Paragon Points Clarification
400........$5.00......................Complete Magic Costume Set (from the Magic Pack)
40..........$0.50......................Pop Dance Emote (From the Party Pack) 80..........$1.00......................Smoke Bomb Costume Change Emote (From the Martial Arts Pack) |
So, essentially, VIPs get like 40% of a Super Booster for FREE every month. Which is pretty okay (that is based off of the assumption that buying the WHOLE of the Magic SB would be like 970 PPs: 400 for costumes, 200 for emotes (5x40PPs), 320 for CCEs (4x80PPs) and a wild guess of 50PPs for Mystic Fortune). Of course, that math is suspect because the emotes and CCEs might also be sold in a bundle, and thus reduce the overall points.
I was cautiously optimistic about what 400PPs would buy, and this certainly helps.
A few questions remain, though:
- How many PPs will a powerset like Time Manipulation cost (Yes, I know VIPs get that particular one for free)?
- Will all powersets cost the same, i.e. will Titan Weapons be more or less than Time Manipulation?
- How much will a single power be from a Booster, like Ninja Run be?
This looks good so far.
1 question - The signature story arcs are they solo or team missions(both my wife and me will be subscribed so wont matter much)
1 comment - the respec prices could be lower that way you sell more. I can see alot of newer players using respces left and right at $10 they may not, at $5 I think you would sell more.
Hope you have lots of new stuff since i have all the other boosters and the like so far, I will need to spend my points somewhere.
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I really hope this is not the case. I personally am hoping for them to be around 200 points, although I imagine they will be 400.
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The problem is its easier to go down than up in regards to price. I think they'd be more apt to start high and frequently run discounts/sales than start lower and eventually go up (either in general or for future saleable items of the same price).
I hope there's going to be something in place, like what's illustrated in the example, of where certain costume pieces, auras, etc. might have come from originally so I don't accidentally re-buy them and waste points! I imagine with every costume piece, aura, costume change emote, etc. being sold in the in-game store it's going to be a rather long convoluted list and something that's difficult for someone to remember if they have or not. Right now, it's easy. I have them all. I purchased each and every booster pack. However, as time goes on the list grows and grows I hope it's going to be easy to determine if a particular piece was originally from a booster pack or not.
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I hope there's going to be something in place, like what's illustrated in the example, of where certain costume pieces, auras, etc. might have come from originally so I don't accidentally re-buy them and waste points! I imagine with every costume piece, aura, costume change emote, etc. being sold in the in-game store it's going to be a rather long convoluted list and something that's difficult for someone to remember if they have or not. Right now, it's easy. I have them all. I purchased each and every booster pack. However, as time goes on the list grows and grows I hope it's going to be easy to determine if a particular piece was originally from a booster pack or not.
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I know this is water under the bridge, but with the new system coming online, I want to once again attempt to make the argument for more rational pricing for this one feature. Currently, this feature is implemented so that people can move a character to a new server to be with friends or to move an old toon people do not want to delete to a less used server to make room on their "primary" server for a new character. For that use, the price point listed is reasonable (I think high, but reasonable).
However, this could be so much more. Since it feels like cross-server teaming is Sadly a long way off (not even on a production schedule?), this could be used to solve the primary reason for cross-server teaming. Maybe I am near unique, but I know several of my friends have the same situation. Characters strewn across 3, 4, or sometimes more servers. Sometimes I log-in and really want to play character X on server P, but my friends want to play on server G. Sometimes I log-in just to fool around and wait to see what is going on; I may see a team forming in one of my globals to run a TF/trial on server P, but I really want to do that TF/trial with a character on server G. Maybe I have joined a team for a TF on server L, but the team really wants buff/debuff, while I would love to switch to one of my buff/debuff toons, I do not have any on server L. If you make server transfers cost 10 bucks, I will never buy one. If you make server transfers cost 5 bucks, I may buy one or two a year. If you make server transfers cost 1 dollar, I will buy 1 every 6 weeks or so. If you make server transfers cost $0.50, I will buy 4 or 5 a month. If you make server transfers cost $0.25, I will use them like candy, especially if that 25 cents is 20 PPs. I think more money can be made at the lower price point, on top of more convenience for the players. It looks like a win-win to me. |
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Tempest Master: Defender; Puppy: Master Mind; Dr Hypochondria: Controller; RubberCop: Tanker; Gleipnir: Scrapper; Viridian Widow: Widow; Mr Atlantis: Blaster; Storm Lord: Dominator; Quetzacouatl: - Peacebringer; DogStar: Corruptor; Lightning Strikes: Stalker; Lord of Brass: Brute; Mr. Cygnus X-1: Warshade
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
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My first 50 of each AT on Triumph:
Tempest Master: Defender; Puppy: Master Mind; Dr Hypochondria: Controller; RubberCop: Tanker; Gleipnir: Scrapper; Viridian Widow: Widow; Mr Atlantis: Blaster; Storm Lord: Dominator; Quetzacouatl: - Peacebringer; DogStar: Corruptor; Lightning Strikes: Stalker; Lord of Brass: Brute; Mr. Cygnus X-1: Warshade
Here is one main reason that I don't feel this would work well - name conflicts. You move over to run that trial and someone has your name, you have to change your name. You transfer back, and the new name isn't on your old server? You end up keeping the new name. Or transfer over, and while you are gone, someone creates a character with your old name? When you go to move back, you now have to come up with a new name. A couple of bouts of that, and the willingness to hop servers is going to come to a screeching halt for most players.
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This is doubtful, they've said time and time again that you keep what you've bought.
The Incarnate system came with Going Rogue, from what I understand. Under this logic anyone who has Going Rogue attached to their account will be able to do the Incarnate content, even if you drop down to Premium. |
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
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Thank you for that post Ghost Falcon. That was a nice informative list. Now I have a solid feel for where you are going to aim prices in the store and what a Paragon Point is worth.
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My thoughts are that in order for them to make money on this store at these prices they will need an etreme amount of content I.E fluff and stuff. I am all for that cause we need more chest emblems.
While you're being generous with pricing information, a friend of mine who's planning on picking up a free subscription wants to know how much it would cost a VIP account to unlock Mastermind or Controller access?
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400........$5.00......................Complete Magic Costume Set (from the Magic Pack) |
Interesting. This says, to me, that I am now paying $10/month for my VIP Sub, and $5/month for 400 PP. I think that's a pretty good way to look at it.
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Since one of the items Ghost Falcon listed was $5/400PP for the entire Magic Pack costume set, I think it's a fair bet that future costume sets will be available for bundled purchase. Given that individual costume pieces seem to be priced anywhere from $0.25 to $1.25, and given that, for instance, the Steampunk Booster came with more than 27 different costume pieces (off the top of my head, not including duplicates between male/huge), the bundle is an excellent deal.
given that, for instance, the Steampunk Booster came with more than 27 different costume pieces ... the bundle is an excellent deal.
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It's a good system both ways--the people who want to buy everything get a bundle, and the people who don't get to pick out exactly what they want.
Main Hero: Chad Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1396 Badges
Main Villain: Evil Gulzow-Man (Victory) 50, 1193 Badges
Mission Architect arcs: Doctor Brainstorm's An Experiment Gone Awry, Arc ID 2093
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Yes exactly. And upon reflection, the Steampunk Pack came with something more like 33 pieces or more, since I forgot auras, weapons, and back details. Actually I keep randomly thinking of other pieces I forgot to count, so it may be in the range of 40 or more. Granted, other boosters may not have contained as many... ~14 in the cyborg pack? But even still if you want all the pieces, the bundles will cost less than a la cart.
Agreed, this works out well for everyone.
I've worked it out between the Monthly Signature Story ($5), the 400 Paragon Points ($5), and my Yearly Subscription rate ($11.95/mo) that my monthly subscription fee basically comes down to 1.95 a month once Freedom hits the live servers! Not counting the Monthly Signature Story (since it is included with VIP after all) that's still a craaaaaaaaazy $6.95/mo!
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I certainly think the prices, so far look well thought out. Im intrigued as to how the prices will be adjusted to Euros and Pounds Sterling though.