and neither is dimension shift.

And offering the blast and melee of the assault sets, wouldn't you think that for a moment that there would be little to no reason to play a controller other than wanting a support/debuff secondary.

I guess Im saying that what people want is the concept of an uber toon by removing powers from the controller set that they don't like when porting it to a DOM.

Also...half or more than half of the doms domination won't even work for illusion. At least Dimension shift works with domination.

[QUOTE=DarkCurrent;3729132]I'm launching an official protest of the I21 powerset proliferation.[QUOTE]

I totally agree with the protest...I'm with you! On the count of three, we are going to uninstall CoX form our systems until Doms get some new hotness.
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Wait, can I have your stuff first before we do this?

Chill son.


They said they had something special planned for doms. We have too many already, go venture out into other AT's!

I'm fine with waiting a bit, but I REALLY hope that the Dark/Dark blaster sets are being used to test out powers for a Dark/Dark Dom set... I've been wishing for a Dark Dom since CoV beta began. I want Fearsome Stare dang it! A Terrify attack without the dmg attached to it wouldn't trigger the alpha in my teeth, and is a fundamentally better CONTROL power because of it. And it's totally thematically appropriate for a VILLAIN/ROGUE/VIGILANTE. They SHOULD be quaking in their boots! ;-)

The only thing this "protest" is missing is someone stating that it's a 'slap in the face' to Dominators.

How exactly is this Protest working anyways?

Do you protest it by not playing any doms now or after i21?

By only playing doms?

By holding up cute little signs, that the masses ignore, except for that one sign that has someone think, "Oh. How cute."

I saw someone compared blasters to doms as far as power combination choices. Technically blasters currently have less choice then doms. Doms currently have 63 combinations available, while blasters only have 60 combinations.

When you look at it from that angle Masterminds should be b**ching the most because they currently only have 48 choices and after the proliferation they will have a whopping 54 combinations.

I don't really care, I don't want any of the remaining ****** powersets ported to Doms. If they're working on new powersets, then I think it's well worth the wait.

In hindsight they never should have grouped set proliferations into single releases together, because that leads to situations exactly like this where if/when one AT doesn't have a set proliferated people get bitchy.

They should have proliferated sets piecemeal (one or two set ported to ArchetypeA in one patch, then one set for ArchetypeB and a set for ArchetypeC next patch, etc. etc.). I suppose that would have been problematic to fit into their internal schedule though.

@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too

If the post I21 set is Dark/Dark, what will everyone play?

I tend to dislike related sets like dark/dark or fire/fire, so I definitely would not make dark/dark.

I would definitely make fire control/dark assault, as well as dark control/energy assault.

I might make earth/dark as well, and maybe dark/fire, but I dont think ill have enough slots on my server, so might have to pass on the two "maybes" ... Too bad.

Lewis